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Last Argument of Kings by Joe Abercrombie

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 06:07 PM

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Last Argument of Kings is the third and concluding volume of The First Law Trilogy, following on from The Blade Itself and Before They Are Hanged. Those who have not read the first two volumes may wish to skip the plot summary as it does contain spoilers of events in those books.

In the frozen wastes of Angland, the army of the Union and its allies continues to wage war against Bethod and his forces. The Gurkish, having retaken Dagoska, now develop new and more bold plans to continue to wage war against the Union from the south. And, having failed in their quest to the far side of the world, Bayaz and his companions return to the city of Adua to make new preperations for the conflicts to come. But in this struggle it becomes clear that different factions are scheming for power, that those who are allies one day may be bitter foes the next, and that the price of victory may be far too high...

The First Law has attracted a great deal of praise since the publication of The Blade Itself a little under two years ago. Abercrombie's clear style delivered an apparently 'straightforward' fantasy tale with some interesting ruthless edges to it. Before They Are Hanged forced the reader to revise a lot of what they thought they knew whilst putting several key twists into the story that were unexpected. Last Argument of Kings delivers exactly what this trilogy needed: a no-holds-barred war story in which secrets are exposed, mysteries are explained and the author resolutely refuses to pull any punches. Those expecting a gloriously happy, neat ending to this trilogy best look elsewhere.

Instead, we get huge battle sequences, including one that threatens to displace the supremacy of Steven Erikson's siege of Capustan from Memories of Ice as the greatest epic fantasy battle this century. We get more intricate, devious politics. We get more torture, courtesy of our friend Glokta (whose character arc remains the most vivid and engrossing of the series). The deepening of the character of Bayaz, who first turned up looking like a jovial Belgarath-style wizard and is now revealed to have a lot more going on to him than just that, is also tremendously satisfying. To those who have taken part in debate on various fan forums some plot elements may emerge as rather predictable, at least until Abercrombie pulls the rug out from under your feet and, just for giggles, does it again a few chapters later. Best of all is the way quite small storyline elements from the previous two books are revisited and minor charaters of no great significance are now revealed to have their own important roles to play.

The ending is superb, particularly the tremendously satisfying epilogue and the final scene. Enough loose ends are left that Abercrombie could revisit the storyline in future books or series, but not to the extent that it is a necessity. Life goes on, albeit in a manner which some characters (and perhaps some readers) find criminally unfair. We also get enough clues laid about other, hitherto undeveloped parts of the world such as Styria that the news that the author's next novel, Best Served Cold, will be set there is most welcome. However, for the time being at least, we must bid a fond farewell to Superior Glokta, the redoubtable Jezal, the secretive Bayaz, the proud Ardee, the solid Colonel West and, of course, the Bloody-Nine. I look forward to the day when we catch up with them and their adventures once more.

Last Argument of Kings (****½) is a more than worthy conclusion to this trilogy. The novel will be published by Gollancz in the UK on 20 March 2008 in hardcover and trade paperback and by Pyr Books in the USA in September 2008.

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 07:25 PM

Thanks for the review, Wert! It contains a lot of good news... Now I'm really looking forward to March! ;)
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Posted 02 December 2007 - 09:42 PM

I really liked The Blade Itself, I really loved Before They are Hanged and I really want The Last Argument of Kings.

Now. ;)
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:30 PM

Pre-ordered. Months ago.


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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:53 PM

So, the book's out now and getting acclaim like nobody's business. Anyone else read it yet?
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:58 PM

Gonna get it this Saturday :) along with the 2nd part, so will be reading it soon.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 01:43 AM

It'll be here by thursday, I ordered it from the UK and I can't wait.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 08:13 AM

Man, it was fuckin' great. I just sat up all night to finish it and is still amazed of its utter coolness.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:28 AM

Getting to the last 50-100 pages now. It's been frickin' awesome so far. Will discuss more indepth when I finish. Don't want to stumble upon any spoilers.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 05:10 PM

bought this 3 for 2 on saturday. gotta love waterstones :)


its pretty good. A little rushed i think, in how the storylines tie up, but enjoyable. I'd like to see more about various characters, but of course that's entirely up to the author.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 06:30 PM

AHHHHHH


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Posted 19 March 2008 - 10:03 AM

one more day :) patience, patience...
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 03:35 PM

drinksinbars;277163 said:

one more day :o patience, patience...


haha - it turned up for another guy in the office from amazon and i have started reading it already.

awesome :D
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 02:07 PM

This was on my list of must reads and I have to say I was disappointed with it. I found it cliche. The only reason that it wasn't predictable was I thought it wouldn't end up being so cliche. In the end people were in the positions I would expect for a never ending series where the next is the same as the last. Lots of people died but in ways that had no effect on anything other than to make me morn that nothing interesting would come of the character and that something that fleshed out the world was gone. Spoilers!! None of the characters seem to grow. They did as they always did with no examination of the feelings the events were putting them through. At the end I found that there would be another book, I can't say it's one I plan on buying.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:13 PM

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This was on my list of must reads and I have to say I was disappointed with it. I found it cliche. The only reason that it wasn't predictable was I thought it wouldn't end up being so cliche. In the end people were in the positions I would expect for a never ending series where the next is the same as the last. Lots of people died but in ways that had no effect on anything other than to make me morn that nothing interesting would come of the character and that something that fleshed out the world was gone. Spoilers!! None of the characters seem to grow. They did as they always did with no examination of the feelings the events were putting them through. At the end I found that there would be another book, I can't say it's one I plan on buying.


I must say I just plain disagree with this. I very much dislike the use of cliches, and I did not find tLAoK to be cliched. In fact, I found him to move away from many of them, turning what at first seemed to be a cliche, into something else entirely.

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 09:31 PM

Miar;284437 said:

At the end I found that there would be another book, I can't say it's one I plan on buying.


What other book? It's a completed trilogy :confused:

If you mean Best Served Cold, it's set in the same world but in a totally different location with totally different characters many years later.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 03:57 AM

Sorry about the spoiler that crept in there my bad. Yes there were some twists in there but they all seemed to be just thrown in just for the sake of a twist. Hey here are some dancing nuns or whatever. They all had the capacity to be good twists but they were too underdeveloped for my taste and made the characters feel one dimensional. None of the twists made any real changes too the story line either. There's one I could point to that I could see a case for but that one seemed like it was coming. When it did I felt like it was a wimp out.

Ends with 3.. hmm wonder where I got the impression there would be another..
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:23 PM

I have to agree, I was very disappointed with the book.

It just left me with a sense of being.....unfulfilled. There was potential there, but it didnt come close to realising it.

The characters we thought were evolving, growin gin the earlier books, well it turns out they are still whiny self-pitying idiots at the end of book three. Apart from Jezel in a very superficial way, none of the characters sees life any differently at the end of book three than they did in book one.

And I must have missed this battle scene that compared with Capustan, was I at the toilet for it or something?
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 06:37 PM

I loved Last Arument of Kings, it was a great finale to a great trilogy. I was completely satisfied with the ending: the loose threads were neatly tied up but still enough room was left for speculation (or a sequel).

I didn't really notice any "cliches" in the book, apart from the ones Abercrombie uses on purpose, wrapped in fine irony. I loved the characters, they were well done and so real, that I kept thinking - hey, I know these people, I live with those Jezals and Wests and Ardees every day. That most deaths were quite random and seemingly meaningles - with that I agree, but in real life, most deaths are random and meaningles, so for me it was just something that gave the book even more realistic touch.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:38 AM

I thought it was a good book. The characters are second to none, and the action scenes are cool. I like the way almost everyone in the hole book is a baddie. And somehow you still like the baddies.

Black Dow is my favourite of the whole trilogy.

And the final chapter had me biting my nails wondering what was gonna happen.
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