[Abyss]

Actually, the PoH was a means to become a god, ie: 'ascend' from 'mere' shapeshifter to god of them.

And the exact definition of ascension is so wide open and the term used, in the books, so many different ways, that one can't really apply any hard/fast rule to clarify. My theory runs that it simply means to move beyond the basic power level of your race/type/whatever. So while a soletaken is an ascendant, relative to any normal human, it could 'ascend' to be d'ivers, or to be a god a la Trake, or both.

- Abyss, likes to 'use' quotation 'marks', whenever 'possible'.

[Monoch Ochem]

Oh yeah...thanks 'Byss.

The soletaken godhood thing must be pretty powerful if they're willing to destroy each other for it. The Jheck seemed to think that by reuniting themselces with their god, they's had been able to extinguish even the Edur.

[pat5150]

Back to the topic, it doesn't seem that the CG will be part of RG. At least, they're not past of the Dramatis Personae.

There is a mention of exactly where Iron Bars and the rest of the gang were dropped, which was a bit surprising. It's not a spoiler, as I guess it's kind of an indication of where ICE might be going with RotCG, but I will not reveal that location. Unless you guys really want to know. As I said, it's not a big secret, not even a little!

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

[Dark Mac]

Monoch Ochem;166742 said:

Didn't Kilava kill her entire clan the very night that the painting was done or something? I seem to recall having an impression that she wasn't even aware of the painting at the time. Think it was in HoC where they elaborated on this from the Whirlwind goddess' recollections and thoughts towards the end....when she was recounting Onrack's betrayal.

Nah, Kilava came in and had sex with Onrack before the slaughtering began, IIRC.

[buddhacat]

pat5150;166801 said:

Back to the topic, it doesn't seem that the CG will be part of RG. At least, they're not past of the Dramatis Personae.

There is a mention of exactly where Iron Bars and the rest of the gang were dropped, which was a bit surprising. It's not a spoiler, as I guess it's kind of an indication of where ICE might be going with RotCG, but I will not reveal that location. Unless you guys really want to know. As I said, it's not a big secret, not even a little!

BLAM!

Had to be done.

[Dolorous Menhir]

How about we stick with a convention:

"CG" for Crippled/Chained God.

"CGrd" for Crimson Guard.

Because it gets a bit confusing when you use "CG" for both.

[Brys Beddict]

Onrack was a semi-Bonecaster, no? If so, he likely had some latent power that allowed him to make Kilava immortal. Besides, it mentioned he truly loved her, and that passion getting paired up with some taboo painting could've caused her immortality. He painted her as he saw her, and likely always would see her, and those thoughts maybe had an effect.

Or you know, some EG we don't know decided to make her immortal cause Kilava is an important character.

[Set'alahd Crool]

Dark Mac;166805 said:

Nah, Kilava came in and had sex with Onrack before the slaughtering began, IIRC.

'fraid not. Onrack muses on whether or not it was the dried blood of her clan that flaked off of Kilava's hands in the dark.


Dolorous, here here. The use of CG and CGrd will save a few drunken headaches, methinks.

[BridgeBurner]

Dolorous Menhir;166808 said:

How about we stick with a convention:

"CG" for Crippled/Chained God.

"CGrd" for Crimson Guard.

Because it gets a bit confusing when you use "CG" for both.

Yes. Or CG for Crippled God, and 'Crimson Guard' being typed out fully, since they are a minor entity, plotwise.

This isn't sms or msn

[Illuyankas]

Hopefully we can get CG/CGrd as popular as AnasToc for the new Toc. Or SE could pick names that convert to anacronyms which aren't so similar.

[Tattooed Hand]

pat5150;166801 said:

Back to the topic, it doesn't seem that the CG will be part of RG. At least, they're not past of the Dramatis Personae.

There is a mention of exactly where Iron Bars and the rest of the gang were dropped, which was a bit surprising. It's not a spoiler, as I guess it's kind of an indication of where ICE might be going with RotCG, but I will not reveal that location. Unless you guys really want to know. As I said, it's not a big secret, not even a little!

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

I want to know.

[tiam]

Quon Tali. Has to be. Iron Bars wouldnt really g back to Assail would he? Hed go home after likely being called by Kazz. In fact it sets it self up quite nicely for ICE novel. The Wickan Pogrom and the CGRD coming home

[pat5150]

Just let me know how the spoiler function can be activated and I'll tell you guys. Since it's not a "true" spoiler, I guess no harm will come of my disclosure.

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

[Werthead]

[spoiler ]David Eddings is writing the next MBF book[/spoiler ]

Take away the spaces before the brackets and there you go!

Spoiler

David Eddings is writing the next MBF book

[pat5150]

Okay,

So for those who wanted to know where Shurq dropped off Iron Bars and the rest of the Crimson Guardsmen:

Spoiler

The eastern shores of Jacuruku

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

[Abyss]

brainzzzzzz....

- Abyss, le sigh.

[Lancelot]

OK, How the f@ck do you read the spoilers????????

[Aptorian]

Lancelot;167589 said:

OK, How the f@ck do you read the spoilers????????

You just mouse over the text. You know click at the start of the text and drag across the words.

[Lancelot]

AAAAh! The simplicity of it!!!

@apt - Many thanks.

[Veilside]

Aptorian;167597 said:

You just mouse over the text. You know click at the start of the text and drag across the words.

Or just press Ctrl A