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Posted 12 January 2007 - 04:52 PM

after finally giving in and reading another fantasy series other than Erikson look whats happened to me. I get given. The first 4 in the series are very good books. The fifth good. The sixth borderline.

And the seventh. after all tht i thought hed give a better less predicatble ending. Any one else have any thoughts?

Also there is a summary (dunno what there called. It explains everything in the books anyway) that is available. Should i buy it?

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:48 PM

Poor old Steven King. He's such a master of suspense that there was simply nothing he could do to live up to the massive expectation he'd created. I think that the ending we saw was the only one there could ever really have been, and it fits with the rest of the series: it's not nearly perfect. Lots of things don't turn out quite right, people die, really bad things happen that could have been averted. I don't know whether that was deliberate, but it makes the series quite different from others. In most other novels all sorts of improbable things happen so that the hero does eventually manage to save the day. In the Dark Tower, Roland is nowhere near becoming that perfect hero, but the elements are there, and we can see that he could develop that way.

Plus the general mythos is just incredible. The Dark Tower was pretty much the only series I've ever dreamed about, and the image is going to live in my head for a long time.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:52 PM

Yeah, The Dark Tower is something entirely original, and I am impressed in the way King has managed to write a series, which main-story is a long quest to a tower, as varied as few other books I have ever read. I enjoyed them all, more or less, and, even if the ending didn't make me dance with happiness, I saw the necessity in it. All in all, a series every reader of fantasy should read.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:09 PM

Overall it's a good series. I especially enjoy the way that he ended it - though the last book failed in terms of confrontations with the bad guys.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:02 PM

To be honest, I did not enjoy what I read of the Dark Tower series; I read The Gunslinger and The Drawing of the Three, but I failed three times to get into the third book.

Roland was a fascinating character, particularly in the first book for a certain incident, but he wasn't enough to make up for my dislike for the setting. I generally like my fantasy stories to have a consistent, well-structured other world, and King's Dark Tower world seemed (to me) to have a kind of "Alice in Wonderland" feel to it.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

That's fair - there was a feeling of going through the looking glass. It's a matter of taste, I suppose. Either you like it or don't. It wasn't a lack of ability on King's part that gave his world that quality though. It was a deliberate effort. The world, as they say, had moved on. You should try getting into it again though. Reading the first two books don't give you a good idea of how special the entire series is, IMHO.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

tiam;150663 said:

after finally giving in and reading another fantasy series other than Erikson look whats happened to me. I get given. The first 4 in the series are very good books. The fifth good. The sixth borderline.

And the seventh. after all tht i thought hed give a better less predicatble ending. Any one else have any thoughts?

Also there is a summary (dunno what there called. It explains everything in the books anyway) that is available. Should i buy it?

Thanks


You thought the last book was predictable? Then you sir are better at predicting than me. I had no idea how it was going to go down. As for the summary (actually there are 2 I think) I don't know if it's worth it to buy them. The most interesting thing in them is the explanation of how TDT ties in with the rest of King's work. I suggest flipping through them in the bookatore, if you get interested in what you see buy it. I don't think you'll want to own it though. I LOVE the Dark Tower and don't really want to own the companion books.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:52 PM

Quite liked it. I was somewhat irked by the way King tied in pretty much every book he's written since about 1975 to the series, but it was all such mad genius that i couldn't really hold it against him.

I think it's a worthwhile read. You don't need to MUST read any of the tie-ins (i've read most, not all), but when you do you see the sheer scope of what he created.

And i was satisfied with the ending.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 12:13 AM

I just hated the massive shark jump while being pulled by a shark of his Gigantic Mary Sue Of Epic Proportions.

If he'd cut out "SEE, I'M IN THE BOOK AND THAT DRUNK KILLED JAKE (did you know: that man died not long after (Bryan Smith. Nice way to drive in the sadism, King)!1!1!" faggotry, I'd've been able to stomach it.

I mean, I could've accepted them finding Salems Lot (the book). If there hadn't been a massive Mary Sue with King as all this magnificent fagtardery crap.
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:30 AM

Raymond Luxury Yacht;151298 said:

That's fair - there was a feeling of going through the looking glass. It's a matter of taste, I suppose. Either you like it or don't. It wasn't a lack of ability on King's part that gave his world that quality though. It was a deliberate effort. The world, as they say, had moved on. You should try getting into it again though. Reading the first two books don't give you a good idea of how special the entire series is, IMHO.


I sort of felt the same way, which was why I kept trying to read the Third Book. I probably will give it another go; it was just the feel of the world kind of annoyed me (I'm a fan of the kind of "realistic other world" type of fantasy that you see in Martin's series, for eample).

I'll admit that I read the final bit in the Seventh Book, and it is part of the reason why I'll probably re-try it. The prose at the end, the revelation is heartwrenchingly described, although perhaps an ending that was predicted.
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:37 AM

Just to clarify i really did enjoy these books. Seriosly till about the end of the Wolves of the Calla. Songs of Susannah was ok (probably the worst one really im sure wed all agree) but overall an excellent series. I dont read much fantasy (serioslyjust Erikson and now king) but his apperance in the book didnt bother that much at all. I also liked the happy ending in the other world with susannah and co. Dunno why it just fit.

Raymond Luxery yacht- In hindsight now i have no idea how i predicted it. It just seemed Rolands knowledge (not the right word at all really but instinct sort of thing. o who cares) was more than Ka and wasnt the touch. I simply knew hed done this many times before. I also knew hed do it again as the only reason the Tower would send him back is that he didnt do it worthy of Arthur Eld and that the cost was too great. what i felt (from around book 4 onwards) felt like paranoia till the characters started dying but wen i was right i was dissapointed having never been able to anticipate anything else in the entire series
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 02:32 PM

I did think that the end of WOLVES was absolutely brilliant.

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 05:35 PM

My favourite in the series was Wizard & Glass, the only one I reread. Ithink the appeal is down to it's self containment as an almost complete story whereas the first 3 books are like those frustrating tv series, where just as things get going you have to wait for the next episode.
The most disappointing thing about the last book for me wasn't the actual ending but the lack of a final confrontation between Roland and the man in black.
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