[Onos]

Just doing another reread of HoCs and something caught my attention more than other items.

Calm upon being freed whispers into Karsa's ear... "they will not leave you these enemies of mine. It seems shattering their bones was not enough." ...." I believe i must wait. Wait and see what comes of you, before i decide if i shall deliver unto you, warrior, my eternal peace". ...."I warn you, the desire to deliver it (peace) is very strong at the moment."

"the one named Karsa has been chosen. If i was to tell you even the little that i sense of his ultimate purpose, you would seek to kill him. But i tell you there would be no value in that, for the ones using him will simply select another. no. Watch this friend of yours. Guard him. There will come a time when he stands poised to change the world. And when that time comes, i shall be there. For i bring peace. When that moment arrives, cease guarding him".

Now, did other people pick up the significance of this? I hear people talking Karsa this and Karsa that, but at some point his future will be curtailed. What is the 'big thing' he will do (fight rhulad, or iccy or lead and army of TTT to kill all children) , and 2nd will Calm be able to stop him (i think yes) Anyway just thought that was a powerful paragraph... probably the best part of the long karsa opening save maybe finding the carved stone that tells of the fallen status of the Teblor. SE doesnt usually just through crap like that out there without any greater purpose. (though for all i know Karsa's story may not end in these 10 books) Anyone have any thoughts on any of this?

[Bl1nder]

Quite frankly I hope that Karsa would die from a broken leg , but anyway, we dont really know what his purpose is, yet it has something to do with the CG, because the 7 gods of toblakai did choose him, and them being unbound Imass serving the CG means they were following his orders...so...yes you see the picture

What is it with ppl havin the urge to post in 4 in the morning ?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I think we caught it. You're right, it's clearly a major bit of foreshadowing. Karsa has big things ahead of him, and I think the next time he meets Calm he will be better prepared to deal with the situation.

[Where is Dassem Ultor?]

It will be interesting to see whether Bairoth Delum fails against Calm, should Karsa and her meet again within the series.

[Thelomen Toblerone]

I think Karsa could hold his own against Calm now, depending on the negation of the magic of course- the Kendryllah demons, who, I would argue, Karsa could beat, seem to have given the other FA a good hiding, and this time Karsa won't be surprised or caught off guard.

[Onos]

Does Karsa's sword have special properties?? I didnt believe so.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Does being unbreakable, six feet long and holding the souls of two Teblor warriors count?

[Illuyankas]

Apart from being not only unbreakable, but even more unbreakabler then Imass swords? And housing two Teblor souls?

@DM: Sod.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Haha.

[Onos]

Well, un breakable seems a stretch... it is extremely hard, but is it the toughest thing on Wu? (i am sure there are lots of enchanted blades of that type) Ex would it shatter Rhulads sword? Dragnipur? etc Anyway unbreakable doesnt make you a much better swordsman

Do we have evidence of the 2 teblor doing anything in there or just that is where they live to talk to karsa?

I was more referring to someone saying the sword greatly improves his fighting. I didnt think his abilities were tied to the sword.

[Onos]

"Apart from being not only unbreakable, but even more unbreakabler then Imass swords?"

LOL How can something be more unbreakable than something else. Isnt it either breakable or unbreakable?

[polishgenius]

Onos;152133 said:

"Apart from being not only unbreakable, but even more unbreakabler then Imass swords?"

LOL How can something be more unbreakable than something else. Isnt it either breakable or unbreakable?

Well, T'lan Imass magic makes their swords unbreakable, but Karsa's sword went through them like some little twigs.

[Thelomen Toblerone]

Onos;152132 said:

Do we have evidence of the 2 teblor doing anything in there or just that is where they live to talk to karsa?

Since their intern/ment in the sword havent Bairoth and Delum lost the ability to speak to Karsa?

And the souls in the sword must confer some sort of special bonus or enhanced ability, otherwise, what's the point? Other than preventing Hood taking their souls, of course.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Delum & Gild lost the ability to talk to Karsa, yes, but I'm pretty sure there were still situations when the sword "communicated" in some way, seemed eager for battle or the like. And I think being unbreakable is a result of holding the two souls in the first place.

edit: oh, and Imass swords are not really unbreakable, there are examples of broken Imass weaponry in the books - not just those broken by Karsa.

[Aptorian]

Karsa sword isnt special in comparison to say Dragnipur and Rhulads Shattered Sword.

The two souls travelled into the flint and that was what made Karsa able to create such a large shard into to the form of the sword. In turn for aiding Karsa the souls where sparred the enevetable embrace of Hood and given the promise to deliver death upon a thousand victims through the wielding of Karsas hands. Thats the extent of the swords story... it doesnt have powers its just huge and speciallycrafted.

[polishgenius]

Aptorian;152356 said:

Karsa sword isnt special in comparison to say Dragnipur and Rhulads Shattered Sword.

The two souls travelled into the flint and that was what made Karsa able to create such a large shard into to the form of the sword. In turn for aiding Karsa the souls where sparred the enevetable embrace of Hood and given the promise to deliver death upon a thousand victims through the wielding of Karsas hands. Thats the extent of the swords story... it doesnt have powers its just huge and speciallycrafted.

As mentioned, it broke lesser invented swords, so it does have some power, even if it's just being less breakable than them.
Another thing is that I recall at least one person recognising him, or something, by the sword. Heboric says something when he sees it, and I'm not sure he's the only one. I get the feeling that there's some sort of prophecy or premonition or something floating about it.

[Onos]

Thanks Aptorian, that seems to fit with what i remember. It sounds more believable coming from you.

I am 300 pages into HoC right now so this time around i will keep an eye out for when Karsa goes to make the sword. (and about people making comments regarding karsa and the sword.

[Illuyankas]

I'm pretty sure that the Imass swords are unbreakable against anything but Elder warrens, and Karsa's has his friend's souls in for extra unbreakableness. So I think he could defend himself from Icarium with it.