[Gem Windcaster]

Yeah, it kinda pisses me off that Peter never does anything intelligent with his powers - he should make everyone fear him ffs! Or at least make them obey him, or something.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 08 October 2008 - 09:25 PM

[Trotts]

I dunno, its easy to point and say 'Season 1 was wai better!' I think Dave Chappelle even did a skit about it in the 3rd season. Its hard for a show to retain the suspense after characters and things have been introduced.

Dont get me wrong, I agree the show has lost some of its intensity, but I still love watching it every week.

In Hiro's defense, he made a vow to himself not to go back in time, because that causes too many problems. Furthermore, that whole message from his father was basically 'I trust you to use you judgement, Hiro" which almost right there would make him feel extra worse about going back. And the only other Hero he has any real relationship with is Adam.

Peter is still annoying of course, but I have a bad feeling about his usual whiny persona combined with trying to fight Sylar's hunger (for brainz!)






And okay...I really wanna see Ando get powers.

[RodeoRanch]

This week's episode was not good. It was bad. Terrible acting from future Peter and Claire. Yikes.

I enjoy Hiro and Ando. Sylar. Even Parkman.


But the story is a muddled mess with repeated themes and moments from that great first season. I want to love it but it's not happening for me. Bummer.

[Therion]

Well, I enjoyed it. While there are things that bug me - some of the acting, future catastrophe, Hiro's reversion to early S1 - there was some neat stuff there, subtle even, if the writers intended it that way (which they hopefully prove to have later on, right, RIGHT????).

For instance, did anybody notice that FutureSylar/Gabriel had a distinct HRG vibe to him - sure, he wore glasses before, but they appeared to be more like Noah's this time around. He has Mr Muggles (or a follow-up), and KidNoah seems to be too old to be his biological son, because the scene is only set 4 years in the future. I'd wager that Noah (the old one ) was a key figure in Sylar's overcoming his hunger, because that looks a lot like "hero worhsip" for me. Or maybe Sylar got a dose of Noah's personality via some as of yet unencountered power.

I also have a plausible explanation why FuturePeter's didn't heal his scar now: it seems to be analogous to the broken and scratched watch, which he refers to as a scar, a reminder of what the "hunger" can do (although connecting the hunger to the ability is a tad convenient).

Another theory: Mama Petrelli mentioned that someone was manipulating everyone behind the scenes. I'm wondering if this manipulation involves Parkman's father. In episode 2, when Mama Petrelli had her vision in the Company's prison, she saw one of the Niki-clones (Tracy or No. 3?), Adam, Maury Parkman as well as Sylar. Well, the clones are there, Adam's back, but what about Maury? With his powers, may he be the one putting a fake Linderman in Nathan's head (would make sense, wouldn't it)? I expect Matt Parkman's spirit walk to lead to some developments which may tie in with the overall arc.

But then, maybe the writers didn't think that far and will drop the ball .

- Therion, wants to believe.

[Werthead]

Heroes has become pretty dumb and stupid after the car crash that was Season 2. S3 has been more fun, but things just don't make any sense any more (why are people dying when they can cure them instantly with the magic blood? Why didn't the Peters, who are wanted terrorists, turn invisible to wander around NYC?). I think the audience has to simply accept that the same fire and enthusiasm that was there in S1 has been subsumed by a hungry need to make green, that the best writer (Fueller) has gone and that's it. It's still fun, but it's simply a way of passing the time until Lost and BSG come back.

[Gem Windcaster]

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Yes! Peter finally did something with his powers! Whoooo! Oh and I think it's really cool that he got Sylar's ability. It was exactly what the character and the show needed - a more active Peter Petrelli. It was really cool when Peter went to talk with Sylar in the future - and Sylar showed him the watch - hehe, it was cutish and almost intimate HAHA!

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And yeah, I get kinda annoyed about the fact that they seem to discount possible ways out all the time - like Peter's ability to heal people with his blood etc.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 10 October 2008 - 12:16 PM

[Trotts]

Okay, so you all have been talking about how predictable this season has been, I dunno, this most recent ep I found confusing and surprising. I guess

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I always figured Papa Petrelli would reappear, but still

[Sir Thursday]

I can't believe anyone predicted

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Hiro killing Ando like that

. It seemed WAAAY too sudden a turn around, unless the two of them had something planned in advance (which I doubt).

[Sparkimus]

I'm with you on that on Thursday, that just seemed to come out of nowhere

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unless he plans on going back in time later and trying to fix it...but I don't see how that would work out.

So I guess once again the timeline gets changed.

[Sir Thursday]

Sparkimus, on Oct 16 2008, 12:02 AM, said:

I'm with you on that on Thursday, that just seemed to come out of nowhere

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unless he plans on going back in time later and trying to fix it...but I don't see how that would work out.

So I guess once again the timeline gets changed.

It's weird, I've yet to see one person say they think that

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Ando is actually dead

. I think it would be a horrific writing decision if they actually did that, but if they really wanted to shock people, leaving it like that would be one way of going about it...


Sir Thursday

[Osric]

*spoilers*

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Hiiro obviously took an ando from the future and dropped him there, that's why Ando is like... HIRO??? instead of, why the fuck did you just stab me???

Hiro wouldnt stab ando, but he probably would stab the ando that killed him.

Anyway, the show's alright, just think the writers don't really know what to do with the powers. Peter has amazing powers but hardly ever uses them when useful, he can stop time ffs, go invisible, fly, explode in a nuclear bomb, heal from anything, so why the hell did he get killed with a gun and beat up by that french girl with a spot on her nose. Seriously. He has the power to heal right? So hes immortal.. right!? so how did he get shot and died? Or is the hatian there all day so he cant heal? No. Past-Peter used his power to kill his future brother and get out there so the hatian musta gone to the toilet at that point or something unexplainable (since 10 seconds before that he was powerless).

Unless there's a undiscovered character with the power of plotholes that's been messing stuff up, this show is getting worse.

[Sir Thursday]

Osric, on Oct 20 2008, 09:34 AM, said:

*spoilers*

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Hiiro obviously took an ando from the future and dropped him there, that's why Ando is like... HIRO??? instead of, why the fuck did you just stab me???

Hiro wouldnt stab ando, but he probably would stab the ando that killed him.

Anyway, the show's alright, just think the writers don't really know what to do with the powers. Peter has amazing powers but hardly ever uses them when useful, he can stop time ffs, go invisible, fly, explode in a nuclear bomb, heal from anything, so why the hell did he get killed with a gun and beat up by that french girl with a spot on her nose. Seriously. He has the power to heal right? So hes immortal.. right!? so how did he get shot and died? Or is the hatian there all day so he cant heal? No. Past-Peter used his power to kill his future brother and get out there so the hatian musta gone to the toilet at that point or something unexplainable (since 10 seconds before that he was powerless).

Unless there's a undiscovered character with the power of plotholes that's been messing stuff up, this show is getting worse.

The point was that the Haitian was standing there blocking both Peters from using their powers, so the shot hurt him initially. Then it's just a case of sticking something in the back of his head so that he can't activate his powers, or putting him on that IV drip that Mohinder set up in Season 1 and hey presto, he's dead until further notice. Of course, whether they actually did that, I don't know, but the writers do appear to be trying to cover over some of the plotholes. It's just that the way they want the story to progress creates WAAAAY too many of them for them to fix them all by having the Haitian be around (which seems to be standard procedure).


Sir Thursday

[ch'arlz]

I just can't get over the feeling that the writers have ADD or think their viewing demographic has ADD. Whilst I like multiple threads, and in fact think that they're one indication of great literature, Heroes this season has gone way overboard.

[Trotts]

Oooooh I love Hiro sooo much!

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His whole 'fake Ando killing' scheme, and just seeing the confused look on his face as he saw the paintings of himself being knocked out by a shovel. Ooh man, classic.

And oh my god but does Papa Petrelli freak me out.

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So his power is just a lot creepier than Peters eh? He actually saps the power away. Watching Adam disintegrate was quite chilling.

This post has been edited by Trotts: 21 October 2008 - 08:33 PM

[Gem Windcaster]

I have been fighting a strong feeling of meh-ness the last couple of episodes. This show is starting to become a disappointment for me, and that is saying alot. If they don't pick up pace, I might *horror!* get bored of the show!


I haven't seen the last episode yet though, I'm gonna do that now.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 21 October 2008 - 11:11 PM

[Sir Thursday]

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 22 2008, 12:11 AM, said:

I have been fighting a strong feeling of meh-ness the last couple of episodes. This show is starting to become a disappointment for me, and that is saying alot. If they don't pick up pace, I might *horror!* get bored of the show!


I haven't seen the last episode yet though, I'm gonna do that now.

Pick up the pace? They've been running at a million miles an hour all season! I don't think you can reasonable expect them to cram more WTFs and plotholes per episode . I mean, compare Season 3 with Seasons 1&2 - there's so much more going on now on a per episode basis. It's just that what's going on isn't as good.


Sir Thursday

[Gem Windcaster]

I watched the latest episode.


Meh.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 22 October 2008 - 12:10 AM

[Trotts]

What was meh about it for ya Gem? Or conversely, what would you have preferred to have seen?

[Gem Windcaster]

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Well, I don't know what's the worse option, 1. that Peter loses his abilities and becomes normal 2. that he is normal most of the episodes left, but get his abilities back in some lame way at the end 3. that he get his abilities back in some lame way the first thing next episode. I don't understand what they are thinking - throwing away a pivotal character like that. And what's with the stupid cliffhangers? There's one every episode. The only character that is somewhat good so far is Sylar - everyone else is just plain stupid and wide eyed. I want to see the characters live their lives, with jobs and families, and at the same time get dragged into the saving the world thing. Now they just sprinkle really bad oneliners all over the place - lame! But I could easily live with that, if the characters were interesting enough. So far there haven't been much interesting at all. Daphne's escapades - NOT interesting. Hiro's path - NOT interesting. Evil daddy Petrelli - NOT interesting.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 22 October 2008 - 12:49 PM

[Trotts]

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If Peter gets his powers back in some cheesy way next episode Ill be quite disappointed as well hehe. But I do find Papa Petrelli's line quite interesting. I want to see just how and what Peter will do (maybe this will represent a growing stage for him) and how Daphne will act now, seeing the kinds of things her 'boss' does.

But I see what you are saying Gem