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Posted 02 November 2007 - 04:58 PM

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The color might have something to do with how lethal it gets. Blue being not very lethal at all. That being how irish guy with gun was still alive. Ted had no control over his power so he just went straight to nuke.

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Actually, I would think that Ted had a lot more control of his power than Peter does. Remember the meditation sort of thing he did. And his power was always red, no matter what level of power, again refering to the whole meditation thing, and when he sealed the door in the Bennets' house.

So yeah, that blue thing is probably the electro girl, or someone else entirely
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:21 PM

True, there was also that thing Bennet guided him to doing where he EMP's the Company's prison warehouse thingy without frying Parkman.

- Abyss, also leaves open the possibility it was someone else entirely, maybe 'Adam Monroe'.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:36 PM

Yeah the Misterious Adam Monroe. What color was Sylars power after he took it from Teds head? I wonder if the fact that peter has so many different powers that they color each other. Can the powers bleed into one another, like merging warrens?

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:05 PM

We've never seen powers 'bleed'. Sylar was still using red, tho he didn't really use Ted's power all that much. I think we've seen Peter use the invisible, flight and tk powers more or less at once, but no one's done the 'energy blast' thing that way.

I'm wondering whether Monroe is a Kenzei alias, or otherwise someone we've seen already.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:35 PM

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Gem, are you sure that was Nikki - it looked more like her than Clair or Elle i agree.

No, not sure, I just assumed it was her, since Jessica is back. Nikki is probably stuck behind some mirror somewhere. That's what I read into the painting.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 01:04 AM

Okay I thought that was a pretty freakin amazing episode!!
Firstly, Takezo/Adam. Clearly Hiros betrayal left a scar, but that cant possibly be his soul motivation. I think it started him down a path of using his powers for personal gain and hes quickly developed himself into a 'Magneto'. Thanks to Parkman, he no longer has Maury (Loved how Parkman pwnt his pappy!) but hes set his sights on Peter now. Some how Nathan has to get their in time, to prevent Peter from becoming a pawn.

West is the creepiest guy. And it bugs me so much how whenever he acts creepy, he and Claire just kissy kissy, and shes all happy again.

Oh Mohinder....are you doing the right thing. So confusing!!

:D No twins!! But sadly that means no Sylar either. What happens when Sylar and Takezo/Adam meet. It sounds more or less like Adam is Magneto, and just wants muta-er heroes to be able to live freely and all. But Sylar wants all their powers unto himself, so he doesnt really mesh properly.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 02:16 PM

Yeah. I don't want Nikki to die! And Adam is really creepy. I can't wait until Peter kicks his ass. If Pete choose the wrong side, I'll get depressed.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:01 PM

If the Haitian took peters memory, wouldn't it mean that peter is playing a deeper game now. In fact I would take it to mean that he is teaming up with HRG in trying to find out how the company started and what their over all goals are. If Linderman was Adam disciple then why was he in lockdown when Linderman was running the company. Wouldn't he have been out and about causing trouble with linderman. Plus 400 years is a long time to hold a grudge. I am sure that he has loved and lost a lot since his time with Hiro.
The legand of Kenzi says that after he gives the dragon his heart. The dragon breaths life back into him and he goes on to rule for a long time. So it is still possible that he do what he has to do in the future and then go back to live with his princess. Hopefully this is the beginning of all of the good episodes.

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:07 PM

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-Vengance holding to Hiro being his own ancester


-McLovin, holding to the theory that Hiro will save the Minbari from the last shadow war using Babylon 4 and become Valen...what? :D
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:23 PM

Vengance;220737 said:

If Linderman was Adam disciple then why was he in lockdown when Linderman was running the company. Wouldn't he have been out and about causing trouble with linderman.


QFT! That really made me go WTF?

But overall, this was the best episode of the season. Hiro is still the only person that takes joy in his power and actually works to master it. Mohinder and Peter remain the most naive characters on the face of the earth but that's nothing new, they were pretty clueless last season as well. Mohinder might be a genius but I've seen toddlers with more street sense. Claire decides to be a teenager - again someone didn't learn anything from last season. But did I mention that Hiro kicks butt. And Parkman finally learns how to expand his own power.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:26 PM

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QFT! That really made me go WTF?

But overall, this was the best episode of the season. Hiro is still the only person that takes joy in his power and actually works to master it. Mohinder and Peter remain the most naive characters on the face of the earth but that's nothing new, they were pretty clueless last season as well. Mohinder might be a genius but I've seen toddlers with more street sense. Claire decides to be a teenager - again someone didn't learn anything from last season. But did I mention that Hiro kicks butt. And Parkman finally learns how to expand his own power.

Yeah Parkman learning how to use his power was pretty cool.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:20 PM

Well, when Linderman was in power.....was he really in power? I mean was he the head honcho? The top of the top? Or was he just a very successful businessman with ties to the company. I mean did Bob just materialize when Linderman died?
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:30 PM

Trotts;220770 said:

Well, when Linderman was in power.....was he really in power? I mean was he the head honcho? The top of the top? Or was he just a very successful businessman with ties to the company. I mean did Bob just materialize when Linderman died?


We saw from the picture that he was there from way back, but considering that most of the original people are dead, it would only be natural for him to take over as leader, no? After all, Lindermann more than anyone struck me as the obvious pick for leader among the group, at least with Hiro's father hving pulled out
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:38 PM

Trotts;220770 said:

Well, when Linderman was in power.....was he really in power? I mean was he the head honcho? The top of the top? Or was he just a very successful businessman with ties to the company. I mean did Bob just materialize when Linderman died?


No, that is what I am saying. If anything Bob was Lindermans disciple, and Adam was deemed a threat and was locked up before he could stop them. That would also mean that Parkmans dad was one of the good guys. I mean how many people are trying to take the company down, and Molinder just believes the shit that Bob is shoveling. Oviously the company could go after Adam or Claire, because either one of them should be able to be a cure to the virus. So going after Claire is because Bob wants HRG out of the way....

Another theory is that Adam and Bob and all of the rest are using Peter (cause he is the most powerful) to take out another company....A rival Company...You heard it hear first folks. It would make more sense if there were some type of competing companies....I mean in all of this time only a handful of other mutants have every tried to stop the company....I don't buy it...

I think that when Linderman was alive he was running the company. All of last seasons evidence points to that....

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 05:09 PM

I think they just grew apart idealogically. Adam started taking on the role of Magneto, while Bob sort of took the side of Prof X (kinda) in that he wants humans and mutants to coexist (okay he prolly wants to kill mutants off, or something equally sinister). And the company started to split, with 2 sides forming; Bobs and Adams.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:07 PM

I starting to understand how the older mutants are thinking - it seems they have tried to save the world not once but many times - each time putting off the apocalypse, only to get a bigger and meaner one around the corner. No wonder they wanted the bomb to go off, that virus is way more dangerous. Provided that the virus would have been stopped of course. The creation of the virus seems to be one of those things too...trying to stop something mean only creates a meaner outcome. Arrgh, this is giving me a headache. But in a good way.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:51 PM

Thankfully we have the younger generation to cut through pragmatism with naive idealogies of saving all the world!

Speaking of the Old Guard. I wonder why they/The Company, never had any interest in Dr. Suresh the Older. I mean, yea he has no power or anything, but he was a fairly respected geneticist and had a solid interest in the field, to the point of publishing a book. You would think they would scoop him up for the sake of understanding even more.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 07:32 PM

Trotts;220828 said:

...Speaking of the Old Guard. I wonder why they/The Company, never had any interest in Dr. Suresh the Older. ....


It's been suggested last season that they were watching him before Sylar imploded him.


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Posted 06 November 2007 - 09:31 PM

OK. And now I'm wondering if Hiro will go back in time to save his dad... and if he doesn't, then what great logical excuse they will find for him not doing it... :D
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 10:26 PM

I actually LIKE having so much of the plot be predictable!!!

I loved this ep. Note how every ep without the Mexican siblings rocks.

If Peter losing his memories is a part of Adam's plan, then Bennett's shenanigans are conceivably also a part of that plan. Or?
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