[amphibian]

I suppose you already know the disappointment that Herbert Jr has delivered to Dune readers. Fool me once...

If you persist, I strongly recommend going through your local library. They will almost certainly pick up a copy to appease the unrefined fan-boys. You can read it and make that decision without any money changing hands. Except if you purposely incur late fees like I do (contrarian way of contributing).

Tangent: Anyone hear anything about Anderson being unhappy with the series and the level of writing - more specifically, the way that Frank Hebert's subtlety has disappeared? I thought I remembered reading about that somewhere.

[Werthead]

Not really. I do know that Anderson was unhappy when only twelve people showed up at Worldcon for his reading from the book, only to find a queue of eighty-plus people waiting outside for the next reader, George RR Martin He said that maybe he should have brought some beer to raise interest in the reading. Someone should have replied that he should have written a better book.

I flipped through the first chapter of Hunters of Dune in a bookshop and it was heinous. Atrocious stuff, possibly even worse than the Legends trilogy.

[McLovin]

amphibian;135332 said:

Tangent: Anyone hear anything about Anderson being unhappy with the series and the level of writing - more specifically, the way that Frank Hebert's subtlety has disappeared? I thought I remembered reading about that somewhere.

Anderson's got a lot of nerve to complain, being quite the hack himself.

[Werthead]

I'm not sure if I read that right. Did he mean that the books he's been cowriting haven't turned out as well as he hoped? Or did he mean that the original Dune novels themselves got less subtle as they went along? Whilst I don't think anyone would argue that Heretics of Dune or Chapterhouse: Dune were on the same level as Duneitself, both books are notably superior to anything KJA has ever written.

[Morgoth]

I thought pretty much all literature was superior to what Anderson's written

[bwgan]

I'll buy it in paperback...don't want to...didn't want to buy the others...I mean the non FH books. But how can I not? I have read everything else (incl the encyclopdia.)

I probably need some sort of medical help.

[pat5150]

It's rather weird. For a book that was released to such fanfare, I have yet to see posts from readers who have given the book a shot.

As for me, Tor Books failed to send me a review copy and I sure as hell am not paying hardcover money for a novel who looks to be this weak. . . I'll buy this one in paperback.

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

[amphibian]

Why buy the book if it's weak?

Stop funding the hijacking of Dune. Use the library option like I suggested.

[GardenGnome]

Penny Arcade summed this up fairly well, some years ago. Be warned, though, nasty language.

Brian really should change his name to Frank. That way, new readers wont know what to buy, and might buy his books by accident.

[fan_83]

i read the book its better than the early series by brian.. its not as good as the work by frank but much better than brians as hes using his dads notes

[bwgan]

But I'm a collector/hoarder type person...I just can't not buy it..it's Dune!!! Ok, a pale imitation (yes I am being generous...I mean some of Butlerian Jihad [spl? - I was going to abbreviate it, but decided that would make me a hostage to fortune...I'm just glad I noticed ] made me go cross eyed with pain) but if I don't buy it there will be a gap on my shelves...oh, I am sorry...the guilt is...

[Mithfanion]

To be fair there are also a lot of people saying that this is really quite a good book and easily Brian Herbert's best book.

Personally I think it looks very intriguing but I have to say I have never read any of the sequels. The honoured matres and the machine intelligences seem extremely interesting groups though, how can they not add to the power of the Dune universe?

[GardenGnome]

"Brian Herbert's best book" doesn't really say much, given how bad the rest was...

But yes, I'm a bit excited about this, and I will read it at some point. I allways felt that Dune needed a more proper finish than it got.

[Folken]

*SPOILER WARNING* I'm ranting...sue me...


exactly what pat said...just wait for the MMPB to come out, or in my case wait for Chapters to put the hardcover out for less than 10 bucks.

If you are looking to get a taste for the book visit the official website www.dunenovels.com they have I think the first 5 or 6 chapters up for free.
But really it says something when a Sci-Fi author doesn't have e-mail;)

But from what I've heard about the book and what goes on personally I seriously doubt that THIS was the the GREAT VISION Frank Herbert had when outlined book 7. I just think it would've been too...well odd for him to have just introduced Omnious (the machine overlord in Legends of Dune series, the reason why the whole Butlerian Jihad began) so out of the blue in book 7. Yes sure he might have...I've never read or seen those magical notes that were found in some no-globe on Ix. Even if he did plan all of this he would've done it with so much more class
Dune is Sci-Fi but by no means was is it the classic man vs machine Sci-Fi crap that Anderson and B. Herbert have written. They have no imagination of their own, Prelude to Dune series was just a simple rip-off from Hertics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune...do they really expect us to believe that the Telixu lost a technology they created pre-dune for well over 4,000 years? or that the "No-House" that was discovered in Heretics of Dune was REALLY commissioned by the Baron and was also subsequently never found in over 4,000 years? Or hell if the rulers of Ix were such a big ally of House Atredis why the hell was that never revealed to us and why would they not help them in their time of need after Leto sacrificed everything for them? That was really messed up...*sigh*...To be honest they ruined The Chronicles of Dune series for any new readers that must have started with their crap. Hell even God Emperor of Dune ranks higher than anything they're written.

[GardenGnome]

It's nothing new that Brian is a **** writer, and that Anderson just adds flavour to the ****ness.

But God Emperor of Dune was good. Personally, I wasn't too fan of Dune Messiah.

[Folken]

:eek: Dune Messiah is the best book! I loved every word of that novel...I just can't bring myself to re-read God Emperor it was fun the 1st time around because you keep reading and keep waiting for something to happen but nothing ever does and then in the end he dies with a big groan (k not really) *meh* Still all those books were 10times better than those two lol....Prelude to Dune was bloody awful, I own Legends of Dune but haven't read a single word, it's more for collection purposes:Erm:

[Tom]

And people tell me off for posting spoilers... come on, guys, the tags are there for a reason.

People have to remember that the reason the books are different is because *gasp* the authors are different. No matter how good they wrote the book, how closely they stuck to old Frank's vision, people would always find fault and always nitpick.

Someone posted about why no one found the no-globe from the Prelude to Dune books... sheesh, kid, that's kinda the point of a no-globe - you don't find it, except by accident.

Anyways, my beef with the original Dune books was towards the end they just descended into random porn. (I'm talking Heretics and Chapterhouse). Oh, granted, there was the whole sexual hypnosis imprinting thing, but in the end there was no point to it - it just boiled down into bad porn.

[Folken]

The topic is for Dune 7...why would you be here if you haven't read any of the other novels...

[Tom]

Some people being reading books in the middle of a series, it's not uncommon. I did myself, at least three times in the past, if not more.