[Sir Thursday]

Winter's Heart was OK...but I think Knife of Dreams was cut down a tad too much. In the first 6, possibly 7 books it worked that he was heavy on the description - it made the interesting scenes that much more interesting. But in KoD there was no good description when it mattered. I think the editors overcorrected slightly, and consequently there was very little tension in such scenes as

Spoiler

The parting of Lan and Nynaeve, the battle to free Faile (AT LAST! That plot thread is done with!), the confrontation between Rand and Semirhage.

Matt's portion of the story was the only one that really grabbed me...but even then they didn't really get anywhere. They are STILL a long way from rejoining the action. (Unless I've completly forgotten the ending, which I don't think I have.)

Sir Thursday

[Darkwatch]

I enjoyed the Prince of Nothing by Bakker, though I will say the conversation between Kellhus and Moeghus felt too much like a way to sum everything up to finish in three books, yet this is only one scene. On the whole I enjoyed the series.

The book that dissapointed me the most has to be the "Dragon Queen" by Alice Brochart. I had no idea where she was going, I don't think she did either. Now I've read Kay and Bakker, but there were some scenes in this book that transcended bizarre. It really a poor mix and match, trying to put all the arthur legends together, ends up being a patchwork quilt made by an epileptic.

H?lo?se by Anne H?bert was also a big dissapointment. Recomended by most of my friends as one of the few french books that had an element of fantasy (at the time Les Chevaliers d'?meraude hadn't become popular enough to known) albeit "gothic vampire" fanatsy element. The problem was that the characters were lead around by the author, they had no life of their own, the psychology was all wrong and overall just badly written.

[Valgard]

Runelords book 2 by David Farland. The first one whilst not great was a good read with an interesting magic system and a coolish world. Book two was crap read fifty pages and then had to put it down to stop me tearing out my own eyes at the horror I was forced to read.

[Shryval]

The Redemption of Althalus... you know, if you wiped your arse on it, you'd have to aplogise to your arse. Looks like Eddings has said to his daughter "well lass, I wrote a story once that was ok for teenagers, and then I discovered I could change the names and get it published over and over, so here you go, here's how to do it. First, get a cute ill-tempered bare foot child goddess...."

Ian Irvine's Shadow on the something or other... Shadow on the Glass I think - the plot is a joke, the characters are beyond a joke. It's dross.

Orcs - Stan Nicholls - don't be fooled by the orc viewpoint (oh that's a good idea, you'll think). It reads like a computer game. Orcs fight overwhelming odds. Orcs win. They almost never ever take injury or die. Orcs find a magic crystal and a clue to where the next one is (yes honestly) Collect all five and game over, you win.

[Shryval]

Maknavox;115509 said:

Lols.. people! when you read the book "the dreamers" by David en Leigh eddings then all the books you mentioned here will seem like shakespearian masterpieces.

Its a piece that is SO crappy that you hate each and every char. Not because they make stupid decisions but because EVERYBODY is brilliant and pursuasive. Normaly i dont care is someone is brilliant, or pursuasive or whatever but i dont want all the ****ing characters repeating "Hes so smart" "Wow that was a brilliant move" "Wow black bow man, you NEVER miss" "Your dicks so big!" and other things like that.

Seriously. if it wasnt so exspensive i would have thrown it away.
Now Im just saving it for when i want to mentaly torment someone.

lmao Maknavox, you summed it up perfectly. It's unforgivable that a tree had to die to produce this stuff, but what really makes me furious is how you have to search bookshelves in vain for Erikson's masterpieces, and if you find it there's maybe one copy, possibly two, yet there are yards and yards of Eddings and Goodkind and Star Wars franchise tie-ins. Still, I guess we've always had to pan through the muck to find a nugget of gold.

[polishgenius]

Third that. The Dreamers is a book so bad that it fundamentally altered my brain - before it, 99% of the time I could read through a book even if it wasn't good (including The Elder Gods) but my mind simply rebelled, refused to read another word, and since then my wake has been littered with half-finished semi-decent fantasies.
>_>

Really, it is that bad.

[Grimjust Bearegular]

The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova - boring and poorly written

Catcher in the Rye - it went nowhere!

The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice - never ever have I read something so sucky as this! after finishing this book I felt a strong urge to go out, collect all her books, soak them in gasoline and light them on fire. And then laugh as I watch them burn to cinders.


Damn you to hell, Anne Rice, for ruining vampires for me!

[Astra]

Grimhilde;115790 said:

The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice - never ever have I read something so sucky as this! after finishing this book I felt a strong urge to go out, collect all her books, soak them in gasoline and light them on fire. And then laugh as I watch them burn to cinders.


Damn you to hell, Anne Rice, for ruining vampires for me!

Hmm. Interesting
I liked The Vampire Lestat even more than I liked The Interview with the Vampire. Thought it is one of the best books Anne Rice has written. About 4 months ago I bought a huge book - hardcover - from amazon.com marketplace, which consists of the first 3 books in the series Although I barely finished Memnoch the Devil (5th book), rubbish. Was not impressed by Armand as well. I think she lost her spark. I didn't read the last 3 installments in the series yet.

[McLovin]

Grimhilde;115790 said:

The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice - never ever have I read something so sucky as this!

But of course The Vampire Lestat sucked - he's a vampire.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Did you know that Anne Rice found god, quit writing about vampires, and is currently writing a series about Jesus? Seriously, no BS. I know it sounds like a set up to a bad joke, but it's true. Oh, and the series about witches is better than the vampire series overall, but she ties them together is some of her later books.

[Astra]

potsherds;115962 said:

:eek:
:eek: Holy mother of literature...I never thought I would ever ever agree with you Astra. I am so bummed.

Life

[Shryval]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;116071 said:

Did you know that Anne Rice found god, quit writing about vampires, and is currently writing a series about Jesus? Seriously, no BS. I know it sounds like a set up to a bad joke, but it's true. Oh, and the series about witches is better than the vampire series overall, but she ties them together is some of her later books.

I really hope she accidentally slips a few vampires in. Has Jesus and Vampires been done yet? Maybe the vampires rescue Christ from his crucifixion, becomes their saviour. Years later the cross is their sign but those horrible humans loathe it.

[Dr Trouble]

Shryval;116084 said:

I really hope she accidentally slips a few vampires in. Has Jesus and Vampires been done yet? Maybe the vampires rescue Christ from his crucifixion, becomes their saviour. Years later the cross is their sign but those horrible humans loathe it.

I believe a Wes Craven movie ties Vampires and Jesus toghether. I think it had something to do with Judas.

[Shryval]

Ah but did it have Richard and Kahlan in it? Because as we all well know, Richard Rahl is the only true saviour...

[Obdigore]

Shryval;116093 said:

Ah but did it have Richard and Kahlan in it? Because as we all well know, Richard Rahl is the only true saviour...

lmao... I picked up chainfire... but couldn't bring myself to read it... my interest was lost when I found out the original world was just like 5% of whats out there... bah!

[RodeoRanch]

Shryval;116084 said:

I really hope she accidentally slips a few vampires in. Has Jesus and Vampires been done yet? Maybe the vampires rescue Christ from his crucifixion, becomes their saviour. Years later the cross is their sign but those horrible humans loathe it.

Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter