[Shurque's biatch]

Got tLoLL from the library and will definately get Red Seas when the library has it.

Not fantastic enough to own, but still very good. Especially with having to wait for TtH and aDwD.

I guess I will need to go back through some of the other suggestions, you guys are so cool.

[percival]

i have to agree with mclovin.. when i read this it was a real strain to get in to it. the first half dragged by and i only probably continued as i didnt have anything else on the shelf waiting. i am glad i did though, as the second half flowed nicely and i loved the second book also.

[Dag]

Loved this book. It made me laugh, it made me bite my nails, it made me want to read more about Locke and Jean at the end. Already read "Red Seas under Red Skies", and can now hardly wait for the saga to continue.

[Yellow]

I started reading this thread and thought I was on another planet - nobody said a bad (or even mediocre) word about this book for about 40 posts.

Good to see the moderate posts near the end

I thought the book was alright, but not great. Scott Lynch has some good ideas, but for me they don't hit home quite right. The idea of the Gentlemen Bastards is a nice one, but the band in the book don't fit the title very well imo. Yeah, they're bastards, but that's about it.

I guess this book just wasn't for me. I found the caper stuff a bit dull - one example of where Lynch needs to improve is in the first third of the book.

Spoiler

He has the fake Midnighters turn up at the Salvara home and that's fine... but then he goes into detail, in flash back, of how Locke and Jean got dressed up as them and snook into the house and blah blah blah. 20 pages later and he's still describing that. Pointless and dull when we already know the outcome.

The book really improved about half way through, when...

Spoiler

...Locke had to dress as the Grey King and the shit hit the fan with Barsavi.

I loved that stuff. But then after that it was back to the caper stuff. I think I must not be a fan of the "caper genre", because...

Spoiler

...I find a lengthy section about Locke trying to get some nice clothes a big boring pile of crap after we've just read about a criminal revolution and three of his friends being murdered.

So yeah. Ranted a bit there, sorry. Thought the book was ok, but nothing special. I don't think I'll read the sequel. Still, Lynch is obviously good at what he does (mostly), but I don't think I like what he does.

[Shurque's biatch]

Just finished Red Seas under Red Skies. I loved it. Very engrossing and the antics of Jean and Locke are amazingly well portrayed. The bit where

Spoiler

Locke kicks the guy that was cutting their ropes at the top of the cliff and says "still fascinating" as he continues to kick him was fabulous, I burst out laughing

There weren't nearly as many slow descriptive interludes, it just kept clipping right along. The ending was a bit unsatisfying, with so many things wrapped up at once, but I will certainly read the next one.

[The Tyrant Lizard]

I've just red the first instalment. I was impressed. It had good characters and a good plot both within a good world. It seems like a well thought out novel. I MUST agree with yellow on his third assessment point. That was a bit like a marching band reaching a crecendo and then someone sitting on a whoopy cusion to ruin the atmosphere, only to have the band march on and resume playing once more.

Jean's hard.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I just finished this as well. Great fun, I enjoyed it. I wish the next one was available in paperback, but not until this summer.

[Yellow]

Just order it from the UK. The paperback's already out.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Sweet! I was not aware of that. Thanks.

[Varunwe]

I liked LoLL, but I loved RSuRS. This could be because I had lower expectations for RSuRS though. I had quite a lot of LOL moments. I agree the ending was a bit unsatisfying, but I had so much fun reading the book I'm not complaining

[Mezla PigDog]

(thanks obdi )

I finished tLoLL yesterday. It was good fun but I don't think I enjoyed it as much as some other people in this thread! For one thing, I didn't like any of the Gentleman Bastards.

Spoiler

to the point of being glad when the Sanza's got killed!

I was kind of hoping most of the way through that Locke would get his comeuppance for being such an arrogant swine.

The big highlight for me was the city of Camorr and the world itself. The alchemical hybrids were pretty cool and

Spoiler

multiple shark related deaths are not to be sniffed at

I'm hoping the series in the long run will get involved with the creators of Elderglass. I'm thinking it will and I hope it's as exciting as it promises to be.

So, I had RSURS in my hand yesterday and decided against it. Good enough that I'm glad I read it. Not good enough to fork out when it's not in Waterstones 3 for 2 offer

[caladanbrood]

The good news, without any spoilers, is that there's plenty of Elderglass mentioning in Red Seas

[paladin]

i finished the book recently.. it was a good start and i agree with mezla that the real star was the city itself

[Mentalist]

read this fairly recently
It was entertaining and funny at first, than things were happening all of a sudden and it just got awesome
Very good atmosphere and decent world-building through bits and pieces and name-dropping...

I'll probably pick up RSuRS the next time i'm in a bookstore and see it in paperback..

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Varunwe;259536 said:

I liked LoLL, but I loved RSuRS. This could be because I had lower expectations for RSuRS though. I had quite a lot of LOL moments. I agree the ending was a bit unsatisfying, but I had so much fun reading the book I'm not complaining

Why did you find the ending of RSuRS unsatisfying? I thought the ending was a perfect fit for the book.

[Varunwe]

I really mean the ending with Stragos. I can't give a real reason, it just felt unsatisfying. The rest of the ending was great.

[Werthead]

...;307587 said:

Why did you find the ending of RSuRS unsatisfying? I thought the ending was a perfect fit for the book.

Spoiler

Locke called upon those noble guys to help him out. They hadn't been mentioned at any point prior in the novel, they just came out of nowhere, saved Locke's bacon, and sodded off again. I was quite surprised that Lynch hadn't had them in a few scenes in the Sinspire earlier on, as it would have been a pretty easy fit and would have made the ending a lot stronger. As it stands, it just feels that Lynch pulled the conclusion to the novel out of his ass.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I enjoyed the first, it was a nice change of pace from the heavier stuff. Light and fun, but under the surface more complex than expected. I haven't gotten the second book yet though, I don't think it's worth it to me to buy in hardback, and I'm too lazy to order the paperback from the UK.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

I couldn't find a more recent Gentlemen Bastards thread, so I'm resuscitating this one. Applying electrodes...

Scott Lynch has written a blog post detailing a release date delay for Thorn of Emberlain. Apparently, he's moved cross-country and APPARENTLY he's marrying Elizabeth Bear (I hadn't even known they were dating!).

This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: 18 August 2016 - 08:04 PM

[amphibian]

Yeah, they bought a house together earlier this year. He's doing much better.