[Gem Windcaster]

After reading House of Chains, I really wanted to interpret what happens as all the bridgeburners, alive or no, will ascend (if they haven't already).
But later I realized that it doesn't have to be interpreted like that.
For Tanno's song to take effect, the bridgeburners have to die like a company. But what about those that are stille alive? I'm sure that Raraku will claim them when they die, but will they really ascend? Maybe not.
What are your thoughts on this?

[Dolorous Menhir]

Living BB's can be split into two groups - the retirees in Darujhistan, and the few actives.

I don't know about the retirees, I reckon they will probably ascend in the manner of Hedge when they eventually die.

But you could make a case for each of the active BB's ascending on their own merits, never mind the Tanno song or Raraku.

Paran, QB, Kalam, Fiddler, Apsalar - they are all quite likely to ascend in the future, some would claim that Paran & Apsalar already have. (Am I missing any active BB's there?)

[Sir Thursday]

I'm sure we will find out some more about the retirees in Darujhistan...probably towards the end, as Duiker is going to have to play a role at some point seeing as he appears to be the narrator of the story to a certain extent. I would imagine in Toll the Hounds, which is rumoured to be set on Genabackis...

Sir Thursday

[Gem Windcaster]

Sir Thursday said:

I'm sure we will find out some more about the retirees in Darujhistan...

I sure hope so, because this anticipation is killing me :burn:

Anyways, I guess that I am trying to think a bit like SE here, and he probably have a good reason for not killing off all the BB's at once. It is probable that he intends to let people like Paran, QB, Apsalar and Fiddler to ascend on their own merits - but what about the rest? I guess he must have spared Picker and Blend and the others for a reason too?

Arrgh, I'll have to get on with the next book before this becomes the end of me

Thanks for the answers though, guys.


~Gem~

[Dark Mac]

After finding out about Blend's magical skills, I very much doubt that she's going to just be dropped. Toll the Hounds has been stated to be on Genabackis by SE, so I'm quite certain we'll see the BBs again.

It's arguable that all five of the other BBs have already ascended, so it's likely enough that the others will as well.

[Lord of Salvation]

Well she has a role to play, but I dont think her capabilities warrant her a place in ascension over the rest of the survivors like Picker and the rest.

If some person who died long before MoI and went renegade to boot but still ascended with the rest of the dead company I think all of them will. Also who was that guy, Kalam remarked on him after he set the diversion for him to sneek into Kamist's command tent.

[SiriusL]

Lord of Salvation said:

Also who was that guy, Kalam remarked on him after he set the diversion for him to sneek into Kamist's command tent.

I got the impression that there were a lot of BBs present at Raraku whom we'd never met. It didn't seem like there was enough info to identify the dude, so I just wrote him off as "random BB". Maybe I'm misunderremembering.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Are you talking about the ghost BB with the burned face? He seemed to be someone who'd turned on the regiment and been killed long before.

If even BB's who went bad have ascended with the others, then all the BB's must ascend eventually.

[Father Light]

More interesetd in the manner that WJ may have ascended if it all.

[Gem Windcaster]

Father Light said:

More interesetd in the manner that WJ may have ascended if it all.

Are you thinking about the interest that Korlat and Rake have in WJ?
There must be a special reason for WJ not to ascend, when all the others do.
I think WJ has ascended.

[Lord of Salvation]

SiriusL said:

Maybe I'm misunderremembering.

Nice Word hehe

Dolorus Menhir said:

If even BB's who went bad have ascended with the others, then all the BB's must ascend eventually.

I said the same above, its the only viable option.

[Deuce]

Gem Windcaster;96277 said:

Are you thinking about the interest that Korlat and Rake have in WJ?
There must be a special reason for WJ not to ascend, when all the others do.
I think WJ has ascended.

I had always wondered if anyone else speculated on that. Why did Korlat not state the truth of WJ's leg giving out when Dujek questioned it? What did Rake have set up in Moonspawn that Quick commented on (if I remember right). Just seems there was an opening left there.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

If i remember correctly, Korlat did not tell the truth about WJ's leg to avoid making Mallet feel responsible.

[Tom]

SE's hinted himself that Whiskeyjack has ascended, in answer to questions of 'will he be coming back?', he even used the title 'Ascendant Whiskeyjack'. Because Rake worked different sorcery over him, not to mention the fact that he was a special person - he had the quality of leadership like Dassem Ultor and Kellanved, and several others - it's possible he may have ascended higher, or become more powerful than the others. The Tanno Spiritwalker's song, plus the Master of the Deck's blessing, plus Rake's own sorcery - it's a tasty mix.

[I HATE PORMQUAL]

im begging this question to be resolved in Reapers Gale. SE said hes going back to Genabackis and i think Darujistan. Heres Hoping the "retirees" get pulled out of retirement for one last wild ride and get saved by imo the greatest hero in this series so far (so far for me is about 200pages through MT, damn i love Tehol Beddict)

[ASAGO]

Dont forget if the brifgeburners do assecd rember that there were many bridgeburners throught the empire wars that are not in the stories so that wopuld be a whole assendent army

[Imperium Corruo]

ASAGO;142890 said:

Dont forget if the brifgeburners do assecd rember that there were many bridgeburners throught the empire wars that are not in the stories so that wopuld be a whole assendent army

That was certainly the implication. They could make their own High House...

[Terez]

I got the impression that it was only the Bridgeburners that were in the chase after Quick Ben in Raraku, the first time, that ascended, since they ascended due to the Tanno song. Is that indeed explicitly stated? I thought, before I read HoC, that they might have ascended due to Paran's blessing in Moon's Spawn.