[Lorn]

Hood of course and his deal with Paran probably had something to do with it which would explain his and Quick Ben's shock.

Rhulads feels too obvious, he's resurected all the time so that the entire serie is leading up to it just doesn't feel right.
Other candidates:
Father Light, if he's dead his resurection will bring balance to the force, can't have darkness without Light etc
Scabby who will free the Tiste Edur and hold a major grudge to CG for corrupting them in the first place.
But I think Mother Dark is the most interesting choice. Didn't the KCCM matrons cast a deathspell on her and Kurald Galain? And wasn't the end of the world somehow connected with it? (been ages since I've read MT and haven't got the book with me now so please correct me if I remember it wrongly) If it was a typical fantasy series it would be her "resurrection" and "rescue" that the books are all about.

[Dark Mac]

Agraba said:

Abyss, the defenition of death in Malaz world isn't to go to Hood's gate. It just means for the body to stop functioning, since the brain isn't working anymore. So many deaths didn't make it to Hood. But what Duiker went through was certainly death.

It's funny, because Steven Erikson never took into account that if the brain isn't exposed to oxygen for more than five minutes, cells are destroyed rapidly. Paran and Rhulad should both be vegetables.

Both Paran and Rhulad undergo healing from the gods when they come back, so the dead cells don't really matter.

Personally, I think Rhulad is likelier than any others, since his resurrections are far more important.

[namo]

Abyss said:

Tiam seems likely, what with Cotillion's comment that the dragons are at the heart of the conflict...

Exactly my opinion, and the same argument I had prepared when I read the original post.

[tiam]

Lorn said:

Hood of course and his deal with Paran probably had something to do with it which would explain his and Quick Ben's shock.

Rhulads feels too obvious, he's resurected all the time so that the entire serie is leading up to it just doesn't feel right.
Other candidates:
Father Light, if he's dead his resurection will bring balance to the force, can't have darkness without Light etc
Scabby who will free the Tiste Edur and hold a major grudge to CG for corrupting them in the first place.
But I think Mother Dark is the most interesting choice. Didn't the KCCM matrons cast a deathspell on her and Kurald Galain? And wasn't the end of the world somehow connected with it? (been ages since I've read MT and haven't got the book with me now so please correct me if I remember it wrongly) If it was a typical fantasy series it would be her "resurrection" and "rescue" that the books are all about.

yes the end of the world death spell kinda thing (?) was about how the KCCM pushed back MD until one day the wars beetweem light dark and shadow ends and the world ends.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Scabby has been mentioned, want to point out that he's a very conspicuous example of a dead person whose return would be very important to a lot of people.

Tiam, of course, though her being off-screen the entire series means I don't consider it likely at this point (no emotional involvement). This is assuming Tiam is not the O-Dragon.

Draconus, though not perhaps dead in the conventional sense, his freeing from Dragnipur is clearly going to happen at some point.

I would say Mother Dark, but do we have any reason to consider her dead? I'm not even convinced she's a conventional character with a body and dialogue, I think she's more of a concept/primal force/inanimate object (MT suggest a black hole).

Tattersail - already reborn, never died in a "final" way, soul went into Nightchill's remains.

Hairlock - I don't think anyone wants the psycho puppet back, at least nobody in the books. I'd like to see the manic mannequin come back and terrorise QB for a bit, for old times sake. But he's just not important in the scheme of things.

Dessimbelackis? Not verified as dead, he rather seems to have "dissolved" into his D'ivers form, in a similar manner to Trake going bestial as a tiger. Which, now that I mention it, makes me think a similar re-awakening could be on the cards for Dessimbelackis, if somebody finds his D'ivers form and does the right thing.

A'karonys? I don't see it...but I want to.

Itkovian - definitely dead, definitely an important character to both the story and the reader. And he could plausibly be useful in the same way as Heboric, somehow nullifying the Jade Giant souls. But I hope he doesn't come back, it would cheapen the end of MoI.

Whiskeyjack - dead, but coming back? Ruled out by author, though may have continued existence in some form as god of the Anibar (Iskar Jarak, the Iron Prophet).

Felisin Paran - dead, would certainly have a lot to do if resurrected (REVENGE). But I don't see why it would happen, she belonged to the Whirlwind Goddess, and Korbolo Dom's assassins killed her and the CG subverted her cult. Nobody has any use for Felisin, except as a weapon against Ganoes and Tavore.

If I had to choose I would say Tiam or Scabby, but I don't really buy any of these. I also don't think it will be a character introduced in later books...so I suppose what I'm saying is, I have no idea!

[Asandir]

In order to figure out who's going to be ressurected, you first need to figure out who's truly dead or what does reurrection entail in SE's case. We could all be looking at this from the wrong perspective.

Anyway whose dead or not.
Heboric dead and not sure if he's ressurected, his souls been set free.
Rhulad soul captured in the sword, so not truly dead.
Scabby's soul chained up somewhere so don't know if that counts as dead.
As seen with Tel and Curdle, they're able to possess bodies.
Can't see the point in ressurecting Felisin Paran.
Dassems daughter

[Dolorous Menhir]

Asandir said:

Dassems daughter

Hey, I like that one. What do you think would happen if she came back?

[Hume]

^

Thats entirelly possible as it said that Hood regreted the decision to turn Whiskeyjack away from mallet's Healing which had dire consequences in the end. And that Hood Planned to Make amends from that decision.

Maybe the Request to Paran had something to do with Dassem's Daughter, And a Reseruction of sorts would happen somewhere.

[Blend]

Throughout the first few novels, I always thought the story would revolve largely around the Paran family. So far it still does, minus Felision Paran because Tavore killed her. I was thinking that perhaps it would be her. To take down the Felisin currently occupying the throne of the Apocalypse, perhaps.

I'm not convinced that she's just gonna be dead for the rest of the series. Everything seems to be revolving around the Parans. Ganoes is the Master of the Deck, and Tavore is leading the mortal army that will oppose the Crippled God's mortal army. Why shouldn't Felisin be involved?

[Dolorous Menhir]

She's got no wider relevance than the leadership of a minor faction on Seven Cities, and Seven Cities is pretty much kaput as of BH.

How can you compare that to, say, Tiam? She just isn't that important. Maybe to her siblings, but to the story as a whole?

[Morgoth]

Dassem's daughter could be a possibility, at least concerning the favour Paran is asked by Hood... After all, Paran can enter the Azath containing Dassem's daughter, while Hood probably cannot.

[GardenGnome]

For some reason, the first person jumping to mind was Dassem's daughter. No idea why.

But then, why? What would change? Dassem would no longer be mad, and he would..? Join Ammaneas and Cotilion as rulers of the shadow realm? Just thinking, let's say it's Dassem's daughter - what effect will that have?

[GingerBreadMan]

I cannot imagine it being Daseem's daughter.

First, she isn't even "dead", just sleeping in the Azath so it would be an awakening rather than a resurection.

In addition, so what if she was resurrected/awakened?

Daseem isn't a power player in the way Tiam, Mother Dark, Elder Gods etc.. are.

He's a kickass ascendant who is perhaps the best swordsman on the planet, but if it came down to him vs Dancer/ShadowThrone I would pick the latter anyday.

Maybe it would lead to some sort of reunion, but why would Daseem need Vengance which is clearly built up in the series?

I still am going to put my money and someone who will shake the lines of power.

Tiam, Mother Dark, an Elder God

[Hume]

What if the Tyrant of Darujhistan Died and we know by name but just dont know it and he is going to be resurrected...

[Rockyturnbull]

I disagree, Felisin Paran may not be as vital to the Malazan world as say Tiam but "to the story as a whole" she is completely central. Pretty much the emotional centre of the series is the relationship between the different Paran siblings, and amazingly we haven't even seen any of them meet!! (except of course for the ignorant slaying).

The remaining books are bound to build on these relationships, it would be a real redemption for Tavore if Felisin were resurrected.

I thiknk she is the most likely character to come back rather than one of the "major players". Whatever, I can't wait to find out!!

[Monoch Ochem]

Well, I've skipped a few pages so bear with me if I'm being repetitive but recall Grubb's remark to Keneb. Something along the lines of: they're all coming to witness the final resurrection and they will try to kill "her"....

Was wondering about that just yesterday. "Her"...who's she? Mother Dark? She's not dead. Tiam? A more plausible candidate I think.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Rockyturnbull said:

I disagree, Felisin Paran may not be as vital to the Malazan world as say Tiam but "to the story as a whole" she is completely central. Pretty much the emotional centre of the series is the relationship between the different Paran siblings, and amazingly we haven't even seen any of them meet!! (except of course for the ignorant slaying).

Tavore and Ganoes had a brief conversation in GotM, when Ganoes took a break between commisions and went back home to Unta. That was our first encounter with Gamet, first introduction to Felisin ("too soft for this world..."), and when we first learned of the father Paran's illness. It's an excellent scene, when you first read GotM it means little to you, and yet revisiting it post DG & HoC is wonderful.

[tiam]

Dragnipur doesnt count as dying IMO neither does the Azath. They merely imprison (well merely the wrong word) for a length of time. For example getting trapped in an azath means you feed the azath but are still alive. Going through Hoods Gate is the end. We havnt seen anyone whos went through Hoods ghate come back out yet paran and the Hounds went into Dragnipur and came out and loads of stuff came out of the Azath in MT