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Why not? He may be a caravan captain, but he takes money to horribly murder people who attack him and those he's been hired to protect - pretty close, I'd say.
A New House: Analysis
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Posted 14 March 2006 - 08:32 PM
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 09:42 AM
Like said Sihras (must have done an error on this name) and Illuyankas, Gruntle, as the Mercenary seems to me a good idea.
He is the mortal sword of Treach yes, but he is also pretty reluctant to follow the orders from this God (look at the encounter with Toc/Annasteir). More over, he doesn't seem to believe in Treach.
As before he was a mercenary captain (caravan captain but that almost the same), I don't see why he would stop to act as before, he doesn't really since he became the mortal Sword of the cat god (weel panther in fact but... just a big cat ^^).
He is the mortal sword of Treach yes, but he is also pretty reluctant to follow the orders from this God (look at the encounter with Toc/Annasteir). More over, he doesn't seem to believe in Treach.
As before he was a mercenary captain (caravan captain but that almost the same), I don't see why he would stop to act as before, he doesn't really since he became the mortal Sword of the cat god (weel panther in fact but... just a big cat ^^).
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 05:36 PM
I get the feeling that the end of Hood is nigh as well.
It doesn't seem that he offers any kind of afterlife, just simply a place for souls to go, a type of holding area really.
Hood wants something shocking in return for freeing Hebroic, could it be he wants the souls a place to go? Could he himself be tired of this job, the lack of anything to offer the dead? Could his secret be that he sells the souls to whoever controls the jade giants? Is that the secret his former herald knows?
Hood seems to wheel and deal, when really, in his position, he doesn't need to. I mean, he is going to get souls regardless, why should he feel the need to deal?
It doesn't seem that he offers any kind of afterlife, just simply a place for souls to go, a type of holding area really.
Hood wants something shocking in return for freeing Hebroic, could it be he wants the souls a place to go? Could he himself be tired of this job, the lack of anything to offer the dead? Could his secret be that he sells the souls to whoever controls the jade giants? Is that the secret his former herald knows?
Hood seems to wheel and deal, when really, in his position, he doesn't need to. I mean, he is going to get souls regardless, why should he feel the need to deal?
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 06:04 PM
Hetan said:
Sure... a mortal sword could occupy a position in a house... why not? 
Gruntle is not a mercenary... but he could hold another position perhaps?
Gruntle is not a mercenary... but he could hold another position perhaps?
Given that the 14 the army is now cut loose, I would think that they would become the "Mercenary."
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 08:54 AM
is it possible that CG is creating an alternative to hoods realm with the salvation card like a heaven and hoods being hell, coz its always described in all of SE's books as a kind of hell or hades. the gaurdians of the road being like angels. and the throne is kinda going to be occupied by some one else me thinks. coz fid describes a figure who looks like hes screaming, so its possible rhulad may fight back and claim CG's throne....
- one could hope atleast, or have i just gone mad....
- one could hope atleast, or have i just gone mad....
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:50 AM
Remember that Salvation, in the context of what the Crippled God has created and what it will become, is an ironic title. It's what they promise, but represents a destructive and very dangerous movement.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:59 PM
I've always been under the impression that the Abyss is hell. Not that I've ever got the impression that Hood's realm is a pleasant place. But if it's just another warren so why wouldn't it be? Could just be a counterweight to the Malazan world.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 02:24 PM
Somewhere in MOI it is stated that the wolves are somehow related/worshipped by the live Imass. The imass als domesticated the wolves kin, the ay. Isn't it possible that the lord of wolves in the bone throne/perch is bonecaster monok ochem nom he takes the throne of the imass?
Furthermore I thought that d'rek and poliel were one and the same, meaning d'rek is consort/queen in the house of chains. Well, was, cuz the dogs finished her.
Furthermore I thought that d'rek and poliel were one and the same, meaning d'rek is consort/queen in the house of chains. Well, was, cuz the dogs finished her.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 02:50 PM
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Furthermore I thought that d'rek and poliel were one and the same, meaning d'rek is consort/queen in the house of chains. Well, was, cuz the dogs finished her.
The impression I received of the D'rek/Poliel thing is that D'rek was older than Poliel, but somehow over time worship of the two had blurred together, until some thought them manifestations of the same entity. However, the actual manifest goddess Poliel sided with the Crippled God, whereas D'rek, who was still around as the one that existed before Poliel, did not. The relationship between the two was misunderstood enough that followers of D'rek, knowing of Poliel's allegience, believed that their goddess followed the Crippled God. When D'rek discovered this, she became angry and killed her worshippers, who had begun siding with the Crippled God on her behalf.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 05:18 PM
I like it i like it alot, That would give another element to the dichotomy of the eldar gods and their younger counterparts. Eldar Gods corruption and manipulation was hinted throughout the BH this overt act by D'rek would add yet more grey areas to this already complex tapestry. But i am wondering when will an eldar god side with the crippled god as it is now it seems too black and white for erikson. A betrayal is coming i think and i for one can't wait
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 05:55 AM
It is certainly very likely I feel. There would have to be proper motivation however (for it to be believable) and I don't quite see any being plausible yet. Still... SE will suprise us of course!
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 04:31 PM
Ivan the terrible said:
But i am wondering when will an eldar god side with the crippled god as it is now it seems too black and white for erikson. A betrayal is coming i think and i for one can't wait
Quick ben in a conversation with
kalam: i thought Krul was fighting the CG
QB: it seems so, though sometimes i am not sure.....
Paraphrase, cant remember th exact quote. perhaps an elder god is allready working with the CG. quick ben has more information than me.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:34 PM
But what reason would anyone (of power, not considering all the cripples and other disadvantaged of the world who've joined him) have to choose to work with the CG? Poleil seems to have had ulterior motives - the attempt to heal Burn - and that's about it for his known allies among the gods & powerful. It seems that every single known god (save Poleil) is actively & violently opposed to him.
Given his aim is to destroy and subjugate everything, it seems difficult to imagine that, say, K'rul, would suddenly buy into that and switch sides. The Elder Gods may be indifferent to the pain he wreaks on the world, but they certainly wouldn't be well-disposed to his apparent objective, which is to kill/displace them all.
Given his aim is to destroy and subjugate everything, it seems difficult to imagine that, say, K'rul, would suddenly buy into that and switch sides. The Elder Gods may be indifferent to the pain he wreaks on the world, but they certainly wouldn't be well-disposed to his apparent objective, which is to kill/displace them all.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:42 PM
is it ever actually stated that his motive is to subjugate/destroy everything? the CG is elder, who is to say him and krul dont go way back
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 07:50 PM
I think the CG wants everyone to suffer in whatever way he can fashion for them.. for somethat would be subjugation, for others pain and maiming... etc... he doesn't care, as long as it causes pain and suffering.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:27 PM
Another idea as to who the Mercenary could be. The Grey Swords were a mercenary company, right ? Dead people can occupy places in a House (Trake and Baudin for example.). The House of War is related to the realm were T'lan Imass memories were sent by Itkovian and the Bonecasters, right ? You follow me ?
Itkovian for Mercenary, anyone ?
Itkovian for Mercenary, anyone ?
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Posted 06 April 2006 - 01:25 AM
Murrin said:
Remember that Salvation, in the context of what the Crippled God has created and what it will become, is an ironic title. It's what they promise, but represents a destructive and very dangerous movement.
Paran said that it was under the influence of the CG now, but that that would likely change in the future.
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Posted 06 April 2006 - 02:22 PM
Urko Crust said:
is it ever actually stated that his motive is to subjugate/destroy everything? the CG is elder, who is to say him and krul dont go way back
K'rul actually tells us this, in his POV at the start of MoI.
K'rul is musing on the destruction caused by the fall of the Crippled God, and mentions having been to see the remains of the god. He says something along the lines of not having sympathy to spare the CG, but not being indifferent to his suffering. He also makes some comment about dreading the day the CG regains his full power, because the pain and suffering he suffered would have made him insane.
It is made quite clear that although K'rul knows of Cg's origins, he doesn't know him.
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Posted 14 April 2006 - 02:39 PM
MPDFuzz said:
I get the feeling that the end of Hood is nigh as well.
It doesn't seem that he offers any kind of afterlife, just simply a place for souls to go, a type of holding area really.
Hood wants something shocking in return for freeing Hebroic, could it be he wants the souls a place to go? Could he himself be tired of this job, the lack of anything to offer the dead? Could his secret be that he sells the souls to whoever controls the jade giants? Is that the secret his former herald knows?
Hood seems to wheel and deal, when really, in his position, he doesn't need to. I mean, he is going to get souls regardless, why should he feel the need to deal?
It doesn't seem that he offers any kind of afterlife, just simply a place for souls to go, a type of holding area really.
Hood wants something shocking in return for freeing Hebroic, could it be he wants the souls a place to go? Could he himself be tired of this job, the lack of anything to offer the dead? Could his secret be that he sells the souls to whoever controls the jade giants? Is that the secret his former herald knows?
Hood seems to wheel and deal, when really, in his position, he doesn't need to. I mean, he is going to get souls regardless, why should he feel the need to deal?
That makes perfect sense. Could that be the reason Paran is musing on making 'Salvation' a new unaligned???
Bould this be Hoods request?
