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Question: Where did the DHG convergence come from?
#1
Posted 11 February 2006 - 05:02 PM
I reread #2, and still, I don't think I got a clear answer of how it just came up. What would make many soletaken and d'ivers from around the world just suddenly want to ascend at the same time, and go towards the gate that they believe holds that promise? It coudn't have just been emailed to them. There couldn't have been a guy roaming the streets with a bell yelling "hear ye, hear ye, the path to ascendancy is open for all shapeshifters!" Was it just a major coincidence that they were all pondering on Kellanved's ascension, and all came to the same conclusion at the same time?
Heboric said it may be related to the Whirlwind rebellion, yet he didn't elaborate on that at all, and the very notion was dismissed by Kulp, I think. And I don't see how it could be related.
Anyways, was there something I'm missing?
Heboric said it may be related to the Whirlwind rebellion, yet he didn't elaborate on that at all, and the very notion was dismissed by Kulp, I think. And I don't see how it could be related.
Anyways, was there something I'm missing?
#2
Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:33 PM
The promise of power would make them want to ascend, I would have thought. Immortality (subject to being murdered) is something any soletaken would crave after the massacre by the Imass. Moreover, wasn't there the promise of god-hood....was it that Iskaral Pust's fake trail was supposed to lead to some sort of throne?
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#3
Posted 11 February 2006 - 11:28 PM
the gate caused the desire, like a wanderlust, or biological clock, they just felt a desire to go to raraku; to where (i think) the first empire that spawned them was.
also the whirlwind is differant from raraku
also the whirlwind is differant from raraku
#4
Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:14 AM
Well I never mentioned that Raraku had anything to do with it... did I?
So what: is it that there was a position needed in the Deck of Dragons, and the gateway in Iskaral's temple set off a mental alarm clock in each of the affected from the first empire, so that the position could be filled by the first attendant? Perhaps was it looking to fill a replacement for Fener's position?
Also, your signature was extracted from No Leaf Clover, a great song if I may say.
So what: is it that there was a position needed in the Deck of Dragons, and the gateway in Iskaral's temple set off a mental alarm clock in each of the affected from the first empire, so that the position could be filled by the first attendant? Perhaps was it looking to fill a replacement for Fener's position?
Also, your signature was extracted from No Leaf Clover, a great song if I may say.
#5
Posted 12 February 2006 - 03:27 AM
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Heboric said it may be related to the Whirlwind rebellion
maybe heboric thought it was the whirlwind but in reality it was raraku
#6
Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:15 PM
basically there was a lot of power up for grabs and as we know:
"power attracts power"
"power attracts power"
#7
Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:17 PM
Kimloc: '...The Prophecy of the Path of Hands. Soletaken and D'ivers. A gate promising...something. They are drawn as moths to a flame...I do not think even the Soletaken and D'ivers are fully aware of what they seek. Like salmon returning to the waters where they were born, they act on instinct, a visceral yearning and a promise only sensed...There is no unification among shapeshifters. Each stands alone. This Path of Hands...is perhaps a means to Ascendancy - for the victor...Domination of its own kind...'(DG, UK MMPB, p.92)
#8
Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:34 PM
to become the ruler of Soletaken and D'ivers. Now thats POWER
#9
Posted 12 February 2006 - 12:42 PM
I thought the Path of Hands led to the Beast Throne, and whoever completed it would take that throne and become God of Beasts (and by extension, Soletaken & D'ivers).
As to how they knew about it, the quote above shows how. All Soletaken are magical people, if you think about them as a kind of mage (Gryllen was pretty handy with his spells) they would have sensed the "path" opening or whatever and been drawn to a new source of power.
A similar deal if you consider them as beasts. Some sense led them to the Path to Ascendancy, and as Kimloc said they may not have fully understood it themselves. They did all seem pretty unbalanced by the time they got to Tremorlor, and even before that Messremb had an "edge of madness", or something like that. They were driven.
So why is it called the Path of HANDS? Hands not being a consideration for most Soletaken/D'ivers.
As to how they knew about it, the quote above shows how. All Soletaken are magical people, if you think about them as a kind of mage (Gryllen was pretty handy with his spells) they would have sensed the "path" opening or whatever and been drawn to a new source of power.
A similar deal if you consider them as beasts. Some sense led them to the Path to Ascendancy, and as Kimloc said they may not have fully understood it themselves. They did all seem pretty unbalanced by the time they got to Tremorlor, and even before that Messremb had an "edge of madness", or something like that. They were driven.
So why is it called the Path of HANDS? Hands not being a consideration for most Soletaken/D'ivers.
#10
Posted 12 February 2006 - 02:42 PM
Dolorous Menhir said:
So why is it called the Path of HANDS? Hands not being a consideration for most Soletaken/D'ivers.
Because the Path of Scent Glands, while more accurate, is stupid.
I'd put it down to mystical unexplainable powers, because sometimes things happen in books because the author says so.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
#11
Posted 12 February 2006 - 05:01 PM
i think because it was marked by a path of hands...funnily enough
as in pictures of hands marked the way to the gate
as in pictures of hands marked the way to the gate
#12
Posted 12 February 2006 - 06:27 PM
i think the path of hands is just a name, although theres prolly some deeper meaning
if i remember correctly, the hands that were all over were just planted by pust to mislead the soletaken/divers right?
if i remember correctly, the hands that were all over were just planted by pust to mislead the soletaken/divers right?
#13
Posted 12 February 2006 - 07:32 PM
K I'm going to go ahead and move this thread to Deadhouse Gates. As it deals specifically with that novel and it also seems like a good question newbies to the series would like answered. And I'll edit the first post for a that HoC spoiler
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