[Svaran]

He holds that distinction for me as he reminds of something that Eddings would have created for light relief unfortunately I don't find he or his antics funny at all.

Out of all the Characters that Erickson has created he's strikes me as being the aberration.

[QuickTidal]

See I am of the opinion that he doesn't exist at all for light relief, that in fact he may indeed be the most powerful person in the Malazan world, and that his light hearted nature is simply a side effect of the character. I believe he is that way for a reason, and not meant as you think, IMHO anyway.

[Agraba]

Kruppe is, you might say, the words of wisdom. After all, Whiskeyjack and Dujek divined that K'rul picked him because he's the smartest man in the world. Anything he says is relevant to the story, anyways, so he's certainly not an aberration. He figured out Silverfox's intentions, and the T'lan Imass' sole purpose for attending the gathering. Granted, his role wasn't as essential or likable as in Gardens, where he was responsible for half the things that went on in Darujhistan.

[Called-by-the-Voices]

Oh how I hate that little gnome...

I loved him sooo much in GotM, but in MoI?
Puke, puke, puke...

And most certailny is NOT the most powerful person in Malazan world...

Tool is:rolleyes:

[MecnunK]

Hi

I do not think Eddings knows the meanings of half the words Krupe uses..atleast without a dictionary

I really liked kruppe in his first appearence but must admit in MOI he got a bit overbearing with his flowery language saying nothing..still I like him..

[Dagger]

I think Kruppe plays the game better than most everyone except Quick Ben. I am re-reading MoI right now and he is might be one of the most powerful of all the characters. I can easily see the very end of the book, when devastation is all around after the defeat of the CG, Kruppe getting up, dusting himself off, and not wanting to share a sweet treat with QB.

[No-God]

I love Kruppe.

The thing is, Eddings didn't write him - imagine if he did! His books would be one character better.

I enjoy watching how someone like Kruppe can play life like a game and always benefits from any chaos that occurs.

[ObsoleteResolve]

Kruppe is definitely not an aberation by any stretch. Tehol Beddict in Midnight Tides and Iskaral Pust in DhG/HoC are those arc's Kruppes.

Kruppe is my second favorite of the three. Tehol is definitely awesome. Must not, however, say more. Except: it is so worth it to get the other books ahead of time and order them from the UK. Even if the price is a little painful (mass market paperback: 17 dollars with shipping).

But, yeah. It seems like every major novel arc has it's "Okay, this crazy, crazy, crazy m'f'er's got something going on. I just don't know what his game is."

.david
-Iskaral's cool in a different way, just because he's so disturbing when his facade fractures and whatever else peeks through.

[Cold Iron]

mmm... kruppe and pust can both annoy and delight on a single page, i think their true value is in offering something different to the standard gruff, sarcastic, jaded malazan soldier character, of which there are a lot...

gotta love iskarals hated spiders turning out to be his d'ivers wife

also Kruppe actually has a huge role in events, which comic relief characters usually dont

[Tiste Simeon]

bc7 said:

one things for certain about those two. It's a damn good idea to pay close attention to what they say, and then it's a damn good idea to try and work out what they are going on about. They are both masters of mis-direction

This is true... the irritating thing is that they are both so important to the story line... I always want to skip Pust, but I know I need to read it (even when I have already read the book. )

[Dagger]

I'd like to know to what extent Kruppe's powers are. There's that scene where QB, Kruppe and a few others are gambling and Kruppe is running the table. QB is trying to get a reading on Kruppe and he just can't do it. He describes Kruppe as "slippery".

[Tiste Simeon]

Dagger said:

I'd like to know to what extent Kruppe's powers are. There's that scene where QB, Kruppe and a few others are gambling and Kruppe is running the table. QB is trying to get a reading on Kruppe and he just can't do it. He describes Kruppe as "slippery".

Kruppes powers are stuff like immense control and manipulation. Subtle powers, not out and out uber-cool-pwnage powers like Rake or others like him.
Perhaps his powers could be described as "puppetry" skills.

[Cold Iron]

"not out and out uber-cool-pwnage powers like Rake or others like him"
haha I want uber-cool-pwnage powers! What are uber-cool-pwnage powers? *is mystified and amused by Rake's uber-cool-pwnage powers*

[Agraba]

I absolutely love reading every line of Iskaral Pust. He cracks me up. He doesn't really seem like a genius to me; he just says kind, reassuring things as Kruppe would, and then recites aloud his sinister thoughts that he wouldn't want anyone else to hear. I don't think he's even aware of it. If he were trying to pick up a girl in today's world, he'd probably say something like, "Hi I'm Iskaral Pust. Yes, that's it, issue a warm introduction, so as to incite the devious facade of a societally-provoked means of casual companionship, only to conceal that my aspirations are more towards the taking advantage of her physical attributes. She'll never suspect a thing, hehe." Everything he says makes me laugh. But there's just nothing genius about it; it's just giving away all your chess moves to your opponent. In fact, that's exactly what he'd do.

Kruppe is... Kruppe; what can I say? He's the most falsely modest (as the GotM index put it) man in the world, because he'll always make his appearance a fat, stupid incompetent man. That's certainly the impression Coll and Murillio transmit to the encampment on their arrival. Hell, for all we know, Kruppe could have paid off the two in Darujhistan to make all the comments they do. And somehow, he's ending up with all the money in his pockets (and, of course, all the snacks he can handle). And if two good friends are conspiring, and keeping as subtle as possible, Kruppe will figure out their intentions.

[Dancer+]

An utter thread revival but I wanted to make a small point about Pust. No other thread is/was as relevant as this that I can find.

Pust underplays his dangerous nature, by blurting out his 'feelings' that are of a most dangerous nature, therefore people think that not only is he a bit mad but that they have the upper hand because they now know his plans so they can take advantage of that fact. What better way to convince your opponent that they are one step ahead of you than telling them a version of events which fits the bill, especially when you appear too mad to realise that you are actually doing it. It's genius in a way, it's his way of hiding behind his real powers. He gives off the impression that he's mad and relatively powerless, instead of conniving and hiding behind a powerful barrier. Just wait and see.