[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 26 February 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

I was on Westeros for about a week before feeling utterly dirty and gross. I have since not gone back.

I was wondering where you were...

Have you read Magician before? Coz if not: enjoy!

worrywort, on 25 February 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

That elicits another question though: What kind of monster would casually hop on over to the Westeros board and expect to remain unsullied?

I've been a regular there for years. Am I a mole in their midst, or in yours?

This post has been edited by polishgenius: 26 February 2012 - 12:06 AM

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 26 February 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Have you read Magician before? Coz if not: enjoy!

I have read MAGICIAN: APPRENTICE before, but I've not read the second book MASTER yet...so I thought I'd start again from the beginning. I really, really enjoyed MAGICIAN the first time I read it.

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 26 February 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

polishgenius, on 26 February 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Have you read Magician before? Coz if not: enjoy!

I have read MAGICIAN: APPRENTICE before, but I've not read the second book MASTER yet...so I thought I'd start again from the beginning. I really, really enjoyed MAGICIAN the first time I read it.

This always confuses me because it's just the one book here (I also read the extended Author's Cut version but I have no idea where that differs from the original publication or whether you'll also be reading that, though I'd guess yes, but I do get the impression that the differences aren't especially big, though a quick search tells me at least one scene I really liked was cut originally). <-- That is one ungainly sentence.

It is a novel that has a perfect place to break it in two, though, so it makes sense.

This post has been edited by polishgenius: 26 February 2012 - 12:45 AM

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 26 February 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 26 February 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

polishgenius, on 26 February 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Have you read Magician before? Coz if not: enjoy!

I have read MAGICIAN: APPRENTICE before, but I've not read the second book MASTER yet...so I thought I'd start again from the beginning. I really, really enjoyed MAGICIAN the first time I read it.

This always confuses me because it's just the one book here (I also read the extended Author's Cut version but I have no idea where that differs from the original publication or whether you'll also be reading that, though I'd guess yes, but I do get the impression that the differences aren't especially big, though a quick search tells me at least one scene I really liked was cut originally). <-- That is one ungainly sentence.

It is a novel that has a perfect place to break it in two, though, so it makes sense.

The copies I have of both halves are the "Author's Preferred Edition" so I hope mine is the same cut as yours.

[polishgenius]

That should be it.


While there were other books before it, obviously (Narnia, The Hobbit, Eddings, and maybe LotR, I can't remember which I read first), I can pretty much blame my current obsession with fantasy on Magician.

[amphibian]

polishgenius, on 25 February 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

I'm sorry, but that's not true at all. You only have to hop on over to the Westeros other lit boards and search for 'Bakker and Women' to find multiple threads discussing the matter going back to at least 2009, and they're hardly the extent of the discussion, topics frequently get derailed if someone so much as hints at the subject. You can find Bakker blog posts referencing the subject going back before then too, so I presume it was wider spread than just Westeros (though he did join in there at one point, starting off as a sockpuppet - - which he got a bit of stick for in its own right but he did reveal himself and get stuck in properly (I think it was more misjudgement of internet moods regarding authors taking part in the discussion of their own books than a genuine attempt to mislead people). Requires Only That You Hate (I'm presuming that's what you're on about) only posted about Bakker last year and iirc only got linked in to one of those discussions on Westeros late in the year.

I'm not saying ROH isn't being a dickbag about their contribution to the discussion and did apparently cause a spike in interest in it, but it was going on long before that, and by people who have fully read the books.

Ah, I'm sorry. I'm only familiar with it from Werthead and Pat's blogs and they only mention the Only You Hate thing - not the Westeros and Bakker posts. I didn't know it was that widespread and a recurrent issue. Basically, the highest profile reactions I saw were all in response to that troll (who probably got the idea from Westeros and ran with it).

I actually dislike Bakker as a person in terms of his blogs, but I like his books if that makes any sense. Still don't get why White Luck Warrior was the title of the last one.

[Nyarlathotep]

Reading at t'moment? After reading above posts I looked at Requires Only That You Hate-acrackedmoon. Twatage, pure twatage!!! Only there to be controversial for the sake of controversy. Probably a racist and a sexist him/herself. After all, the only thing you require is hate. Scum!!!

[amphibian]

Nyarlathotep, on 26 February 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Reading at t'moment? After reading above posts I looked at Requires Only That You Hate-acrackedmoon. Twatage, pure twatage!!! Only there to be controversial for the sake of controversy. Probably a racist and a sexist him/herself. After all, the only thing you require is hate. Scum!!!

Exactly. I value people with different viewpoints than my own, but that's not a viewpoint, that's just "I want attention".

[Kruppe's snacky cakes]

I'm ascared to mention anyone else, for fear Morgoth will have a dossier on that person. I think I've read 2 Heinlein novels and a handful of short stories, so no, I was not aware of his rape theories. As a former forensic investigator, hopefully I've done more to help rape victims than Heinlein did to hurt them with his non-progressive thought 60 years ago (or whenever)...so I guess karma will forgive me for saying something nice about him. Can I get a list of approved authors? How about Maya Angelou? Can I read me some Maya Angelou, or will she turn out to be a Nazi sympathizer?

Here goes. I've been reading the various "Mammoth Book of" fantasy collections, and I ran across a short story by Craig Shaw Gardner, set in his Ebenezum/Wuntvor universe. If anyone needs a break from epic fantasy and wants to read something more comical, I highly recommend A Malady of Magicks and his other 5 fantasy-parodying books. I didn't pre-google this recommendation, so I'm rolling the dice on you, Craig. I hope you have clean hands and pure thoughts.

[McLovin]

Still reading THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN by Robert E Howard.

Finally finished the BELGARIAD, moving on to WISHSONG OF SHANNARA by Terry Brooks.

Also just finished FANTASTIC FOUR: SEASON ONE.

[worry]

Kruppe you dang weirdo, nobody has told you what to read and what not to read. I initially brought up Card's idiotic and vicious politics because it more and more overtly infiltrates/poisons his work, not because I put him on some sort of retroactive author black list.. Although I do think it should inform whether you want to buy a working author's books new or used, depending on whether you want to financially contribute to them.

[worry]

Also, I'm reading The Breach now, based on word of mouth from this board (QT? I forget). It's not a genre I normally read, but I'm certainly willing to give it a shot.

[Primateus]

Glen Cook's Chronicles of the Black Company.

[Morgoth]

Kruppe, on 26 February 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

I'm ascared to mention anyone else, for fear Morgoth will have a dossier on that person. I think I've read 2 Heinlein novels and a handful of short stories, so no, I was not aware of his rape theories. As a former forensic investigator, hopefully I've done more to help rape victims than Heinlein did to hurt them with his non-progressive thought 60 years ago (or whenever)...so I guess karma will forgive me for saying something nice about him. Can I get a list of approved authors? How about Maya Angelou? Can I read me some Maya Angelou, or will she turn out to be a Nazi sympathizer?

Here goes. I've been reading the various "Mammoth Book of" fantasy collections, and I ran across a short story by Craig Shaw Gardner, set in his Ebenezum/Wuntvor universe. If anyone needs a break from epic fantasy and wants to read something more comical, I highly recommend A Malady of Magicks and his other 5 fantasy-parodying books. I didn't pre-google this recommendation, so I'm rolling the dice on you, Craig. I hope you have clean hands and pure thoughts.

Oh come on. Stop this ridiculous persecution nonsense. No one are trying to tell you what you're allowed to read, or which author's you're permitted to like. Nor are you being accused of sharing the views of men like Heinlein or Card. I loved Ender's game. I read everything by Simmons even though I find his personal politics abhorrent.

You made a claim that was factually incorrect about the sci fi genre in a book thread on a forum dedicated to a fantasy author. It was hardly something that nerds like us could let slide. Especially as you combined that with a rather arrogant assumption of what sort of culture we have here.

Don't think I'm trying to sensor you. I'm not, and I wouldn't have been allowed to by the others even if I tried. Amphibian might just have felt forced to bring out his sarcastic voice, and no one wants that.

[Morgoth]

I do however realise that I could have gone about the whole thing in a somewhat more polite fashion.

[JLV]

Morgy SMASH

[amphibian]

Morgoth, on 26 February 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Amphibian might just have felt forced to bring out his sarcastic voice, and no one wants that.

Riiiiiiibit. Riiiibit ribbit ribbit ribbity rib. Ribbit.

[QuickTidal]

worrywort, on 26 February 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Also, I'm reading The Breach now, based on word of mouth from this board (QT? I forget). It's not a genre I normally read, but I'm certainly willing to give it a shot.

The Patrick Lee bandwagon is run by myself, Abyss and SaltmanZ. Enjoy it!

[T77]

UseOfWeapons, on 24 February 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

T77, on 23 February 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

I'm about 40% into The Dragon's Path by Daniel Abraham and I am not liking it so far. Does it get any better or should I bail?

Stick with it, you wont' be disappointed. It's something of a slow-burner, and it's a more traditional fantasy than the Long Price, but it's got a heck of a pay-off.


I'm currently reading _Trick or Treatment_, Simon Singh and Edvard Ernst's book about complementary and alternative medicine.

Thanks! I put it down, I'll get back to it.

[Use Of Weapons]

Finished _The Hunger Games_ last night -- interesting, and I liked it, but I'm not sure if I liked it enough to get the next book.
Now onto _Theft of Swords_, and...it's not grabbing me :-(