[Chance]

amphibian, on 30 March 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

I hated Under Heaven. There's much discussion of it in this thread and the GGK specific one.

Checked it up and realized its amazing we frequent the same forums and have any books we like in common Anyone rating Tigana over Under Heaven is a heretic .

Still going to ask your advice. You did like the Dark Forest above it is in my might be something to read eventually pile, is it worth it for someone who found The Three Body Problem only so-so but promising something better to come?

This post has been edited by Chance: 30 March 2017 - 06:08 PM

[amphibian]

Chance, on 30 March 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

amphibian, on 30 March 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

I hated Under Heaven. There's much discussion of it in this thread and the GGK specific one.

Checked it up and realized its amazing we frequent the same forums and have any books we like in common Anyone rating Tigana over Under Heaven is a heretic .

Still going to ask your advice. You did like the Dark Forest above it is in my might be something to read eventually pile, is it worth it for someone who found The Three Body Problem only so-so but promising something better to come?

For a while, you're not gonna understand why Liu is bothering with this character. Hell, the character doesn't understand either. But there will be a point where the book changes from something to be read to something disturbing and very cool. It makes Three Body Problem worthwhile. I have yet to read the third book, although I will.

Also, if anyone likes Brent Weeks (prism books), the Brian Staveley books starting with The Emperor's Blades is right in that groove.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 30 March 2017 - 09:09 PM

[Tiste Simeon]

Currently actually really enjoying Lightbringer when I have chance to read it. Kip is getting less annoying by the chapter and his story is the best plot IMO. Glad I kept going with it.

[Grief]

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

[Andorion]

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

Mike Carey did a fantastic spin off series called Lucifer based on the Lucifer character Gaiman created. I read it last year and its great.

[QuickTidal]

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

He also recently did a short mini-series called SANDMAN: OVERTURE, which is what it sounds like...a prequel. It's solid, if not ever reaching the dizzying highs of the main original series.

As for me, I'm back into THE FORGETTING MOON by Brian Lee Durfee again, and now it's really singing along. 100 pages in and quite enjoying.

[Abyss]

Andorion, on 31 March 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

Mike Carey did a fantastic spin off series called Lucifer based on the Lucifer character Gaiman created. I read it last year and its great.

Infernally seconded.

[Grief]

Abyss, on 31 March 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

Andorion, on 31 March 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

Mike Carey did a fantastic spin off series called Lucifer based on the Lucifer character Gaiman created. I read it last year and its great.

Infernally seconded.

Ooh, I'm a big fan of Carey's Felix Castor series so I'll definitely have to check this out!

QuickTidal, on 31 March 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. I've never been a big comic reader (when I was younger I'd stick to books, because you got more time reading for your money) so it was one of my first proper ventures into the medium as well. There were definitely weaker bits here and there, and there are some aspects of Gaiman's writing that I don't like in general, but mostly I was too busy enjoying the experience to really notice. I was given the first couple of volumes several years back, but didn't get around to reading the rest until just now. Other than that one delay I really raced through them though! If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

He also recently did a short mini-series called SANDMAN: OVERTURE, which is what it sounds like...a prequel. It's solid, if not ever reaching the dizzying highs of the main original series.

I'll probably pick it up then . If you've read it, is Endless Nights similarly worthwhile?

[QuickTidal]

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

I'll probably pick it up then . If you've read it, is Endless Nights similarly worthwhile?

If you liked the main SANDMAN series, for sure. Each section is focused on a different Endless, and features different art styles…but yeah, I found it a good volume. But then I was collecting the ABSOLUTE SANDMAN volumes, so I read it right after the main series…so maybe that coloured my enjoyment? Anyways. Solid stuff as I enjoyed the other Endless….except Delirium who so often was hard to understand as she went on.

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 31 March 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

I'll probably pick it up then . If you've read it, is Endless Nights similarly worthwhile?

If you liked the main SANDMAN series, for sure. Each section is focused on a different Endless, and features different art styles…but yeah, I found it a good volume. But then I was collecting the ABSOLUTE SANDMAN volumes, so I read it right after the main series…so maybe that coloured my enjoyment? Anyways. Solid stuff as I enjoyed the other Endless….except Delirium who so often was hard to understand as she went on.

tHE delIRIum yrots NI ENdless NIGhtS is POSsibLY ONe of the besteESTIEST things EVEVeR written ever.

[amphibian]

Pick up the Japanese style Sandman Dream Hunters with Yoshitaka Amano, Endless Nights, and Lucifer.

Cain and Abel is fun, but not as essential. Lucifer is the most important to read because Carey goes farther and deeper into ugly/cosmic things than Gaiman. He's much more about the epic scale of things, while Gaiman likes telling more personal stories.

[Abyss]

amphibian, on 31 March 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Pick up the Japanese style Sandman Dream Hunters with Yoshitaka Amano, Endless Nights, and Lucifer.

Cain and Abel is fun, but not as essential. Lucifer is the most important to read because Carey goes farther and deeper into ugly/cosmic things than Gaiman. He's much more about the epic scale of things, while Gaiman likes telling more personal stories.

Agreed on all points, and DREAM HUNTERS is a beautiful beautiful piece of work.

[polishgenius]

There's also a couple of Death-centered standalone stories (which also bring back some characters from Sandman) and they're fun too.



As for other comics: you need Warren Ellis in your life (Transmetropolitan probably being the key work). Also Grant Morrison, although more cautiously because while when he's brilliant he's amazing, he can go trying a bit too hard to be out-there. Start with his run on Animal Man, or WE3 for a short standalone.


And, of course, there's Alan Moore.

[Abyss]

Grief, on 31 March 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

Just finished the main series of Gaiman's Sandman, which I really enjoyed. ... If anyone has recommendations for whether any of the spin-off type comics are worth reading -- or indeed comic recommendations in general, since it's a whole world I've really not explored -- I'd be happy to hear them.

polishgenius, on 31 March 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

There's also a couple of Death-centered standalone stories (which also bring back some characters from Sandman) and they're fun too.

As for other comics: you need Warren Ellis in your life (Transmetropolitan probably being the key work). Also Grant Morrison, although more cautiously because while when he's brilliant he's amazing, he can go trying a bit too hard to be out-there. Start with his run on Animal Man, or WE3 for a short standalone.

And, of course, there's Alan Moore.

Right this way sir...

[worry]

Finished Mount Char. Pretty awesome, esp. for a debut. It's always very good, and sometimes even great. And yeah it sticks the landing.

Spoiler

Also kind of a bold move to do the action climax 3/4 in, and then spend the final quarter on non-action stuff like revelation and personal growth. It was exactly the right decision and I really appreciated it.

[Mentalist]

Finished "Magic Slays". Good fun, naturally I want moar.

For the next commute read, think I'll finally do the "Bitter Seeds" re-read before jumping into "The Coldest War"

[Andorion]

Briar King, on 01 April 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

Wow enjoying It so much! Already on pg 53 of this beast which is major for me to do these days. I had forgotten how much I loved pre 99 King writing. I keep reading mentions of a Turtle... DT (Beams ref)???

Are you reading IT? I started reading it many years back but never finished. Its a huge book.

[WinterPhoenix]

Briar King, on 01 April 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

Wow enjoying It so much! Already on pg 53 of this beast which is major for me to do these days. I had forgotten how much I loved pre 99 King writing. I keep reading mentions of a Turtle... DT (Beams ref)???

Oh man just wait for the fucking cosmic turtle man, the book just gets better man I promise

[Traveller]

When I read it and he started on about beams, deadlights and turtles I had zero idea what he was on about.

[Abyss]

Briar King, on 01 April 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

Andorion, on 01 April 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

Briar King, on 01 April 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

Wow enjoying It so much! Already on pg 53 of this beast which is major for me to do these days. I had forgotten how much I loved pre 99 King writing. I keep reading mentions of a Turtle... DT (Beams ref)???

Are you reading IT? I started reading it many years back but never finished. Its a huge book.

Fuck yes I am! I've only read about 3 pgs of Safehold today since I dug it out and 1 sentence of Expanse 5(just to fulfill my goal of reading a bit in it each day)

On pg 60.

On pg 83. But done for the night. Ambien kicked in. I haven't read like that in a long time. Hoping for more of that tomorrow.

You're reading SAFEHOLD, and EXPANSE, and also IT?....damn you are in for some trippy dreams in a few days. Let us know when Pennywise takes over the space station and starts quoting Sun Tzu