[Macros]

You're currently reading HoC, therefore this is the place to mention it.

If you've questions or spoilers about it I'd say head up to the dedicated forum

[Maark Abbott]

HOHO. You are here, Stylo.

:jigglewobblanket:

I am almost finished with Rejoice. D4 dice roll had chosen Lord Foul's Bane as my next read.

[QuickTidal]

DRAGON PRINCE by Melaine Rawn (an author I really enjoy), is fucking terrible. I only got 100 pages in...but woof...

Moving onto something else.

[Maark Abbott]

QuickTidal, on 10 March 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

DRAGON PRINCE by Melaine Rawn (an author I really enjoy), is fucking terrible. I only got 100 pages in...but woof...

Moving onto something else.

I remember that book. Heh, very much formative fantasy for me. One character in particular has a most agreeable amount of A in their name.

Finished Rejoice. I really enjoyed it, but I can see why those with politically incorrect views might have not.

Next up is Lord Foul's Bane.

[QuickTidal]

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

[Maark Abbott]

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

I have DNF'd that series. You couldn't pay me to read Kellanved's Speed after how bad Deadhouse Speeding was. We are nearly talking Stormbad levels of analacrity here.

[Abyss]

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 08:34 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 10 March 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

DRAGON PRINCE by Melaine Rawn (an author I really enjoy), is fucking terrible. I only got 100 pages in...but woof...

Moving onto something else.

I remember that book. Heh, very much formative fantasy for me. One character in particular has a most agreeable amount of A in their name.

...

I don't think you're depriving yourself of anything.

The series as a whole isn't bad as entry level fantasy. The characters are fairly archetypical, the plots basic even for when it was written, minimal action, uninteresting dragons for the most part, but the magic is interesting and the story takes a few surprisingly dark turns. Some of the characters evolve beyond their tropes. DRAGON PRINCE as book 1 is very very basic. But for a few sex related twists it would be very YA if released today.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

I have DNF'd that series. You couldn't pay me to read Kellanved's Speed after how bad Deadhouse Speeding was. We are nearly talking Stormbad levels of analacrity here.

I got deja vu reading this. I think you've posted this comment verbatim before.

[QuickTidal]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 11 March 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

I have DNF'd that series. You couldn't pay me to read Kellanved's Speed after how bad Deadhouse Speeding was. We are nearly talking Stormbad levels of analacrity here.

I got deja vu reading this. I think you've posted this comment verbatim before.

He has, I very nearly posted an edit on my own original post that said "Waiting for Maark to chime in how he hates it", glad to know I wasn't wrong.

If you mention this series or the Stormlight Archives, he appears like friggin Beetlejuice to tell you how awful he thinks they are.

Maark, my man, let it go.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

...

Maark, my man, let it go.

Honestly, enough already.



...btw Tigana sucks, The Black Company is overrated, so is Lord of the Rings, Otherland was a great trilogy, Memory Sorrow and Thorn should have been called Memory Sorrow and Thorn and Fucking Singing Elves, and Terry Goodkind makes my eyes bleed.

[Aptorian]

Let's talk about Star Wars Episode 8 next. And transformers 2. And how good the sex and the city films were.

[Tiste Simeon]

You just made me realise I haven't read Kellanved's Reach yet. Definitely going to get round to it.

[QuickTidal]

Tiste Simeon, on 11 March 2020 - 09:38 PM, said:

You just made me realise I haven't read Kellanved's Reach yet. Definitely going to get round to it.

Barrelled through about 70 pages so far, fantastic stuff!

[JPK]

Finally started The Fold. Been meaning to get this one for awhile. Been great so far, and I just came across the first hint that it's involved with 14.

Spoiler

The note about the green bugs infesting the machinery.

[Maark Abbott]

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 08:34 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 10 March 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

DRAGON PRINCE by Melaine Rawn (an author I really enjoy), is fucking terrible. I only got 100 pages in...but woof...

Moving onto something else.

I remember that book. Heh, very much formative fantasy for me. One character in particular has a most agreeable amount of A in their name.

...

I don't think you're depriving yourself of anything.

The series as a whole isn't bad as entry level fantasy. The characters are fairly archetypical, the plots basic even for when it was written, minimal action, uninteresting dragons for the most part, but the magic is interesting and the story takes a few surprisingly dark turns. Some of the characters evolve beyond their tropes. DRAGON PRINCE as book 1 is very very basic. But for a few sex related twists it would be very YA if released today.

This is pretty accurate. The second trilogy however goes full on narm by trying to ham-fistedly force real world issues into a fantasy book.

Spoiler

"But abortion is WRONG!" screamed Andry, in a world where the term has literally never been used up until this sentence

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 11 March 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

I have DNF'd that series. You couldn't pay me to read Kellanved's Speed after how bad Deadhouse Speeding was. We are nearly talking Stormbad levels of analacrity here.

I got deja vu reading this. I think you've posted this comment verbatim before.

Probably. I am consistent. It's a good trait.

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 11 March 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 11 March 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 12:41 PM, said:

Finally (no one scold me) KELLANVED'S REACH. Realized it was in the ToReadPile...and was like "Wait, WTF haven't I read it yet?"

So I'm naturally enjoying that! Maybe after that I'll dive into the MBF re-read too.

I have DNF'd that series. You couldn't pay me to read Kellanved's Speed after how bad Deadhouse Speeding was. We are nearly talking Stormbad levels of analacrity here.

I got deja vu reading this. I think you've posted this comment verbatim before.

He has, I very nearly posted an edit on my own original post that said "Waiting for Maark to chime in how he hates it", glad to know I wasn't wrong.

If you mention this series or the Stormlight Archives, he appears like friggin Beetlejuice to tell you how awful he thinks they are.

Maark, my man, let it go.

Daga kotowaru. The stormriders would come over the wall if I left up for even a second. Maybe don't say my name into a mirror five times again, I fucking hate bees.

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

...

Maark, my man, let it go.

Honestly, enough already.



...btw Tigana sucks, The Black Company is overrated, so is Lord of the Rings, Otherland was a great trilogy, Memory Sorrow and Thorn should have been called Memory Sorrow and Thorn and Fucking Singing Elves, and Terry Goodkind makes my eyes bleed.

The Wheel moves in cycles, and this doggerel is ever and always the same. I am bound to my role, as you are to your own. It will be the same next turning, and the one after that.

Do agree that Black Company was overrated.

Mostly what makes me incessantly cross about Rush to Ascendancy is what a wasted opportunity it was. There was so much scope for rich backstory and instead we got Jeremy Clarkson in a Bugatti Veyron gunning for maximum speed whilst loudly shouting.

[Maark Abbott]

Anyway, to Isengard. Or rather what I am reading.

Thomas Covenant seems interesting so far. I rather like the choice of words in use here. Initial setup reeks of isekai but that's fine. Only about a half hour train ride in so early days yet.

[Abyss]

Maark Abbott, on 12 March 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

...

I don't think you're depriving yourself of anything.

The series as a whole isn't bad as entry level fantasy. The characters are fairly archetypical, the plots basic even for when it was written, minimal action, uninteresting dragons for the most part, but the magic is interesting and the story takes a few surprisingly dark turns. Some of the characters evolve beyond their tropes. DRAGON PRINCE as book 1 is very very basic. But for a few sex related twists it would be very YA if released today.

This is pretty accurate. The second trilogy however goes full on narm by trying to ham-fistedly force real world issues into a fantasy book.

Spoiler

"But abortion is WRONG!" screamed Andry, in a world where the term has literally never been used up until this sentence

The second trilo ups the stakes, except not really because while the new baddies (all of them) do present more of a threat than what we had back in the first trilo, there is always this lack of stakes... i just never bought that the good guys could ever even potentially lose. I suppose for a young reader that's actually kind of comforting, but for most i suspect it's offputting.

And that bit you spoilered was brutal writing. I was young when i read this trilo and even then i nearly threw the book away.

Maark Abbott, on 12 March 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

...

Maark, my man, let it go.

Honestly, enough already.



...btw Tigana sucks, The Black Company is overrated, so is Lord of the Rings, Otherland was a great trilogy, Memory Sorrow and Thorn should have been called Memory Sorrow and Thorn and Fucking Singing Elves, and Terry Goodkind makes my eyes bleed.

The Wheel moves in cycles, and this doggerel is ever and always the same. I am bound to my role, as you are to your own. It will be the same next turning, and the one after that.

Do agree that Black Company was overrated.
...

All of this has happened before and will happen again.


But really it's more your sheer level of venom that's prompts comment more than the mere fact you are cold and dead inside dislike something a bunch of forumites who are all smarter, nicer, and better smelling than you quite enjoyed. We're hardly a unanimous bunch.... look at the GIDEON THE NINTH thread before we had a bunch of peoples' minds wiped .


....and Black Company is TOTALLY overrated.

[JPK]

Hey Abyss, re: The Fold

Spoiler

Do you think the Patchwork Man = Andrew?

[Maark Abbott]

Abyss, on 12 March 2020 - 03:02 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 12 March 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

...

I don't think you're depriving yourself of anything.

The series as a whole isn't bad as entry level fantasy. The characters are fairly archetypical, the plots basic even for when it was written, minimal action, uninteresting dragons for the most part, but the magic is interesting and the story takes a few surprisingly dark turns. Some of the characters evolve beyond their tropes. DRAGON PRINCE as book 1 is very very basic. But for a few sex related twists it would be very YA if released today.

This is pretty accurate. The second trilogy however goes full on narm by trying to ham-fistedly force real world issues into a fantasy book.

Spoiler

"But abortion is WRONG!" screamed Andry, in a world where the term has literally never been used up until this sentence

The second trilo ups the stakes, except not really because while the new baddies (all of them) do present more of a threat than what we had back in the first trilo, there is always this lack of stakes... i just never bought that the good guys could ever even potentially lose. I suppose for a young reader that's actually kind of comforting, but for most i suspect it's offputting.

And that bit you spoilered was brutal writing. I was young when i read this trilo and even then i nearly threw the book away.

Maark Abbott, on 12 March 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 March 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 11 March 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

...

Maark, my man, let it go.

Honestly, enough already.



...btw Tigana sucks, The Black Company is overrated, so is Lord of the Rings, Otherland was a great trilogy, Memory Sorrow and Thorn should have been called Memory Sorrow and Thorn and Fucking Singing Elves, and Terry Goodkind makes my eyes bleed.

The Wheel moves in cycles, and this doggerel is ever and always the same. I am bound to my role, as you are to your own. It will be the same next turning, and the one after that.

Do agree that Black Company was overrated.
...

All of this has happened before and will happen again.


But really it's more your sheer level of venom that's prompts comment more than the mere fact you are cold and dead inside dislike something a bunch of forumites who are all smarter, nicer, and better smelling than you quite enjoyed. We're hardly a unanimous bunch.... look at the GIDEON THE NINTH thread before we had a bunch of peoples' minds wiped .


....and Black Company is TOTALLY overrated.

- RE Rawn, I don't remember the specifics of the bit in question but I do recall that the quote in question broke the SOD quite heavily.

Anyway, yes, I am leper unclean outcast cold and dead inside, and vitriol is generally my forward driver. No wonder I am enjoying Thomas Covenant so far. That said I am waiting for him to say WORT WORT WORT. When does he say this.

My venom is not only justified but vindicated by the subject matter. For me to be so grouchy about something, it really has to go out of its way to be horrifically bad. Do the Guard ever cease protecting against the Riders? They do not. A heavy duty falls to me and I intend to see it through.

I might read Gideon at some point but I am intensely mindful that the last two megahyped books (Way of Being Bad, and Kings of the Every Fucking Tired D&D Trope Ever) I read went to very high positions on my shitlist, so I am wary.

[QuickTidal]

On a brighter note, KELLANVED'S REACH is wonderful as of the 150 page mark!

I SHOULD be ready to join the Board Re-read by HOUSE OF CHAINS time....which is good because that's where I was in my own re-read a few months back anyways. Huzzah!