[Blend]

I don't know how you expected to have enough to take his HW given all the ships in your home system are locked down, and all the ones not in your home system are cruisers.

You'd have to get through a fuckload of ships just to take Quann, you wouldn't even make it past that step.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

Blend, it will not score me a point to attack Twelve's homeworld, could I move through your ships to do that? It will leave IH to Khell and yourself if possible.

No, the deal is Aether abilities are free to anyone doing something to stop IH.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

Blend, it will not score me a point to attack Twelve's homeworld, could I move through your ships to do that? It will leave IH to Khell and yourself if possible.

I won't attack IH just to give you the victory, I'd rather Twelve takes it. You need to lose a VP for me to help with extending the game.

[Imperial Historian]

The suspense is killing me

[Tattersail_]

This is a game making decision, so I am taking my time with it. There is pro's and cons to each move.

[Tattersail_]

What SO's PO's can Khell score? I don't think he can score an SO so is there 2 VP he can score?

[Tattersail_]

I also don't think IH can score 2 1 VP PO's but I'll lose my chance at a victory. I cannot score in action phase if I do this move.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 03:30 PM, said:

What SO's PO's can Khell score? I don't think he can score an SO so is there 2 VP he can score?

Khell can score a PO (have 8 production in one system) and an SO (have 3 space docks) currently. He could also potentially score the have 3 ships in edge of the board systems.

I can also potentially score both those PO's and I have SO's in hand.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 03:30 PM, said:

What SO's PO's can Khell score? I don't think he can score an SO so is there 2 VP he can score?

Khell can score a PO (have 8 production in one system) and an SO (have 3 space docks) currently. He could also potentially score the have 3 ships in edge of the board systems.

I can also potentially score both those PO's and I have SO's in hand.

I was looking at the 6 CT PO and seeing whether I can afford to attack you and still score that. It is a possibility.

I am trying to see whether I will succeed in taking a planet off of you and keeping the 6 CT's.

[Imperial Historian]

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 07 April 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

But if Tatts and Khell have a guaranteed win condition, which they would, seriously why would I? This isn't manipulation, if I don't see a way to win myself I'm not going to steal the win from you.

If there was some doubt, yes I would totally try and eliminate you, Morgoth possibly winning with 2VP and an SO is probable but not certain, but both Khell and Tatts have clear ways to win which can't be stopped so I'd just be kingmaking between you and them.

[Khellendros]

Stop IH now, convince him to conquer Twelve later.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:50 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 April 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

But if Tatts and Khell have a guaranteed win condition, which they would, seriously why would I? This isn't manipulation, if I don't see a way to win myself I'm not going to steal the win from you.

If there was some doubt, yes I would totally try and eliminate you, Morgoth possibly winning with 2VP and an SO is probable but not certain, but both Khell and Tatts have clear ways to win which can't be stopped so I'd just be kingmaking between you and them.

And there is doubt, so long as Tatts stops you without being able to hold on to 6CTs. My VP possibilites can also be stopped this round.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 04:59 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:50 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 April 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

But if Tatts and Khell have a guaranteed win condition, which they would, seriously why would I? This isn't manipulation, if I don't see a way to win myself I'm not going to steal the win from you.

If there was some doubt, yes I would totally try and eliminate you, Morgoth possibly winning with 2VP and an SO is probable but not certain, but both Khell and Tatts have clear ways to win which can't be stopped so I'd just be kingmaking between you and them.

And there is doubt, so long as Tatts stops you without being able to hold on to 6CTs. My VP possibilites can also be stopped this round.

Yeah but tatts isn't going to stop me unless he can hang on to 6 CTs and I don't think your VP possibilities can be stopped if you play smart. All you need to do is move your space dock into the asteroid field. Guaranteed 2vp. And if you don't do that I'm not sure anyone has the ships to reach bakal and defeat you.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 06:54 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 04:59 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:50 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 April 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

But if Tatts and Khell have a guaranteed win condition, which they would, seriously why would I? This isn't manipulation, if I don't see a way to win myself I'm not going to steal the win from you.

If there was some doubt, yes I would totally try and eliminate you, Morgoth possibly winning with 2VP and an SO is probable but not certain, but both Khell and Tatts have clear ways to win which can't be stopped so I'd just be kingmaking between you and them.

And there is doubt, so long as Tatts stops you without being able to hold on to 6CTs. My VP possibilites can also be stopped this round.

Yeah but tatts isn't going to stop me unless he can hang on to 6 CTs and I don't think your VP possibilities can be stopped if you play smart. All you need to do is move your space dock into the asteroid field. Guaranteed 2vp. And if you don't do that I'm not sure anyone has the ships to reach bakal and defeat you.

One bad AC stops me quite easily. In any case, maybe let’s focus on the first favourite to win rather than the fourth or fifth

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 08:00 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 06:54 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 04:59 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:50 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 April 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 April 2021 - 04:04 PM, said:

I mean it's possible, but then you are relying on me to take twelve's homeworld to allow you to win, and why would I do that after you have betrayed our alliance?

Because you want to still win which by stopping me you still have a chance to do. Stop this line if manipulation immediately good sir.

But if Tatts and Khell have a guaranteed win condition, which they would, seriously why would I? This isn't manipulation, if I don't see a way to win myself I'm not going to steal the win from you.

If there was some doubt, yes I would totally try and eliminate you, Morgoth possibly winning with 2VP and an SO is probable but not certain, but both Khell and Tatts have clear ways to win which can't be stopped so I'd just be kingmaking between you and them.

And there is doubt, so long as Tatts stops you without being able to hold on to 6CTs. My VP possibilites can also be stopped this round.

Yeah but tatts isn't going to stop me unless he can hang on to 6 CTs and I don't think your VP possibilities can be stopped if you play smart. All you need to do is move your space dock into the asteroid field. Guaranteed 2vp. And if you don't do that I'm not sure anyone has the ships to reach bakal and defeat you.

One bad AC stops me quite easily. In any case, maybe let’s focus on the first favourite to win rather than the fourth or fifth

Yes there is a single action card that could stop you, which it is unlikely anyone has as they would have used it last round to stop me.

[Imperial Historian]

Come on tatts make a move!

[Morgoth]

Release your inner berserker tatts! You must do something to improve your chances at winning!

[Tattersail_]

I could not find a way into which I could honestly attack IH. 😫

Truth be told he's held up to his side of the alliance all game. I'm not breaking that relationship.

If I could have done it and won I world have like with Khell earlier on.