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Twilight Imperium VII: Revelations - Chatty Thread

#2441 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 25 March 2021 - 07:13 PM

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View PostBlend, on 25 March 2021 - 01:30 PM, said:

PoK Battle Calculator finally exists!

https://ti4odds.herokuapp.com/



Nice find! A bit more basic than the original one, but I immediately fully and blindly trust its outcomes. And some interesting results indeed :)


I'm sure everyone else has noticed that Tatts has never been this quiet in his life. Nothing to say on the current conversation? I take it you have no intention of doing or contributing anything?



Why would tatts say anything, if he stays quiet you might let him win by default ;)
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Posted 25 March 2021 - 08:59 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 25 March 2021 - 07:13 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 25 March 2021 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 25 March 2021 - 01:30 PM, said:

PoK Battle Calculator finally exists!

https://ti4odds.herokuapp.com/



Nice find! A bit more basic than the original one, but I immediately fully and blindly trust its outcomes. And some interesting results indeed :)


I'm sure everyone else has noticed that Tatts has never been this quiet in his life. Nothing to say on the current conversation? I take it you have no intention of doing or contributing anything?



Why would tatts say anything, if he stays quiet you might let him win by default ;)



If he stays quiet, he definitely won't be winning.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:06 PM

So anyway,

Twelve: I think the best bet is for you to take Mirage this turn

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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:08 PM

In the meantime, I will contemplate attacking Tatts/using some tasty ACs I’ve been saving up just out of spite at his continued silence. All I want is your input, not a promise of anything - as we all know we can’t rely on those from you.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:15 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

In the meantime, I will contemplate attacking Tatts/using some tasty ACs I’ve been saving up just out of spite at his continued silence. All I want is your input, not a promise of anything - as we all know we can’t rely on those from you.


Nice cross post batman. I haven't used many action cards either don't you know.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We’ve moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM

Oh yeah, cross post sure ;)
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:35 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We’ve moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?



I've given the use of my agent to Twelve?
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:41 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We’ve moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?



I've given the use of my agent to Twelve?


Fuck me Tatts, why do we have to go through the whole dance but by bit. Just answer the whole bloody question in its entirety. Don’t make me post a separate post each time - what about AC? What about trades? Etc etc.

And no you have not because Twelve did not go through with that move. I don’t think he’ll need your agent to take Mirage either. I think there are better ways to use it.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:43 PM

At the moment you are finishing a distant third. I don’t see what you have to lose by assisting others in hurting some of your competitors.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:10 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:43 PM, said:

At the moment you are finishing a distant third. I don’t see what you have to lose by assisting others in hurting some of your competitors.


You should know by now that Tatts never does things he doesn't perceive as helping him. Heck, most of the time he actively destroys his own game.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:24 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We've moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?



I've given the use of my agent to Twelve?


Fuck me Tatts, why do we have to go through the whole dance but by bit. Just answer the whole bloody question in its entirety. Don't make me post a separate post each time - what about AC? What about trades? Etc etc.

And no you have not because Twelve did not go through with that move. I don't think he'll need your agent to take Mirage either. I think there are better ways to use it.


Well obviously I will help out in anyway I can that does not mean I am directly going to activate IH's systems.

AC's I have are mostly defensive capabilities. I do have an AC that makes alpha and beta wormholes the same but that's of no use and we cannot transfer AC's anyway.

I'm trading with Blend anyway, are you needing me to trade with you?

I'll also be helping with my tactical genius ha, how do you make distant third. If IH wins in action phase I'll come second. If he doesn't then I do have plans that may make me a winner obviously. That's why we are playing the game. I think I have 2 shots to do what I need to do to win, depending on outcomes of various plans. I also think Morgoth has a plan.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:43 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 02:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We've moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?



I've given the use of my agent to Twelve?


Fuck me Tatts, why do we have to go through the whole dance but by bit. Just answer the whole bloody question in its entirety. Don't make me post a separate post each time - what about AC? What about trades? Etc etc.

And no you have not because Twelve did not go through with that move. I don't think he'll need your agent to take Mirage either. I think there are better ways to use it.


Well obviously I will help out in anyway I can that does not mean I am directly going to activate IH's systems.

AC's I have are mostly defensive capabilities. I do have an AC that makes alpha and beta wormholes the same but that's of no use and we cannot transfer AC's anyway.

I'm trading with Blend anyway, are you needing me to trade with you?

I'll also be helping with my tactical genius ha, how do you make distant third. If IH wins in action phase I'll come second. If he doesn't then I do have plans that may make me a winner obviously. That's why we are playing the game. I think I have 2 shots to do what I need to do to win, depending on outcomes of various plans. I also think Morgoth has a plan.


Making alpha/beta wormholes the same is a potentially interesting one. Can you use that on someone else's turn or do you have to use it on your own?

Yes, I was thinking of activating Trade, but I would need someone to swap commodities with. It would help quite a bit in any IH-based shenanigans I might resort to.

You'll come third because if IH wins in the action phase with Imperial, then Twelve comes second with Leadership in status, then you with Diplo. As far as I know, you have no way to win in the action phase, save for that Morgoth 'trap' you were trying out ;) But perhaps I'm wrong (it's been known).
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:43 PM

But yes, it would now also help to know what Morgoth is willing/unwilling to consider.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:51 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 02:43 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 02:24 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 March 2021 - 01:09 PM, said:

I won't be attacking IH. I've looked it over and I don't see a benefit to me other than making someone else win.

Morgoth has kept mum so has his own plans. As it stands it looks as I'll be coming second.


We've moved past you attacking IH. But what about helping in other ways, like Agent, action cards, swapping commodities etc.?



I've given the use of my agent to Twelve?


Fuck me Tatts, why do we have to go through the whole dance but by bit. Just answer the whole bloody question in its entirety. Don't make me post a separate post each time - what about AC? What about trades? Etc etc.

And no you have not because Twelve did not go through with that move. I don't think he'll need your agent to take Mirage either. I think there are better ways to use it.


Well obviously I will help out in anyway I can that does not mean I am directly going to activate IH's systems.

AC's I have are mostly defensive capabilities. I do have an AC that makes alpha and beta wormholes the same but that's of no use and we cannot transfer AC's anyway.

I'm trading with Blend anyway, are you needing me to trade with you?

I'll also be helping with my tactical genius ha, how do you make distant third. If IH wins in action phase I'll come second. If he doesn't then I do have plans that may make me a winner obviously. That's why we are playing the game. I think I have 2 shots to do what I need to do to win, depending on outcomes of various plans. I also think Morgoth has a plan.


Making alpha/beta wormholes the same is a potentially interesting one. Can you use that on someone else's turn or do you have to use it on your own?

Yes, I was thinking of activating Trade, but I would need someone to swap commodities with. It would help quite a bit in any IH-based shenanigans I might resort to.

You'll come third because if IH wins in the action phase with Imperial, then Twelve comes second with Leadership in status, then you with Diplo. As far as I know, you have no way to win in the action phase, save for that Morgoth 'trap' you were trying out ;) But perhaps I'm wrong (it's been known).


If IH wins in action phase the game ends.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 03:02 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 02:43 PM, said:

Making alpha/beta wormholes the same is a potentially interesting one. Can you use that on someone else's turn or do you have to use it on your own?

Yes, I was thinking of activating Trade, but I would need someone to swap commodities with. It would help quite a bit in any IH-based shenanigans I might resort to.

You'll come third because if IH wins in the action phase with Imperial, then Twelve comes second with Leadership in status, then you with Diplo. As far as I know, you have no way to win in the action phase, save for that Morgoth 'trap' you were trying out ;) But perhaps I'm wrong (it's been known).



I can swap out your commodities.

Also, if IH wins in action phase, the game ends and Tatts is 2nd place.
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 03:18 PM

Yes, I am aware of that rule, but we’ve always gone on to post our final status updates anyway as far as I remember :p
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 03:19 PM

And thanks Blend, that would be appreciated
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Posted 26 March 2021 - 03:20 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 26 March 2021 - 03:18 PM, said:

Yes, I am aware of that rule, but we’ve always gone on to post our final status updates anyway as far as I remember :p


Actually, that's not true in cases where the win took place in the Action Phase and Drek made it clear last game she modded that as soon as a win is attained, the game ends. Period. So no backend scoring.

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