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#1861 User is offline   Blend 

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:28 PM

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Another lesson learned - aetherstream is now a strong contender for best tech. It would have been good if it was just your ships, the fact you can use it for yourself and any of your neighbours. Crazy good. I think mirror computing is still slightly better for it's ability to scoop up those late game VPs, but wow.



Aetherstream is OP in my view and makes getting around too easy for too many people. The bit I have most issue with is the 'adjacent to an anomaly' bit of the text - maybe it's our map, but pretty much everything is adjacent to an anomaly, there's hardly any limitation on using it. It makes a joke out of considering movement limitations, previously a significant tactical part of the game.


I think my "just let pretty much anyone use it" style of dishing it out has certainly not helped. I think I'd probably put a standard fee on its use in any future games I might play as Empyrean. Cause being able to move pretty much anywhere on the map on any given turn has been one of the more fun things I've been able to do. But I've also had to leave my home pretty much undefended to do what I've done this game. I wanted to really push the Empyrean as far as I could, though, so that included taking big risks. I've quite enjoyed them and think that I might play them again someday.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:33 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 06:28 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2021 - 06:23 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 06:19 PM, said:

Another lesson learned - aetherstream is now a strong contender for best tech. It would have been good if it was just your ships, the fact you can use it for yourself and any of your neighbours. Crazy good. I think mirror computing is still slightly better for it's ability to scoop up those late game VPs, but wow.



Aetherstream is OP in my view and makes getting around too easy for too many people. The bit I have most issue with is the 'adjacent to an anomaly' bit of the text - maybe it's our map, but pretty much everything is adjacent to an anomaly, there's hardly any limitation on using it. It makes a joke out of considering movement limitations, previously a significant tactical part of the game.


I think my "just let pretty much anyone use it" style of dishing it out has certainly not helped. I think I'd probably put a standard fee on its use in any future games I might play as Empyrean. Cause being able to move pretty much anywhere on the map on any given turn has been one of the more fun things I've been able to do. But I've also had to leave my home pretty much undefended to do what I've done this game. I wanted to really push the Empyrean as far as I could, though, so that included taking big risks. I've quite enjoyed them and think that I might play them again someday.


I think it's probably helped you, it certainly makes attacking you less attractive when you lose that extra movement capability.

I hadn't considered moving into an anomaly wasn't affected, interesting!
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 06:54 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


Stop whining. You're the one who brought this on yourself.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:07 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 06:54 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


Stop whining. You're the one who brought this on yourself.

Actually your "bright" idea to blackmail me was ill conceived in the first place. It never made any sense. You had every opportunity to take Polics in the first place. Then you broke a deal with me and expected me to trust to to hold a deal. No I didnt bring this on myself. You shoved it down my throat. I was in a damned if I do, Damned if I dont situation. Attacking Morgoth this round is still in yours and frankly my best Interest. I'm still holding out hope you will come to your senses and do the smart thing. IH will probably take my homeworld next round if you dont this so you dont need to worry about me winning anyway.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:14 PM

Here's Twelve: "It's always a great idea if I do it, but damn it's a dumb idea if anyone else does it!!"

You should have just made me speaker rather than forced me to keep my promise to fuck your game. This is YOUR fault.

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:18 PM

Oh, here's Twelve again: "You broke a deal we made in the very first round of the game that was probably never going to last, so I'm going to get on this high horse and then pretend like breaking a deal is okay for me because you did it first. NYAHHH"
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:20 PM

Blend: Make me speaker or I'll ruin your game.
Twelve: *makes himself speaker*
Blend: I'm going to ruin your game!
Twelve:

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:33 PM

It's kind of funny, his avatar looks like a sarcastically surprised jaguar too.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 08:06 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 07:33 PM, said:

It's kind of funny, his avatar looks like a sarcastically surprised jaguar too.

(Huge exaggerated eye roll)

I accepted you were going to go through with your threat. I just think you were stupid to threaten me in the first place. Your stated goal is to extend the game. Attacking me instead of Morgoth says otherwise.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:08 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 08:06 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 07:33 PM, said:

It's kind of funny, his avatar looks like a sarcastically surprised jaguar too.

(Huge exaggerated eye roll)

I accepted you were going to go through with your threat. I just think you were stupid to threaten me in the first place. Your stated goal is to extend the game. Attacking me instead of Morgoth says otherwise.


It's a shame you called me on my threat, eh?
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:14 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 09:08 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 08:06 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 07:33 PM, said:

It's kind of funny, his avatar looks like a sarcastically surprised jaguar too.

(Huge exaggerated eye roll)

I accepted you were going to go through with your threat. I just think you were stupid to threaten me in the first place. Your stated goal is to extend the game. Attacking me instead of Morgoth says otherwise.


It's a shame you called me on my threat, eh?


I'm still secretly praying it's all a bluff but I'm looking at the board and with the blowy blowy ability gone I feel somewhat confident I'll still have my homeworld intact and in my possession when the round ends.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:16 PM

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


To be fair twelve, if you weren't attacked you would be at 7/8 points with first pick of strategies, holding rex with scorable 1 VP PO's. In other words prime position to win. And you can still easily put down more structures and score 2VP this round if Blend fails to take your homeworld.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:17 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 09:16 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


To be fair twelve, if you weren't attacked you would be at 7/8 points with first pick of strategies, holding rex with scorable 1 VP PO's. In other words prime position to win. And you can still easily put down more structures and score 2VP this round if Blend fails to take your homeworld.


How?!

Construction has already been played, how can he build more? Is it one of his fancy new Winnu abilities?
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:21 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 09:17 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 09:16 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


To be fair twelve, if you weren't attacked you would be at 7/8 points with first pick of strategies, holding rex with scorable 1 VP PO's. In other words prime position to win. And you can still easily put down more structures and score 2VP this round if Blend fails to take your homeworld.


How?!

Construction has already been played, how can he build more? Is it one of his fancy new Winnu abilities?


When he takes a world with his mechs he can build structures.

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I'm expecting him to claim mirage or primor
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:24 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 09:21 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 09:17 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2021 - 09:16 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 02 March 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:

I love how I'm in last place and will be getting double teamed by the other 2 last place players while the one in second place with Imperial and soon to be 3 secret objectives is being left totally alone.

Makes soooooo much sense.


To be fair twelve, if you weren't attacked you would be at 7/8 points with first pick of strategies, holding rex with scorable 1 VP PO's. In other words prime position to win. And you can still easily put down more structures and score 2VP this round if Blend fails to take your homeworld.


How?!

Construction has already been played, how can he build more? Is it one of his fancy new Winnu abilities?


When he takes a world with his mechs he can build structures.

ReclaimerAfter you resolve a tactical action where you gained control of this planet, you may place 1 PDS or 1 Space Dock from your reinforcements on this planetSustain Damage



I'm expecting him to claim mirage or primor


Ah, the mechs! I was looking at everything but that trying to figure it out.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:27 PM

Could he technically just take Primor, bring 3 mechs with him, and put down 2 PDS and a Space Dock all in one action?
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:29 PM

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 09:27 PM, said:

Could he technically just take Primor, bring 3 mechs with him, and put down 2 PDS and a Space Dock all in one action?


Yes

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:29 PM

Jesus. I see now why taking his HW is important.
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Posted 02 March 2021 - 09:31 PM

View PostD, on 02 March 2021 - 09:29 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 02 March 2021 - 09:27 PM, said:

Could he technically just take Primor, bring 3 mechs with him, and put down 2 PDS and a Space Dock all in one action?


Yes


Yeah I was unsure about the timing windows immediatley but it seems like every mech can place a structure.
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