[Khellendros]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 05:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?

I don't think you can retreat anywhere?

I can retreat because of the new blue starting tech I took. That was the main reason I took it but yeah I'm talking about you.

I mean, even if you agreed to giving me the majority of your PNs, which I don't think you would, it's hard to make it seem worth it to me.

I was thinking of just my support.

I'm sure you were.

[twelve]

I didnt think you would go for it but thought I would throw that out there anyway.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 05:29 PM, said:

I didnt think you would go for it but thought I would throw that out there anyway.

It's not unreasonable, it just feels like it potentially complicates things for me rather than resolving them. Anyway, this might be a complete disaster in any event!

[Imperial Historian]

I'm cheering you on Twelve! Let's see that winnu power!

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 03 February 2021 - 03:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 February 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

Does it not mean he gets commodities of everyone? Will that net him more than someone paying him 1 TG for a refresh in the end?

No, he comes out with the same because he's paying people for their Trade Agreements. So he would pay me 3TGs for my trade agreement, then gain 4TGs when I use the free refresh.

It nets him exactly the same as if we all just paid him 1 TG each for our refreshes.

What blend explained. It's actually better for you too as you don't have to worry about finding someone to swap your commodities. I think it's much simpler this way but maybe my brain is weird.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?

Yes, so did I, that's why I made what I believed was an entirely reasonable offer to stop it which would have given you rex. I am honestly still baffled that you guys didn't jump at the chance to pay me to fight Khell and risk losing my warsun.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 05:40 PM, said:

I'm cheering you on Twelve! Let's see that winnu power!

I'm retreating and with my luck even doing that I'll count myself lucky to survive with 2 capital ships.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 05:47 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 05:40 PM, said:

I'm cheering you on Twelve! Let's see that winnu power!

I'm retreating and with my luck even doing that I'll count myself lucky to survive with 2 capital ships.

Don't retreat. I'm rooting for you too.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

Blend, on 03 February 2021 - 03:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 03 February 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

Does it not mean he gets commodities of everyone? Will that net him more than someone paying him 1 TG for a refresh in the end?

No, he comes out with the same because he's paying people for their Trade Agreements. So he would pay me 3TGs for my trade agreement, then gain 4TGs when I use the free refresh.

It nets him exactly the same as if we all just paid him 1 TG each for our refreshes.

What blend explained. It's actually better for you too as you don't have to worry about finding someone to swap your commodities. I think it's much simpler this way but maybe my brain is weird.

I'll swap then. I gain 1 Tg that I wouldn't have this round.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 05:45 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?

Yes, so did I, that's why I made what I believed was an entirely reasonable offer to stop it which would have given you rex. I am honestly still baffled that you guys didn't jump at the chance to pay me to fight Khell and risk losing my warsun.

There was no way I was going to just give you my ceasefire and leave myself vulnerable to an attack from you for you to do something that also slows the game down to give a chance to win as well. I was willing to swap if you were afraid I'd attack you even when it's clearly obvious I'm committed to doing something else. And your Warsun would have not been in any danger. Khells fleet would have been taken care of and there was no one else that would have had ships to even bother it. Blends offer wasn't unreasonable for the use of his ability even though I think he still should have let you use it for the same reason as it slows the game down. And frankly your Warsun is in more danger where it's at especially because you took it from someone else. If I were Morgoth and Blend I'd be wanting that gone yesterday.

[D'rek]

Nvm, fixed

This post has been edited by D'rek: 03 February 2021 - 06:02 PM

[Imperial Historian]

I made it as 1 in 5 odds I'd lose the fight with khell. And I changed my offer to 3tg 1/5th the value of the ships I'd lose if I lost.

And I'm not afraid of blend and morgoths puny fleets:p

[twelve]

Shouldn't I also have hit with my cruiser and all 3 of my fighters with my commander +2 ability?

[twelve]

And of course Khell had a direct hit.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

Shouldn't I also have hit with my cruiser and all 3 of my fighters with my commander +2 ability?

Oh yeaaaaaaaaah.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

Shouldn't I also have hit with my cruiser and all 3 of my fighters with my commander +2 ability?

Yeah that's what I was about to say. My Anti-Fighter Barrage went so poorly - maybe you shouldn't have retreated!

[D'rek]

Fixed it

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 06:09 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

Shouldn't I also have hit with my cruiser and all 3 of my fighters with my commander +2 ability?

Yeah that's what I was about to say. My Anti-Fighter Barrage went so poorly - maybe you shouldn't have retreated!

Why? I retreated with just my carrier and cruiser still alive just like I predicted. I was hoping for 1 of those 2 ships to be my Dread. So this is actually worse than I was wanting.

[Imperial Historian]

So tatts and twelve are in for trade agreement - 1 swaps. Blend isn't? Morgoth?

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 06:12 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 06:09 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 February 2021 - 06:08 PM, said:

Shouldn't I also have hit with my cruiser and all 3 of my fighters with my commander +2 ability?

Yeah that's what I was about to say. My Anti-Fighter Barrage went so poorly - maybe you shouldn't have retreated!

Why? I retreated with just my carrier and cruiser still alive just like I predicted. I was hoping for 1 of those 2 ships to be my Dread. So this is actually worse than I was wanting.

Well, I mean, you shouldn't have retreated AND you shouldn't have sustained damage on your dread