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Twilight Imperium VII: Revelations - Chatty Thread

#1181 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 03 February 2021 - 01:05 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 February 2021 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 12:58 PM, said:

You know what I just realised: Terraform also makes the planet every type - Cultural, Hazardous, Industrial.

Which means that when I played Industrial Initiative last round, I should have claimed 3 trade goods, not 2, as I didn't include my terraformed planet in that count. Doh.


Oh no, I did let you know that


Yeah, I completely forgot about it.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 02:42 PM

Card draws added. Map update in an hour or thereabouts.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 02:49 PM

Is anyone in for trade agreement for commodity value -1?

Also Morgoth I have 2 hazardous relics I'm willing to sell.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:06 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 02:49 PM, said:

Is anyone in for trade agreement for commodity value -1?

Also Morgoth I have 2 hazardous relics I'm willing to sell.


Still willing to give you a commodity in exchange for the free refresh.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:10 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 03 February 2021 - 02:49 PM, said:

Is anyone in for trade agreement for commodity value -1?


I'll take that trade I guess.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:14 PM

IH explain it to me, what's the difference between me paying you 1 TG for a free refresh and swapping commodities with you?
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:38 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 February 2021 - 03:14 PM, said:

IH explain it to me, what's the difference between me paying you 1 TG for a free refresh and swapping commodities with you?


It basically makes it binding.

You give him your Trade Agreement in exchange for a free refresh and the cost of your trade agreement - 1 in TGs (so he'd give you 1TG for your trade agreement). When it's your turn and you do your refresh, he plays the trade agreement and receives 2 TGs, thus recouping the TGs he gave you for your Trade Agreement.

In the end, it costs you the same, it's just a more complicated/convoluted way to do a "Free refresh costs 1 TG" deal.

I'm not doing it specifically because I think with all the other complicated wheeling and dealing we do, adding an extra layer of complexity to a "Pay me 1 TG for a free refresh" deal is just fucking uselessly annoying.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:45 PM

Does it not mean he gets commodities of everyone? Will that net him more than someone paying him 1 TG for a refresh in the end?
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:47 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 February 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

Does it not mean he gets commodities of everyone? Will that net him more than someone paying him 1 TG for a refresh in the end?


No, he comes out with the same because he's paying people for their Trade Agreements. So he would pay me 3TGs for my trade agreement, then gain 4TGs when I use the free refresh.

It nets him exactly the same as if we all just paid him 1 TG each for our refreshes.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:49 PM

Frankly I think it'd be silly for anyone to give IH more TGs right now. He's the one best placed to beat Khell, so if we keep feeding him, that only places him better.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 03:59 PM

Pew pew pew
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:22 PM

Not like this, not like this
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:35 PM

IH look what you did, and could have prevented Posted Image
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:38 PM

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?


I don't think you can retreat anywhere?
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:39 PM

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View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?


I don't think you can retreat anywhere?

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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:40 PM

Oh, me to retreat! Erm, probably not. I just don't see what you can offer that would be more beneficial to me. Plus, it would mean I still wouldn't fulfil my SO.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:51 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?


I don't think you can retreat anywhere?

I can retreat because of the new blue starting tech I took. That was the main reason I took it but yeah I'm talking about you.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 05:01 PM

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?


I don't think you can retreat anywhere?

I can retreat because of the new blue starting tech I took. That was the main reason I took it but yeah I'm talking about you.



I mean, even if you agreed to giving me the majority of your PNs, which I don't think you would, it's hard to make it seem worth it to me.
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Posted 03 February 2021 - 05:09 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 03 February 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 03 February 2021 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well IH knew this was going to happen. Khell any chance I can pay you to retreat?


I don't think you can retreat anywhere?

I can retreat because of the new blue starting tech I took. That was the main reason I took it but yeah I'm talking about you.



I mean, even if you agreed to giving me the majority of your PNs, which I don't think you would, it's hard to make it seem worth it to me.

I was thinking of just my support.
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