[Morgoth]

D, on 09 January 2021 - 03:55 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 09 January 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

I was thinking that my Mech was rather uninspired, but having given it some more thought I've come to the conclusion that it's pretty great! It can function as 2 Fighter II, in addition to its regular ground force capabilities. Not perhaps the most flashy power, but it seems very useful to me!

And the two-card-pick-one explore thing is really good.

Not to mention that!

[Tattersail_]

Fabrication is also good

[Imperial Historian]

I'm interested to see how much exploring matters in this game, morgoth has a bit of setup to do, but could endup drawing 6 exploration cards an activation using the three planet system by rex!

It certainly looks like the game is going to be shorter than previous ones with all the increased power and extra point scoring abilities.

[Tattersail_]

Been checking this thread too often the last 24 hours

[Tattersail_]

I'm looking at the map and every except maybe Morgoth is going to be starved for influence. Where has it all gone? There's literally no good planets for influence. I already know I'm going to struggle for all the moves I want to do.

[twelve]

Yeah I noticed the influence problem too

[Imperial Historian]

I believe several of the exploration tiles add influence to planets. That said yeah influence seems much reduced!

[Khellendros]

I’ll be doing a Morgoth this game and won’t be around on weekends, but yes I will be selecting Construction.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 09 January 2021 - 10:51 PM, said:

I'm looking at the map and every except maybe Morgoth is going to be starved for influence. Where has it all gone? There's literally no good planets for influence. I already know I'm going to struggle for all the moves I want to do.

Yup, it's a comparatively low-influence, high-resource map. When I was generating a starting draft map I told the tool to ban most of the really big "either/or" systems like Tequ'ran/Torkan, Mellon/Zohbat, Bereg/Lirta, and so on, and I told it not to force systems to have a balance of res/inf, treat them equally. Ended up with 9 systems with 3+ resources, which is a bit high but not crazy, and no Qucen'n/Rarron or Arinam/Meer, either. I thought it was pretty interesting, and people had said to keep res/inf a bit lower than usual due to all the new PoK stuff so why not. I like that it lead to a map where you can't rely on just controlling one system like Arninam/Meer that gives you all your influence each round and everything else goes to production - instead you get stuck with the more difficult decision of whether to actually spend a 2/2 or 2/1 planet for resources or for influence, and likewise you'll have to be adaptable to what comes out of the exploration decks.

And I did say it would be cut-throat

[Tattersail_]

I'm not confident enough to make my first move until I speak to Khell regarding the offer I made. Cause it'll affect all my turns.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 10 January 2021 - 10:20 AM, said:

I'm not confident enough to make my first move until I speak to Khell regarding the offer I made. Cause it'll affect all my turns.

I’ll be around Monday to make a deal. One automatic stipulation which should be obvious: Only one ship to come into the empty hex, not carrying any infantry/mech/whatever. Goes back home next round.

But we can talk more tomorrow.

[Morgoth]

While you're here, Khell, did you finish considering my offer?

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 11 January 2021 - 07:30 AM, said:

While you're here, Khell, did you finish considering my offer?

Can you repeat the offer please? Something something don’t eat me exchange something something? I remember reliable trading partner and...alliance PN?

[Morgoth]

I offered you a reliable trading partner, exchange of sftt and a free use of my agent in return for friendly relations and leaving each other's slices alone. I would rather trade and be a happy neighbor to the furballs, seeing how we'll be sharing so many borders.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 11 January 2021 - 09:59 AM, said:

I offered you a reliable trading partner, exchange of sftt and a free use of my agent in return for friendly relations and leaving each other's slices alone. I would rather trade and be a happy neighbor to the furballs, seeing how we'll be sharing so many borders.

Free use means you won’t be using it yourself? I’m game for this.This would be the first game I’ve swapped SftTs early, so why not give it a try.

[Tattersail_]

I'll offer reliable trade alliance regardless of any deal. As a trade benefits both parties.

As you probably can see influence will be highly sort after and my slice does not offer that.

So our deal would be me moving one ship into empty space hex, move it away early next round. My cruiser can hold one infantry so I'll probably be moving that with one infantry so I can explore one of the systems I'll be missing out on this round. Ie double planet system.

In return you get my awesome one time card that allows extra resources and tech specialties.

This agreeable?

Am I missing anything?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 January 2021 - 11:04 AM, said:

I'll offer reliable trade alliance regardless of any deal. As a trade benefits both parties.

As you probably can see influence will be highly sort after and my slice does not offer that.

So our deal would be me moving one ship into empty space hex, move it away early next round. My cruiser can hold one infantry so I'll probably be moving that with one infantry so I can explore one of the systems I'll be missing out on this round. Ie double planet system.

In return you get my awesome one time card that allows extra resources and tech specialties.

This agreeable?

Am I missing anything?

What double planet system? Won’t you need to go there in order to claim the three outer hexes objective? Or do you just mean you won’t be landing on those planets this time round?

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 January 2021 - 11:04 AM, said:

I'll offer reliable trade alliance regardless of any deal. As a trade benefits both parties.

As you probably can see influence will be highly sort after and my slice does not offer that.

So our deal would be me moving one ship into empty space hex, move it away early next round. My cruiser can hold one infantry so I'll probably be moving that with one infantry so I can explore one of the systems I'll be missing out on this round. Ie double planet system.

In return you get my awesome one time card that allows extra resources and tech specialties.

This agreeable?

Am I missing anything?

Your racial does not give tech specialties, just extra influence and resources, it means the planet counts as any type in terms of planet types for any PO or ability which reference planet type.

Also you are essentially ceding khell hope's end, make sure you get something for it

[Morgoth]

Khellendros, on 11 January 2021 - 11:00 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 January 2021 - 09:59 AM, said:

I offered you a reliable trading partner, exchange of sftt and a free use of my agent in return for friendly relations and leaving each other's slices alone. I would rather trade and be a happy neighbor to the furballs, seeing how we'll be sharing so many borders.

Free use means you won't be using it yourself? I'm game for this.This would be the first game I've swapped SftTs early, so why not give it a try.

A free use, so one time. Considering the value of what you can find when exploring, and that even without it my offer is very reasonable, I think it's a good deal.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 January 2021 - 11:17 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 January 2021 - 11:04 AM, said:

I'll offer reliable trade alliance regardless of any deal. As a trade benefits both parties.

As you probably can see influence will be highly sort after and my slice does not offer that.

So our deal would be me moving one ship into empty space hex, move it away early next round. My cruiser can hold one infantry so I'll probably be moving that with one infantry so I can explore one of the systems I'll be missing out on this round. Ie double planet system.

In return you get my awesome one time card that allows extra resources and tech specialties.

This agreeable?

Am I missing anything?

What double planet system? Won’t you need to go there in order to claim the three outer hexes objective? Or do you just mean you won’t be landing on those planets this time round?

Yeah xanhact. I'll occupy cealdri this round.

Do you want me to paste the card I am talking to you about again so you can see it?

I've not thought much about Hope's End, have you? Why does IH think it's so special? I have no qualms with you moving there, as long as you don't have any ideas of moving into the asteroid system and being mean to me ha

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ACTION: Attach this card to a non-home planet you control other than Mecatol Rex. Its resource and influence values are each increased by 1 and it is treated as having all 3 planet traits (Cultural, Hazardous, and Industrial).

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 11 January 2021 - 11:54 AM