[Tattersail_]

It's not even a free refresh. You'll be laughing for it. 4 commodities swap,3 tg from trade, plus the 1 tgs for refreshing. It's only a good deal for one person.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have access to alpha wormhole but giving you tgs isn't something I'm willing to do. In fact anyone should do all they can to not give you tgs so you can research and use warfare to hit Rex this round or early next. Seriously though, is a free refresh worth giving someone else a free VP and stranglehold on Rex. Once there he'll be nigh on impossible to shake off.

Here goes Tatts with his usual scare mongering. Last time you said that, we blew up IH's Saarball.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have access to alpha wormhole but giving you tgs isn't something I'm willing to do. In fact anyone should do all they can to not give you tgs so you can research and use warfare to hit Rex this round or early next. Seriously though, is a free refresh worth giving someone else a free VP and stranglehold on Rex. Once there he'll be nigh on impossible to shake off.

Outside our forum it's a very common practice for a free refresh is paid with 1 tg. If it's not something you aren't willing to do then that is your choice.

[twelve]

Blend, on 08 January 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have access to alpha wormhole but giving you tgs isn't something I'm willing to do. In fact anyone should do all they can to not give you tgs so you can research and use warfare to hit Rex this round or early next. Seriously though, is a free refresh worth giving someone else a free VP and stranglehold on Rex. Once there he'll be nigh on impossible to shake off.

Here goes Tatts with his usual scare mongering. Last time you said that, we blew up IH's Saarball.

Ant the time before that he bullied me as the Winnu.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

It's not even a free refresh. You'll be laughing for it. 4 commodities swap,3 tg from trade, plus the 1 tgs for refreshing. It's only a good deal for one person.

It's your go by the way.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 08 January 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have access to alpha wormhole but giving you tgs isn't something I'm willing to do. In fact anyone should do all they can to not give you tgs so you can research and use warfare to hit Rex this round or early next. Seriously though, is a free refresh worth giving someone else a free VP and stranglehold on Rex. Once there he'll be nigh on impossible to shake off.

Here goes Tatts with his usual scare mongering. Last time you said that, we blew up IH's Saarball.

That was a good thing! Other decisions may not have been but that one was for the collective. You think you'll finish any higher than you did without IH giving you TG after Tg.

[Tattersail_]

I haven't decided strategy yet. Going to get the old pen and paper out in a bit.

[Blend]

twelve, on 08 January 2021 - 08:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have access to alpha wormhole but giving you tgs isn't something I'm willing to do. In fact anyone should do all they can to not give you tgs so you can research and use warfare to hit Rex this round or early next. Seriously though, is a free refresh worth giving someone else a free VP and stranglehold on Rex. Once there he'll be nigh on impossible to shake off.

Outside our forum it's a very common practice for a free refresh is paid with 1 tg. If it's not something you aren't willing to do then that is your choice.

Yeah - in the TTS games, they call it X-1 - usually pretty much everyone does an X-1 on the first time Trade is played. (well, in the 2 games I've played, lol)

This post has been edited by Blend: 08 January 2021 - 08:58 PM

[Khellendros]

Boo - I like the free refresh for a free refresh when someone else gets Trade deal better. How do you even pay if you’re not connected and there’s no agenda phase yet?

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 08 January 2021 - 09:19 PM, said:

Boo - I like the free refresh for a free refresh when someone else gets Trade deal better. How do you even pay if you're not connected and there's no agenda phase yet?

I let you pay when you can. I have no reason not to trust you. And as the Saar I don't think you will be hurting for Trade Goods.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 08 January 2021 - 09:20 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 08 January 2021 - 09:19 PM, said:

Boo - I like the free refresh for a free refresh when someone else gets Trade deal better. How do you even pay if you're not connected and there's no agenda phase yet?

I let you pay when you can. I have no reason not to trust you. And as the Saar I don't think you will be hurting for Trade Goods.

Well...that’s not the point. It’s the principle!

[twelve]

I've always felt giving everyone a free refresh from the get go was a bad deal for whoever had trade. You are helping out everyone get a better start for no immediate benefit. This is a competition after all.

[Blend]

twelve, on 08 January 2021 - 08:46 PM, said:

What do you mean by going for Everra? I will have a HUGE issue with that so please clarify what you mean by this.

I'm very sorry, I meant to say towards Everra - I will be going for Sem-Lore - I know Everra is yours and I have no intentions of trying to take it.

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 08 January 2021 - 09:19 PM, said:

Boo - I like the free refresh for a free refresh when someone else gets Trade deal better. How do you even pay if you’re not connected and there’s no agenda phase yet?

twelve, on 08 January 2021 - 09:20 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 08 January 2021 - 09:19 PM, said:

Boo - I like the free refresh for a free refresh when someone else gets Trade deal better. How do you even pay if you're not connected and there's no agenda phase yet?

I let you pay when you can. I have no reason not to trust you. And as the Saar I don't think you will be hurting for Trade Goods.

In the TTS games, we each give the person who flips trade one of our Command flags. That signifies a 1TG debt, to be paid when possible. Then it's your responsibility to call those in when you can.

[twelve]

IH And Khell I'll need your answers regarding my Trade offer as I'm likely going to be popping trade right away. Tatts you too if you happen to change your mind.

[Tattersail_]

I only have 2 commodities. I don't think its worth it from my end. Maybe my deal could be free refresh in future but otherwise I won't be hitting that secondary

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 08 January 2021 - 02:24 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 08 January 2021 - 02:07 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 January 2021 - 11:24 PM, said:

Any thoughts on Atlas Tatts?

You are also a strong PDS faction so would benefit a lot from my alliance card and the use of my hero (you'd get an extra PDS shot/bombard/AFB), and you are sure to have many PDS on the board.

I think a mutual deal regarding PDS (we don't fire on each others ships but if someone else attacks our PDS defends the other) and alliance swap could be beneficial for us both.

You'd be free to expand into any vacated saar territory and I'd be able to build the little fortress of my dreams.


I'd be willing to do this if you cede atlas to me.

I know we had a stormy relationship last game, but I hope we can have a better one this game.

This sounds quite a deal. How do the alliance cards work?

I'll have to go look that up. Knowing you are on the beta wormhole and me on the alpha it'll block intrusions from afar.

Basically same as support for the throne, but instead of a VP they let you use the other persons commander ability as well if it is unlocked.

I'll go for this. We do an alliance swap and dont fire upon each other but defend our territories?

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth can you tidy up that first post of yours so I can see what your agents and things do.

[twelve]

The info is in the faction reference section. I think he is the Naaz-Rokha. It looks like most of what they do revole around exploration and relics.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 08 January 2021 - 10:01 PM, said:

IH And Khell I'll need your answers regarding my Trade offer as I'm likely going to be popping trade right away. Tatts you too if you happen to change your mind.

Let me mull it over.