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#2601 User is offline   Blend 

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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:14 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 01:21 PM, said:

Only things that might help are if someone has some sort of good exhaust planets card, take trade goods, or destroy PDS card, or can take Loki, in which case I could take a shot at the homeworld.


If Twelve plays Leadership so I can gain some CTs and you move that destroyer out of the Alpha Wormhole space, I can do the frontier explore which MAY net me a useful card, yet. That's the last I can offer this round/game.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:14 PM

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:09 PM, said:

IH - the total production value in your home system based on the current map is 7, so you've built 3 ships too many in your most recent turn (unless I'm missing something)


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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:15 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 06 April 2021 - 12:54 PM, said:

seeing as how I don't think I can explore MR, does that mean I can't refresh it either?


With Pre-Fab Arcologies? Indeed, no, that can only apply after exploring and MR can't be explored.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:17 PM

View PostD, on 06 April 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:09 PM, said:

IH - the total production value in your home system based on the current map is 7, so you've built 3 ships too many in your most recent turn (unless I'm missing something)


Aerie Hololattice gives his planets with structures on them PRODUCTION 1


Ah, stupid Hollolattice, I keep missing that one.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:18 PM

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 01:21 PM, said:

Only things that might help are if someone has some sort of good exhaust planets card, take trade goods, or destroy PDS card, or can take Loki, in which case I could take a shot at the homeworld.


If Twelve plays Leadership so I can gain some CTs and you move that destroyer out of the Alpha Wormhole space, I can do the frontier explore which MAY net me a useful card, yet. That's the last I can offer this round/game.


Why not, I have little else to do as it stands. For the hail mary!
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:19 PM

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:17 PM, said:

View PostD, on 06 April 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:09 PM, said:

IH - the total production value in your home system based on the current map is 7, so you've built 3 ships too many in your most recent turn (unless I'm missing something)


Aerie Hololattice gives his planets with structures on them PRODUCTION 1


Ah, stupid Hollolattice, I keep missing that one.


Stupid all of Argent's abilities.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:21 PM

I've been trying to work out a way I could reach Arnor/Lor to take off 3 influence, but I don't think it's possible. Maybe I should have done a few unit upgrades lol.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:30 PM

SFTT I'd a weird one isn't it, with that IH has a lot of protection. Similarly with Khell and Morgoth. The onus gets transferred to players across the board to prevent a win.

Honestly, what would be the best job for me to do to prevent an Imperial win? I haven't looked at the board much but if I'm not going to win then I may as well go out in a bout of glory.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:32 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:30 PM, said:

SFTT I'd a weird one isn't it, with that IH has a lot of protection. Similarly with Khell and Morgoth. The onus gets transferred to players across the board to prevent a win.

Honestly, what would be the best job for me to do to prevent an Imperial win? I haven't looked at the board much but if I'm not going to win then I may as well go out in a bout of glory.



Well, in the first place we probably needed this a turn or two ago :p

Can you take Arnor/Lor, or Loki, or IH's homeworld? I would say, go look at the board and then come back with your suggestions.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:32 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:30 PM, said:

SFTT I'd a weird one isn't it, with that IH has a lot of protection. Similarly with Khell and Morgoth. The onus gets transferred to players across the board to prevent a win.

Honestly, what would be the best job for me to do to prevent an Imperial win? I haven't looked at the board much but if I'm not going to win then I may as well go out in a bout of glory.


Do whatever you can to prevent IH from being able to score. I think in this case it's take away influence, so either take some planets in Loki/Ashtroth/Abaddon or Arnor/Lor or his home system.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:34 PM

lol, 6 CT in strategy, looks like Twelve is adamant he's not going anywhere or doing anything.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:34 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 02:21 PM, said:

I've been trying to work out a way I could reach Arnor/Lor to take off 3 influence, but I don't think it's possible. Maybe I should have done a few unit upgrades lol.


If you could fly through my ships it'd be possible, but I've got all the Alphas blocked off. In two or three turns you could easily get there, though you'd still have to destroy one of my ships on the way.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:36 PM

View PostBlend, on 06 April 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 02:21 PM, said:

I've been trying to work out a way I could reach Arnor/Lor to take off 3 influence, but I don't think it's possible. Maybe I should have done a few unit upgrades lol.


If you could fly through my ships it'd be possible, but I've got all the Alphas blocked off. In two or three turns you could easily get there, though you'd still have to destroy one of my ships on the way.


I have Light/Wave, so I can fly through your ships, but I still don't think I can get there. Not with enough firepower. Also, can't I just fly through your ships with your permission anyway?
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:37 PM

Honestly I could only manage 4 cruisers, 3 fighters and a Mech to attack that 3 planet system and even with some of my shenanigans I have been saving up I don't think the outcome will be favourable.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:39 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

lol, 6 CT in strategy, looks like Twelve is adamant he's not going anywhere or doing anything.

I already gave IH his congrats. If you all somehow stop him I'll be eternally thankful but would then expect IH to make a move on my home system. And if Tatts actually attacks IH we might actually go to another round as crazy as that sounds.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:42 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 April 2021 - 02:39 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 02:34 PM, said:

lol, 6 CT in strategy, looks like Twelve is adamant he's not going anywhere or doing anything.

I already gave IH his congrats. If you all somehow stop him I'll be eternally thankful but would then expect IH to make a move on my home system. And if Tatts actually attacks IH we might actually go to another round as crazy as that sounds.


Nah, Tatts always has that 5-ship fleet in his home system as final backup for a point. The way I see it, the only way we might go another round now is if:

- We take 3 influence off IH through some combination of Tatts, me, and Blend.
- IH takes your homeworld.
- Someone has an AC to destroy one of Tatts' ships in his home system (taking him back down to 4) - and then we also stop him gaining the other one or two POs he could get this round.

Edit: Ah, you are right that if Tatts does attack IH he loses the SftT point, but I think he can still gain the 6CT 2VP?

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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:54 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.



Well, that blaze of glory didn't last long :p
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:57 PM

I was just looking at what Tatts could actually bring to Loki, and that's brought up a couple of questions:

- There are 3 Ul fighters on ex-Lodor, but shouldn't they be destroyed as there's nothing there to carry them?

- There are 3 fighters on Cealdri/Xanhact, but only two cruisers to carry them?
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Posted 06 April 2021 - 03:00 PM

If you played Leadership, put tokens in fleet, then you might be able to bring enough firepower to take Loki. 7 cruisers with fighters and mechs, totally possible by using Blend's Aetherstream.
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