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Posted 27 November 2020 - 03:24 AM

View Posttwelve, on 27 November 2020 - 02:23 AM, said:

Guess he forgot


Sure did. LoL. Oh well, I still wont Ceasefire that move.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 05:11 AM

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View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 01:48 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:03 AM, said:

Well, Drek, given our deal was for me to research GLS, and you just researched it, is there something else you'd like me to research so you can copy?


Nah, you said a while back all deals are off now, and that's fine. Plus the original plan with the PN had been that last round you'd get GLS and then I'd do the secondary... didn't expect that nobody would pick the strategy card! And consequently didn't expect I'd be the one picking Tech SC this round.

If/when you research something that I think would be useful to me I'll play the PN, but don't worry about trying to do it deliberately.


I almost immediately said I would keep our deal after I said all deals were off.

I would much rather just research something for you to use my PN, I have other deals in play that I would like to make good on.


Honestly, I don't even know what a good next tech choice for me is at this point that you don't already have... I can't use X-89, LWD would be an unlikely situational scenario at best, Dread II well it's not like I even have any dreads on the board... Assault Cannon is a nice defensive deterrent I suppose?

Feels like Gravity Drive makes the most sense as my next research to help my flagship move around, but you already have it.

I'm open to suggestions...

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.

 worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 06:23 AM

Or Blend you can not research a tech at all. That seems like a viable option.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 08:35 AM

Effectively sitting on 32 trade goods is pretty impressive.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 09:13 AM

IH do you need them to be traded on your turn? You got the free refresh anyway. So you can negotiate the commodity swap later in the round no?
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 12:07 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 27 November 2020 - 09:13 AM, said:

IH do you need them to be traded on your turn? You got the free refresh anyway. So you can negotiate the commodity swap later in the round no?


What I do this turn will depend on Blend's response
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 01:39 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p


Definitely interested in a commodity wash, but I doubt we'll be neighbours this round.

You still owe me an activation, by the way.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 01:42 PM

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p


Definitely interested in a commodity wash, but I doubt we'll be neighbours this round.

You still owe me an activation, by the way.


I know I owe you an activation and could move to neighbour you this round if you will swap out my commodities and give me an additional 2 TG for the activation I owe you plus one more?
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 01:49 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p


Definitely interested in a commodity wash, but I doubt we'll be neighbours this round.

You still owe me an activation, by the way.


I know I owe you an activation and could move to neighbour you this round if you will swap out my commodities and give me an additional 2 TG for the activation I owe you plus one more?


...So you want me to give you 2TGs for an activation that you already owe me? If you don't move to neighbour me and just do the activation you owe that I've already paid for, then I'd get 3TGs. If you do move to neighbour me, I'd get the 3TGs, and you'd swap our my commodities for 2TGs, which would leave me at 1TG after Drek pillaged me. So you want me to pay you to give me 1 TG?
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 02:29 PM

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p


Definitely interested in a commodity wash, but I doubt we'll be neighbours this round.

You still owe me an activation, by the way.


I know I owe you an activation and could move to neighbour you this round if you will swap out my commodities and give me an additional 2 TG for the activation I owe you plus one more?


...So you want me to give you 2TGs for an activation that you already owe me? If you don't move to neighbour me and just do the activation you owe that I've already paid for, then I'd get 3TGs. If you do move to neighbour me, I'd get the 3TGs, and you'd swap our my commodities for 2TGs, which would leave me at 1TG after Drek pillaged me. So you want me to pay you to give me 1 TG?


No, I want to give you the activation I owe you plus one more, so 2 activations and swap out all your commodities this turn. So you'd get 4 TG from the additional activation, plus 4 from having your commodities swapped out. So you'd be net 6 TG once you consider D'reks looting and I'd be net 4TG, ideally D'rek would activate your racial and you'd trade me your racial PN at the same time too so neither of us are looted again. I'm being entirely reasonable here!
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 02:41 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 27 November 2020 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 05:13 AM, said:

How about war sun tech? I suppose I do have enough resources to build a war sun if it was unlocked, and I can work it up to IH's homeworld over the course of 2 rounds if the "control a planet in another player's home system" objective comes up.


LoL, I'm not giving you and your oodles of money War Suns.


You may as well. It's extremely unlikely it would be able to reach you, and would most likely be used to take tatts homeworld to prevent him winning.

Blend you didn't respond to me re commodity swap? I've realised that with net 4 TG I could potentially score the 2VP objective. A commodity swap gets me halfway there, so if you are interested in a deal where I swap out your commodities and activate more of your systems let me know.

I've also realised that if I'm giving both you and d'rek resources you are both more likely to let me survive :p


Definitely interested in a commodity wash, but I doubt we'll be neighbours this round.

You still owe me an activation, by the way.


I know I owe you an activation and could move to neighbour you this round if you will swap out my commodities and give me an additional 2 TG for the activation I owe you plus one more?


...So you want me to give you 2TGs for an activation that you already owe me? If you don't move to neighbour me and just do the activation you owe that I've already paid for, then I'd get 3TGs. If you do move to neighbour me, I'd get the 3TGs, and you'd swap our my commodities for 2TGs, which would leave me at 1TG after Drek pillaged me. So you want me to pay you to give me 1 TG?


No, I want to give you the activation I owe you plus one more, so 2 activations and swap out all your commodities this turn. So you'd get 4 TG from the additional activation, plus 4 from having your commodities swapped out. So you'd be net 6 TG once you consider D'reks looting and I'd be net 4TG, ideally D'rek would activate your racial and you'd trade me your racial PN at the same time too so neither of us are looted again. I'm being entirely reasonable here!


Okay, sure. So you do 2 activations and neighbour me, I give you what, 5TGs? Gods, all this math is hurting my brains...
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 02:49 PM

I may have got my math wrong, pillaging is hard on the brain. I'll sit down when I'm home and work it out properly.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 03:40 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 02:49 PM, said:

I may have got my math wrong, pillaging is hard on the brain. I'll sit down when I'm home and work it out properly.


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Posted 27 November 2020 - 05:38 PM

So I give you my 3 commodities and 1 TG, you give me 4 commodities and 2TG.

Net: 4 for me, 2 for you

I activate your territories the time I owe you for plus once more.

So yeah I did do the maths wrong that's net 4 for me, 5 for you.

As a bonus if you do the swap with me this turn (in case someone negarious stops us neigbouring) I'll let you choose where I move, I can either move to the wormhole, fight d'rek and try and stop her scoring the next to rex agenda, or I can move to twelves system next to rex.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 07:35 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 27 November 2020 - 05:38 PM, said:

So I give you my 3 commodities and 1 TG, you give me 4 commodities and 2TG.

Net: 4 for me, 2 for you

I activate your territories the time I owe you for plus once more.

So yeah I did do the maths wrong that's net 4 for me, 5 for you.

As a bonus if you do the swap with me this turn (in case someone negarious stops us neigbouring) I'll let you choose where I move, I can either move to the wormhole, fight d'rek and try and stop her scoring the next to rex agenda, or I can move to twelves system next to rex.

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Posted 27 November 2020 - 09:51 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 27 November 2020 - 08:41 AM, said:

Current map
https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

I forgot to update Rarron, but it'll be there in the next one.


@Morgoth - IH still has an infantry floating around in space in his HW?

 worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 27 November 2020 - 10:56 PM

View PostD, on 27 November 2020 - 09:51 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 27 November 2020 - 08:41 AM, said:

Current map
https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

I forgot to update Rarron, but it'll be there in the next one.


@Morgoth - IH still has an infantry floating around in space in his HW?


It shoukd be on the 2/1 planet
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