[Kilava]

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 May 2020 - 05:39 PM, said:

Kilava, on 27 May 2020 - 05:37 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 May 2020 - 05:29 PM, said:

Everyone please note how kilava disappears as soon as they got a vote here at day end.

And miraculously reappears the moment they are needed to Lynch anyone that is not Kilava. As soon as the vote train was confirmed they pounced.


Someone who has only been jumping at the mention of their name for the last 4 days and doing much of anything else.


With that point...I will continue making supper.

if the rest of the players can't read the thread and see how wrong this is, I don't know what else to say.

So you didn’t disappear after I voted for you?
You didn’t only return To vote only after a lynch target (Hanas) was agreed apon with next to no time left?


...ok

...I was gone long before you voted me, and I voted within 1 minute of my return. you voted me and removed in less than 30 minutes during the time that I was "AWOL". i had to go back and look.

whatever I guess.

[Okaros]

Hanas, on 27 May 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

Should at least have lynched Osseric if there wasn't enough to lynch me. Least optimal result for end of day.

Yeah I bet you would have popped up on time then.

[Gait]

So I think we should Vote Aranatha.

Just to stop the Mafia Gods from smiting us for his "late arrival".

I'm just saying that was bad.

So very very bad.

[Path-Shaper]

They did their best. One person after another fingered by the townsfolk. Normally that would constitute a good time but there was no climax. That made it an anti climax.

It is day 5. 0 minutes remaining.

10 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara. 

6 votes to lynch.

5 vote Hanas; Okaros, Gait, Barghast, Sheltatha, Kilava

Players not voted; Aranatha, Fanderay, Hanas, Osseric, Venesara

[Aranatha]

Gait, on 27 May 2020 - 06:03 PM, said:

So I think we should Vote Aranatha.

Just to stop the Mafia Gods from smiting us for his "late arrival".

I'm just saying that was bad.

So very very bad.

Not saying it wasn't bad. But I didn't do it on purpose, and it's kinda bad to kill off an inno just because I misread the time. There's enough people to vote even if I fuck up, so I'd say lynching me for that would be a lot worse.
I can't stop you if you really want to, but I would be remiss if I didn't protest. I have a really good reason to be distracted, but I won't get into details as it's a bummer.

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric has been Modkilled.

[Path-Shaper]

Darren and James hunted as best they could. They crept to the bungalow. This guy had been around for years. He used to be a charity worker back in the day but year by year he grew less tolerable and irritated. When the guys came towards him he shouted to get off his lawn but then he saw the hatchet. A little chopper and no way used for anything good. Before he could go back inside they struck. Dead before he hit the floor.

Sheltatha Lore is dead. He was DKT and RI.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 6. 48 hours remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.


Players not voted; All.

[Fanderay]

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

[Okaros]

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

I’m going to ignore how late this vote is and just say: I know you’re voting Gait because that’s what Tennes wanted, but it would be helpful to know your thoughts on other players too.

[Aranatha]

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Believe me, I know shit happens.

[Okaros]

Also I’m insulted that Sheltatha was killed before me and can only surmise that means I’m completely wrong about everything.

[Hanas]

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

4min in to the day. How much earlier did you want to be?

I'm going to try and have a catch up.

[Hanas]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 06:37 PM, said:

Also I’m insulted that Sheltatha was killed before me and can only surmise that means I’m completely wrong about everything.

Not what I'd have expected either. But maybe that's what we're supposed to thi.... gah dammit

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 6. 47 hours 40 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

1 vote for Gait; Fanderay


Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Venesara.

[Gait]

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

I feel like you're not even trying.

[Fanderay]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 06:36 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

I’m going to ignore how late this vote is and just say: I know you’re voting Gait because that’s what Tennes wanted, but it would be helpful to know your thoughts on other players too.

WDYM late? It's the start of the day.
Also, yeah, I'll give some thoughts soon.

[Fanderay]

Hanas, on 27 May 2020 - 06:39 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 06:31 PM, said:

Well fuck me, I had to go do stuff with my family and just got back. I should have voted earlier.

Vote Gait

4min in to the day. How much earlier did you want to be?

I'm going to try and have a catch up.

I was talking about my last post in the previous day.

So, starting with the five suspects: Aranatha, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara.
Kalse was fairly suspicious of both Venesara and Kilava, so I'm more strongly in favor of lynching one of the other three: Aranatha, Gait, Kilava.
Out of these three, I don't have any strong read on Kilava, read Aranatha as confused village, and am fairly suspicious of Gait. Looking back at Gait, I'd possibly be willing to lynch Kilava after rereading his stuff.

[Okaros]

I want to debunk somethng. There is this idea that Kalse was happy to vote for Hanas. Let's take a look at that:


- Of all of Kalse's posts, there are three which directly relate to Hanas.
- Two of them (the first two below) are in the context of the ongoing day 2 lynch. In both cases, Hanas is not mentioned in isolation, but as part of a group which Kalse would be happy to vote for. In both cases they express their preference for Venesara.
- Kalse says he prefers voting Hanas to voting Thyrllan. This makes sense not because Hanas is town, but becuase they HAVE FEWER VOTES than Thyrllan and are less at risk of being lynched. Kalse never goes through with voting for Hanas.

- Important here is the final post relating to Hanas. This is in day 3, when Sheltatha makes a case on and votes for Hanas. What does Kalse do? They come on and rubbish the vote on Hanas (who they didn't mind voting for the previous day). They go on to suggest voting for Venesara or myself instead.




Edit: Quotes went crazy, deleted them, added them to the next post. Also made one of the sentences above make more sense

This post has been edited by Okaros: 27 May 2020 - 07:45 PM

[Okaros]

Hopefully this post of quotes works better...

Kalse, on 15 May 2020 - 01:19 PM, said:

Back and caught up.

What is it now, 4/3/2 or 3/3/2 for Thyrllan/Venesara/Hanas, with some singletons? Sorry, it's been a while we had a PS post and on mobile it's a pain to keep track, in particular with Shelthata switching a couple of times.

I am happy with my vote on Venesara, but would be available and willing to switch to one of the others to get a lynch (again, not sure how much time left in the day, 7-8 hour?). Both Thyrllan and Hanas have a similar case of hiding in plain sight, if I followed correctly.
Of the two, I would prefer Hanas, because of the strange quick posts shifting to Thyrllan after my second vote on Venesara, maybe it was a derail attempt, or because of the few posts that quickly in the day made it a either/or between Venesara and Thyrllan (even though there were just a few votes on either), maybe they are both inno and scum is happy to push this fight today. If you are paranoid about enough things eventually you get one right

Kalse, on 15 May 2020 - 07:19 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 May 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

aah.... was copy pasta and clicked reply...

Osseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha is spreading his focus out very thin. To me it comes across as wanting to appear like they're looking at who's scum, but adding different players to their mix to broaden their chances.

I like the Hanas train except for Sheltatha being on it. The Thyrllan train would be easy to jump on. There's little friction to doing so.

Being the filthy low poster, I need to look at the Venesara train in more detail, but I would happily vote for Sheltatha if there weren't two fundamental trains in process.

Thyrllan's train is the easiest to board.

I have to do the most with my time, which is to see which lynch will shed the most light on the game. Which player has had the most connections.

Osseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

This post sticks out the most to me, and then there is the string of Thyrllan posts that are nothing short of boosting their post count. I could go with either.

vote Venesara

Around to switch votes to Thyrllan as well.

Osseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

It's what I see. You don't have a train on you, and I'm not going to make a new one. Not right now.

this reads so weird to me, why the obsession with being on the "right" train, as if there were such a thing? he mentions hanas, thyr, and ven....then said he would vote shelly if not for the TWO trains going...OK....

thyr's train is easiest? you can go with either? you're around to switch? you will only vote for trains not start new ones?

@ this point ven is @ 3 and thyr is @ 4 and osseric drops a vote on ven to tie the votes and make either train viable now, it took a vote from tennes to put thyr ahead. why not just vote thyr if you think it is the best option, and why put your vote elsewhere? it looks like you are trying to push any opportunity to get ven lynched and hiding behind a proposed thyr vote if you decide to, I guess...yeah, I don't like it, this doesn't make sense. also those posts are train wrecks of garbage (see what I did there) but crappy play isn't the main problem

need to look at osseric tomorrow and hopefully ven / hanas show up. I was here to switch if needed anyway, knowing that if I pulled my vote from ven everything unbalances and thyr is the only target. it seems like osseric cares more about thyr not getting lynched than lynching ven, and I don't like that either, when thyr was ahead 3/4.

remove vote

vote thyrllan

Fully agreed. I don't like any of the votes on on Vesara until now except mine (and that included yours ) So Imma switch before I leave for the night.

I would have preferred Hanas, but besides the strange timing of the first two votes, I can't say I disagree with anything that was said against Mr "How-do-you-do-fellow-average-town-people?"

remove vote


vote Thyrllan

Kalse, on 16 May 2020 - 11:12 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 16 May 2020 - 10:01 AM, said:

Kalse, on 16 May 2020 - 07:21 AM, said:

OK, I noticed two things in re-reading the end of day:

First is this trio of posts:

Aranatha, on 15 May 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

There's some really interesting divides going on about who is scummy or not, and that should give us some valuable information as to who is who once we get a lynch result. I'm really not excited about being on the same train as Tennes and gang, but Thyrrlan seems to be the only lynch option. Should be interesting to see who votes for him and who doesn't. Might aswell rip off the band aid.

remove vote
Vote Thyrllan

Edited: just to add the bold

Aranatha, on 15 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

I told yah we would get some good information out of this, but oh man I'm so happy right now, I didn't expect us to hit a scum this early!

Aranatha, on 15 May 2020 - 09:31 PM, said:

What's the likelihood that their scum friends voted for him? Not very high, so we should probably start looking closely at anyone that voted for someone else, or didn't vote. So much more to go on now than before.

I mean, read all this with "The Room"-level acting skills and it's almost too on the nose. Then again, killers usually try to stay average and Thyrlann actually had some posts where he was writing about how average he was.

This is precisely why I was all over him last night.
when I read these posts I couldn't believe what I was reading.

He actively sets himself up for "glory" when reluctantly voting Thyr, and once the Lynch result comes out he cashes in and gives himself a giant reach-around to congratulate himself for doing it.
He is very critical of anyone who didn't vote suddenly, even tho he apparently didn't like to be on the train with Tennes. Wishy Washy AF.

Then he goes on to push a narrative that comes dangerously close to exonerating those on the vote train (himself or perhaps its others on the train he is protecting) using terribly flimsy logic.
And starts attacking people (me for one) who didn't vote.


I wasn't arguing with him for no reason last night, I was seeing how far he would push his narrative. He didn't back down much, but he did start to slightly side step his narrative when he I pointed the flaws in his logic.
He also doubled down on attacking me for pointing out the flaws.
All this was very interesting to me.

I would build a case on him if it didn't seem self serving and end up detracting from the case coming from me...
Perhaps I will anyways.
I think there is a lot to be found in Aranatha and his erratic "aggressive" single minded approach since day one (actually that in of itself is interesting because both days he came at me and Tennes after voting for Thyr...)

Looking at the posts after Thyr came out...at a glance, Gait, Kalse and Aranatha immediately stand out as people who seemed to be trying to push a narrative away from a Thyr Lynch. And probably all need to be looked at this weekend.
If I have time I will try and look at all three and try put something tough.

For now
Vote Hanas




Because my case on them is still valid, they have had zero interaction with Thyr that I can remember
And much like Thyr, they coasting and have yet to come back and respond to any of the accusations.

Really?
- We have a scum lynch and you fall back to "well, I still like my case from yesterday..."?
- You say there were efforts to push away from Thyrllan (I presume by scum) and you vote for one of target that was pushed as an alternative?

You voted about 10 times and I don't remember a single meaningful one, now you dilute the thread at an important time with your "re-read" spam, I mean, please read, process and come back with something more focused.