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Mafia 150 - Lockdown Hell

#361 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 04:10 PM

View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:47 PM, said:

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Those are other player's work and observations. I can't help my timing has left someone else finding out who has and hasn't been deserved of speculation.

I'm not spreading myself. I was commenting on the established cases since my last look. Yours is my only one so far. The rest is being a team player.

I already said why I chose Venesara over Hanas. It's because it looks bad to call you out then vote on the same train as you.

Don't get so offensive, it ruins your play.


Did you though? You said you need to look at Venesara then you just quoted Kilava's post and dropped a vote on Ven.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 04:10 PM

View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 14 May 2020 - 02:18 PM, said:

also, fuck, whoops. oh well

View PostVenesara, on 14 May 2020 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 13 May 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

Then who do you find scummy?



Well, I had an eye on Merrid, which was dumb apparently.

I was thinking about your post from the 1st page, but I don't believe anybody else was concerned, so I'm not hanging on to that one much

Nobody really sticking out


not if you are the scum...jeez

dawg l2multiquote. stop peddling your post padding garbage just get it THE HELL OUT OF HERE

also nice distancing keep repeating how little you had to do with merrid and how dumb you were to even think it oh lordy how shall you survive your own stupidity except by posting about it !! i'm sure you did have your little eye on merrid

vote venesara


This post sticks out the most to me, and then there is the string of Thyrllan posts that are nothing short of boosting their post count. I could go with either.

vote Venesara

Around to switch votes to Thyrllan as well.


err, is it Kilava's post that sticks out or Venesara's?

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 04:26 PM

View PostSkintick, on 15 May 2020 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 14 May 2020 - 02:18 PM, said:

also, fuck, whoops. oh well

View PostVenesara, on 14 May 2020 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 13 May 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

Then who do you find scummy?



Well, I had an eye on Merrid, which was dumb apparently.

I was thinking about your post from the 1st page, but I don't believe anybody else was concerned, so I'm not hanging on to that one much

Nobody really sticking out


not if you are the scum...jeez

dawg l2multiquote. stop peddling your post padding garbage just get it THE HELL OUT OF HERE

also nice distancing keep repeating how little you had to do with merrid and how dumb you were to even think it oh lordy how shall you survive your own stupidity except by posting about it !! i'm sure you did have your little eye on merrid

vote venesara


This post sticks out the most to me, and then there is the string of Thyrllan posts that are nothing short of boosting their post count. I could go with either.

vote Venesara

Around to switch votes to Thyrllan as well.


err, is it Kilava's post that sticks out or Venesara's?


Yeah, if it's Kilava's case that convinced him I chose the wrong day to stop sniffing glue

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 04:50 PM

caught up but dear lord there is much to parse. that is an interesting quote there, i didn't make any case on Ven except latching onto a stupid comment (which itself self-describes as stupid, oh irony)

the train on ven is being widely discussed but no one except kalse has mentioned that I voted first really until osseric here mirrors what I said.... osseric were you agreeing with me? if it's not my post that "sticks out", it is funny that ven's post actually says "nobody really sticking out", and your "this post sticks out to me" while quoting me quoting ven is not subtle enough to be sarcastic/mocking/imitation, it reads genuine or deliberate. perhaps a bit too "call-and-response". also I was calling out ven for post padding - which I wasn't doing - so were you just saying that you are willing to vote for the post-padders?

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 05:06 PM

Ok, I’ve missed quite a bit. I like the Hanas case, and am going to go back and read him myself. Kalse seems too reasonable for me to want to buy into his Venesara case. Whenever I find myself thinking that about a player, they always turn out to be scum. And Thyr just looks scummy.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 05:24 PM

It is day 2. About 4 hours 30 minutes remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.

1 vote Prazec Goul; Tennes
4 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric
4 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 15 May 2020 - 05:27 PM

23:00 BST is end of day. Instead of weekend freeze I'll extend day 3 to 72 hours. That'll be Monday 23:00 BST.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 May 2020 - 05:27 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 15 May 2020 - 05:58 PM

Decision time.

Like I said, Venesara case seemed solid to me but on another read they just feel too sloppy to be scum.

It's a toss up between Thyr and Hanas. Both are coasters, both feel scummy, both had a blunder of a post. Neither case feels stronger to me so I'm gonna go with a pragmatic vote. More people so far have commented on Thyr and I think their CF is more valuable than Hanas's.

Remove vote.

Vote Thyr.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 06:17 PM

Yesterday was a bad day for me with my wrist potentially seriously injured. Sorry about the lack of activity.

Don't have the time to catch up currently but I will be around to vote if needed.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 06:55 PM

tennes has been quite judicious with his vote and loquacious in his replies, so it feels like that vote switch carries a bit of weight, esp because it unbalances the vote count...however ven has completely disappeared, no posts since after osseric dropped his vote I think. that is one way to get out of a lynch, just disappear. looks like it's going to work, too, because votes are swinging already. osseric also made some weird comments about his vote for ven ...I need to look a little closer, but everyone is repeating the same "ven looks scummy, decent case, decent train....but naaaahhh" logic - which is fine, I can get on board with that esp cause ven isn't around, same logic used on hanas... something is bothering me, lookking back quickly.

i'll be around till time out, but I expect that pulling my vote from ven to thyr will tip the scale after tennes put thyr @ 5 vs. ven @ 4

in fact, has thyr even been around to defend himself? he posted 15 times on a single page but he's the defacto lynch du jour at this point and he has nothing to add... I still dislike ven's play and convenient disappearing act but this next bit from osseric is enough to make me change my mind

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:01 PM

It is day 2. About 3 hours left

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


4 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric
5 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait,Tennes
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.

3 hours, and our best lynch is L-5




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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:09 PM

aah.... was copy pasta and clicked reply...

View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:


Sheltatha is spreading his focus out very thin. To me it comes across as wanting to appear like they're looking at who's scum, but adding different players to their mix to broaden their chances.

I like the Hanas train except for Sheltatha being on it. The Thyrllan train would be easy to jump on. There's little friction to doing so.

Being the filthy low poster, I need to look at the Venesara train in more detail, but I would happily vote for Sheltatha if there weren't two fundamental trains in process.

Thyrllan's train is the easiest to board.

I have to do the most with my time, which is to see which lynch will shed the most light on the game. Which player has had the most connections.



View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:



This post sticks out the most to me, and then there is the string of Thyrllan posts that are nothing short of boosting their post count. I could go with either.

vote Venesara

Around to switch votes to Thyrllan as well.



View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:


It's what I see. You don't have a train on you, and I'm not going to make a new one. Not right now.


this reads so weird to me, why the obsession with being on the "right" train, as if there were such a thing? he mentions hanas, thyr, and ven....then said he would vote shelly if not for the TWO trains going...OK....

thyr's train is easiest? you can go with either? you're around to switch? you will only vote for trains not start new ones?

@ this point ven is @ 3 and thyr is @ 4 and osseric drops a vote on ven to tie the votes and make either train viable now, it took a vote from tennes to put thyr ahead. why not just vote thyr if you think it is the best option, and why put your vote elsewhere? it looks like you are trying to push any opportunity to get ven lynched and hiding behind a proposed thyr vote if you decide to, I guess...yeah, I don't like it, this doesn't make sense. also those posts are train wrecks of garbage (see what I did there) but crappy play isn't the main problem

need to look at osseric tomorrow and hopefully ven / hanas show up. I was here to switch if needed anyway, knowing that if I pulled my vote from ven everything unbalances and thyr is the only target. it seems like osseric cares more about thyr not getting lynched than lynching ven, and I don't like that either, when thyr was ahead 3/4.

remove vote

vote thyrllan


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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:09 PM

View PostRuse, on 15 May 2020 - 06:17 PM, said:

Yesterday was a bad day for me with my wrist potentially seriously injured. Sorry about the lack of activity.

Don't have the time to catch up currently but I will be around to vote if needed.


Sorry about your wrist, but what does that mean? Someone should point you who to lynch?

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:14 PM

View PostSkintick, on 15 May 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 3 hours left

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


4 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric
5 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait,Tennes
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.

3 hours, and our best lynch is L-5



intersetingly there were 3 cases and decent options today that came out - hanas ven and thyr - but only thyr has voted, and for fandy of all people. I mean yeah OK my post count is pretttty low but I can't remember anything about fandy, why vote there after flooding the thread with quotes and one-liners? I can't remember the reasoning but -

this does mean that hanas and ven may end up not voting at all, and all else equal thyr CF gives town more info simply because he voted. i do find it weird that 2 of the main 3 targets today haven't bothered to vote or defend themselves..or even post...sigh..

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:19 PM

View PostKilava, on 15 May 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

aah.... was copy pasta and clicked reply...

View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha is spreading his focus out very thin. To me it comes across as wanting to appear like they're looking at who's scum, but adding different players to their mix to broaden their chances.

I like the Hanas train except for Sheltatha being on it. The Thyrllan train would be easy to jump on. There's little friction to doing so.

Being the filthy low poster, I need to look at the Venesara train in more detail, but I would happily vote for Sheltatha if there weren't two fundamental trains in process.

Thyrllan's train is the easiest to board.

I have to do the most with my time, which is to see which lynch will shed the most light on the game. Which player has had the most connections.



View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

This post sticks out the most to me, and then there is the string of Thyrllan posts that are nothing short of boosting their post count. I could go with either.

vote Venesara

Around to switch votes to Thyrllan as well.



View PostOsseric, on 15 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

It's what I see. You don't have a train on you, and I'm not going to make a new one. Not right now.


this reads so weird to me, why the obsession with being on the "right" train, as if there were such a thing? he mentions hanas, thyr, and ven....then said he would vote shelly if not for the TWO trains going...OK....

thyr's train is easiest? you can go with either? you're around to switch? you will only vote for trains not start new ones?

@ this point ven is @ 3 and thyr is @ 4 and osseric drops a vote on ven to tie the votes and make either train viable now, it took a vote from tennes to put thyr ahead. why not just vote thyr if you think it is the best option, and why put your vote elsewhere? it looks like you are trying to push any opportunity to get ven lynched and hiding behind a proposed thyr vote if you decide to, I guess...yeah, I don't like it, this doesn't make sense. also those posts are train wrecks of garbage (see what I did there) but crappy play isn't the main problem

need to look at osseric tomorrow and hopefully ven / hanas show up. I was here to switch if needed anyway, knowing that if I pulled my vote from ven everything unbalances and thyr is the only target. it seems like osseric cares more about thyr not getting lynched than lynching ven, and I don't like that either, when thyr was ahead 3/4.

remove vote

vote thyrllan



Fully agreed. I don't like any of the votes on on Vesara until now except mine (and that included yours :D) So Imma switch before I leave for the night.

I would have preferred Hanas, but besides the strange timing of the first two votes, I can't say I disagree with anything that was said against Mr "How-do-you-do-fellow-average-town-people?"

remove vote


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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:21 PM

View PostKilava, on 15 May 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 15 May 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 3 hours left

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


4 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric
5 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait,Tennes
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.

3 hours, and our best lynch is L-5



intersetingly there were 3 cases and decent options today that came out - hanas ven and thyr - but only thyr has voted, and for fandy of all people. I mean yeah OK my post count is pretttty low but I can't remember anything about fandy, why vote there after flooding the thread with quotes and one-liners? I can't remember the reasoning but -

this does mean that hanas and ven may end up not voting at all, and all else equal thyr CF gives town more info simply because he voted. i do find it weird that 2 of the main 3 targets today haven't bothered to vote or defend themselves..or even post...sigh..





Thyr accused Fandy of coasting. Quoted a post where Fandy said they'd need a re-read, asked "did you ever finish it?" and left a vote to "encourage" them to contribute.




Fandy was somewhat defensive about their drive-by vote Okral Day 1 (they were 6th vote or thereabouts). But coming from Thyr as a conclusion to the catch-up tirade it didn't feel like a strong accusation.






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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:50 PM

It is day 2. About 2 hours 00 minutes remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


2 votes Venesara:Okaros, Osseric
7 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait, Tennes, Kilava, Kalse
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Ruse, Venesara.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 May 2020 - 08:05 PM

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 07:58 PM

Venesara should be on 2 (Kalse moved to Thyr) and Ruse hasn't voted either.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 08:15 PM

Vote Thyrllan

As the most likely lynch candidate at this stage. I note that I am completely fine with this lynch because it was rather interesting how D1 attention moved away from him.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 08:22 PM

View PostRuse, on 15 May 2020 - 08:15 PM, said:

Vote Thyrllan

As the most likely lynch candidate at this stage. I note that I am completely fine with this lynch because it was rather interesting how D1 attention moved away from him.


This is a bullshit reason, and everyone perpetuating this needs to be looked at closely.

2 joke votes in the early part of Day 1 do not equal to "attention" or 'a serious train"




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