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Mafia 150 - Lockdown Hell

#1541 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:33 PM

cross post with okaros @ #1535

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:35 PM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 03:32 PM, said:

I'm popping in and out

okaros that is the worst logic ever, worthy only of scum

did you ever respond about hanas? you were so sure earlier today when voting. now apparently it's possible that gait/me are your scum targets? what happened to hanas?

I have to say, it's not impossible, but does anyone really think we're goign to find both scum today? playing this up by pairing everyone off seems a mite suspicious




Are you only responding when your name is called up?

And yes, I did respond to your Hanas question, it's up there somewhere.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:35 PM

View PostOkaros, on 28 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 28 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

Why do we ignore a Hanas Aranatha combo?


Not really sure, actually probably best to just ignore my 'pairs' post. I suppose they seem quite willing to lynch Hanas now (though they've also just expressed a preference for you), although they did previously voice the opinion that Hanas is town (according to my notes, not sure when or in what context).


what? seriously? we should just ...ignore what you posted about most of the other players in the game? are you insane?

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:36 PM

I'm off for a bit, need to do something other than mafia today!

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:38 PM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 28 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 28 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

Why do we ignore a Hanas Aranatha combo?


Not really sure, actually probably best to just ignore my 'pairs' post. I suppose they seem quite willing to lynch Hanas now (though they've also just expressed a preference for you), although they did previously voice the opinion that Hanas is town (according to my notes, not sure when or in what context).


what? seriously? we should just ...ignore what you posted about most of the other players in the game? are you insane?




As in, ignore the pairings as a golden rule as they are by no means set in stone, as others have already pointed out. Kilava, you seem quite set on jumping on me every so often, only to then back away again later.

Anyways, laters.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:43 PM

View PostAranatha, on 28 May 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 May 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

Huh, maybe Kalava and Hanas is the scum that's left?

I feel like it's a good analysis on Hanas overall. Definitely a possible scum, and since he's been so under the radar aswell.

Vote Hanas


That makes three votes, just fyi.


lol so now which one of us is not scum based on your comments here? now that you're voting gait? if you really think gait is scum then both me and hanas can't be scum, right? so will you say that I'm still scum blah blah - even though you and I both voted for hanas based on a case?

i'd love to hear more about this. if you actually think I'm scum then you've bounced to 3 targets in the last hour or so and there are only 7 of us (minus ven)...

See now you're squirming. All I did was imply you could be scum, just like you're doing to me now. And I changed target because things were going a bit fast there, as Hanas pointed out. I baited and you apparently couldn't resists biting - is that how I should interpret this post? Really, I'm curious. What's going on buddy.


didn't answer the question... not very clever but still didn't answer. you are using...hanas as your excuse? you removed your vote from hanas to vote gait because...hanas pointed out things were moving fast? suddenly he isn't scum anymore? this is unreal.

#1547 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:48 PM

View PostOkaros, on 28 May 2020 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 28 May 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 28 May 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

Why do we ignore a Hanas Aranatha combo?


Not really sure, actually probably best to just ignore my 'pairs' post. I suppose they seem quite willing to lynch Hanas now (though they've also just expressed a preference for you), although they did previously voice the opinion that Hanas is town (according to my notes, not sure when or in what context).


what? seriously? we should just ...ignore what you posted about most of the other players in the game? are you insane?




As in, ignore the pairings as a golden rule as they are by no means set in stone, as others have already pointed out. Kilava, you seem quite set on jumping on me every so often, only to then back away again later.

Anyways, laters.


no, i pay attention when someone says "all these people could be scum for these reasons....wait, nevermind".

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 06:14 PM

View PostKilava, on 28 May 2020 - 03:43 PM, said:

you removed your vote from hanas to vote gait because...hanas pointed out things were moving fast? suddenly he isn't scum anymore? this is unreal.

That's some mental gymnastics if I ever saw some.
I never said he couldn't be scum, but I slowed down the train, because he was correct that it was going too fast - only scum would beg for a really fast lynch. Both him and others are possible lynch targets still.
If you really are town, you're not doing anyone a favor by panicking for just implying you could be scum lmao.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 07:36 PM

You didn't lynch me? How much time?

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 07:48 PM

Got it, never mind.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2020 - 12:11 PM, said:

It is day 6. 30 hours 20 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

3 votes for Gait; Fanderay, Aranatha, Okaros
1 votes Hanas; Gait


Players not voted; Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara.


I note that Aranatha is jumping quickly onto trains that are forming. Jumped 3rd onto me and 2nd on Gait. Still a long time to play, are you keen to get any train running?

Vote Aranatha

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:14 PM

View PostHanas, on 28 May 2020 - 07:48 PM, said:

Got it, never mind.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2020 - 12:11 PM, said:

It is day 6. 30 hours 20 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

3 votes for Gait; Fanderay, Aranatha, Okaros
1 votes Hanas; Gait


Players not voted; Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara.


I note that Aranatha is jumping quickly onto trains that are forming. Jumped 3rd onto me and 2nd on Gait. Still a long time to play, are you keen to get any train running?

Vote Aranatha

Not that long time left, and how is getting some extra time to think things over bad for town exactly? I've been clear with why I did what I did. But you're allowed to do whatever you want man, just make sure you're not being stupid on purpose.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:58 PM

Did I just write 'long time left' ROFL. But it's true, we don't have that many lynches and days left, if we take into account night kills. We better start getting wise about what we're doing.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 06:05 AM

It is day 6. 12 hours 20 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

3 votes for Gait; Fanderay, Aranatha, Okaros
1 votes Hanas; Gait
1 vote Aranatha; Hanas


Players not voted; Barghast, Kilava, Venesara.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 07:30 AM

View PostHanas, on 27 May 2020 - 08:57 PM, said:

Got distracted and I'm at L-1?

I hate to repeat old wisdom but this is sure looking like a speed lynch.

With both Kilava and Gait on my ass, look closely at them tomorrow.


Think Kilava and Gait are scum, votes for Aranatha. Could be distancing, could be not wanting to seem like a desperate scum by just placing a vote on Gait, and could be a moron.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:36 AM

At one point today, we had the following votes on Hanas:

Okaros, Gait, Aranatha, Kilava.

This means that scum were either: Hanas, or voting for Hanas, or both. There were only townies or presumed townies left who had not voted for Hanas.

Kilava originally voted after Gait, and then removed not wanting Hanas to be at L-2 so soon. Then Aranatha votes, and less than an hour after their original vote, Kilava puts theirs back on, now seemingly fine with L-1 so early in the day.

Aranatha then swaps their vote over to Gait, giving the same reason of being worried about a speed lynch.

I think it’s possible that Kilava removed because they realised they were voting straight after Gait, their partner. I find it curious why Kilava is resistant to voting for Gait, and asks me repeatedly if I still think Hanas is scum.

And it is possible that Hanas IS scum and another scum didn’t want to miss the train, hence the initial rapidity of the lynch developing on what is hopefully not d-day.

#1556 User is offline   Kilava 

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:38 AM

View PostAranatha, on 28 May 2020 - 10:14 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 28 May 2020 - 07:48 PM, said:

Got it, never mind.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2020 - 12:11 PM, said:

It is day 6. 30 hours 20 minutes remaining.

8 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara. 

5 votes to lynch.

3 votes for Gait; Fanderay, Aranatha, Okaros
1 votes Hanas; Gait


Players not voted; Barghast, Hanas, Kilava, Venesara.


I note that Aranatha is jumping quickly onto trains that are forming. Jumped 3rd onto me and 2nd on Gait. Still a long time to play, are you keen to get any train running?

Vote Aranatha

Not that long time left, and how is getting some extra time to think things over bad for town exactly? I've been clear with why I did what I did. But you're allowed to do whatever you want man, just make sure you're not being stupid on purpose.


I realize you gave a reason after the fact - and yes technically your actions did even out votes - I think the problem is that if you were really concerned about slowing down the trains to benefit town, you wouldn't have jumped directly to another train. You'd just remove vote, that stops/slows any train.

Instead you went after gait for presumably the case okaros made. So I see why it is hard to buy the extra time for town excuse

My gut screams ara and okaros are scum. I just can't shake it, don't know, something feels off. My brain says hanas is probably scum. Barg is off the radar today but he was posting earlier. Tbh I would prefer to reread gait before voting there, I am going mostly on what happened today, but I don't know if I have time for a full reread. I guess we will lose Ven to modkill which sucks.

But you know. How is fandy still alive? Seems he has made it the whole game without really getting into it with anyone. Am I misremembering? I do have to wonder if we are all pointing fingers at each other while scum coasts, several modkills also means we're less likely to lynch someone for not posting much.

I am back in a few hours prob, definitely before timeout

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:40 AM

View PostGait, on 28 May 2020 - 12:01 PM, said:


It shouldn't be hard to look at the Hanas switch and take not of the presence of scum, or lack there of. It shouldn't be hard to draw parallels to the Thyr Vote train. That's worth a look before you run after the scum diversion.



What do you mean by this? I think you’re talking about yesterday’s attempted lynch of Hanas, and yet you and Kilava are both on that train, so how exactly can we take note of the ‘lack thereof’ of the presence of scum on it when we don’t know your alignment?

What parallels is it that you want to draw with the Thyr train?

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:42 AM

Nice xpost after I left that in the fast reply forever

What makes you think I have resisted voting gait? If anything I should be praised for slowing the lynch down, right? It should be obvious that putting someone at L-1 midday while everyone agrees to take more time to talk is a bad idea right?

You don't use quotes often so it is hard to see where you draw your conclusions from

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:43 AM

I can't read the whole post atm so I'll be back. Sleep and all.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:44 AM

Kilava’s confusion over myself and Fanderay speaks to someone who has not read the thread properly, or a symp who’s just taking the piss now.

Shelly was killed off before myself or Fanderay, which confused me and I put down to my startlingly poor play keeping me alive, but then maybe unaware Kilava there decided to off the person who last placed a vote on them.

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