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#401 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 04:17 PM

View Posttwelve, on 20 October 2019 - 04:05 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 20 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

Okay, how many votes and on what terms? I'll definitely consider it if you are paying in votes.

As you probably recall I like to get a political PN as security for promised votes after someone welched on a deal in a previous game. To be traded back to you on providing of the votes. Willing to be flexible though.

Full disclosure, I'm hoping to work things out with the virus first but if that doesnt work this is my initial offer. I'll give 3 votes if you insist on my political secrets pn, 6 without it. You have to call in the votes before the first stage II public objectives are revealed and the agenda results cannot directly harm me unless I receive an agreed upon immediate compensation to allow it. Thoughts?


Since you have my sftt and I expect us to remain friends I'll do it for 6 votes on agendas that don't directly harm you I'll call them in soon i imagine.
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 04:44 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 20 October 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 20 October 2019 - 04:05 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 20 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

Okay, how many votes and on what terms? I'll definitely consider it if you are paying in votes.

As you probably recall I like to get a political PN as security for promised votes after someone welched on a deal in a previous game. To be traded back to you on providing of the votes. Willing to be flexible though.

Full disclosure, I'm hoping to work things out with the virus first but if that doesnt work this is my initial offer. I'll give 3 votes if you insist on my political secrets pn, 6 without it. You have to call in the votes before the first stage II public objectives are revealed and the agenda results cannot directly harm me unless I receive an agreed upon immediate compensation to allow it. Thoughts?


Since you have my sftt and I expect us to remain friends I'll do it for 6 votes on agendas that don't directly harm you I'll call them in soon i imagine.

Okay we have a deal.
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:02 PM

Twelve, think you'll make it to Silvano this round or na? I'm assuming no since it doesn't look like anything can reach it. Looks like I'm going to be retreating from Tau Bootis, but I can clear the airspace over Silvano again early next round.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:12 PM

View PostD, on 20 October 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

Twelve, think you'll make it to Silvano this round or na? I'm assuming no since it doesn't look like anything can reach it. Looks like I'm going to be retreating from Tau Bootis, but I can clear the airspace over Silvano again early next round.

Yeah not going to make it this round. Would still like to do it though. We can work it out for next round I guess. No worries on retreating.
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:55 PM

@morgoth. I was going to wash your commodities this turn.
I saw you said you traded 2 commodities but do I still have to specify I will trade them back this round ?
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 06:59 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 20 October 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

@morgoth. I was going to wash your commodities this turn.
I saw you said you traded 2 commodities but do I still have to specify I will trade them back this round ?


No, that shouldn't be necessary.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:53 AM

Ugh, all those beautiful, empty systems are filling up. I do not approve! Though it's getting quite tight between the warlike races to the south it seems to me.





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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:13 AM

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:20 AM

Nom I think.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:26 AM

Jazzarm, would you wash another commodity for me? How do you feel about swapping SFTT after I take Tar'mann back?
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

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Jazzarm, would you wash another commodity for me? How do you feel about swapping SFTT after I take Tar'mann back?


I see you getting pressured by Nekro and looking to solidify our borders before potentially overextending in your quest to liberate Tau Bootis from the Virus. The L1 would be more than happy to help you out to that end. Another wash is also possible, though I am currently sitting at 0 trade goods so it would have to be over two turns.

As for support swap, while I've been talking about that possibility with XXcha, it makes more sense to swap with you considering our many bordering systems, now and in the future.

The L1 does have a favor to ask in return, though. We have our own quest. As the descendents of the long-lost Lazax, our claim to Mecatol Rex rings truer than any other race's, but it seems to currently be occupied by some rather upstart plants. We request one free use of your famed Tekk'lar Legion, and the opportunity to buy it again when need arises.

Turtles, we unfortunately are unable to support two races for the throne simultaneously, but now that we've made our intentions known that should give you some assurances that you can go ahead and capture Daemon.

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:20 AM

View PostJazzarm, on 21 October 2019 - 11:02 AM, said:

Tattersail_ said:

1571646414[/url]' post='1386444']
Jazzarm, would you wash another commodity for me? How do you feel about swapping SFTT after I take Tar'mann back?


I see you getting pressured by Nekro and looking to solidify our borders before potentially overextending in your quest to liberate Tau Bootis from the Virus. The L1 would be more than happy to help you out to that end. Another wash is also possible, though I am currently sitting at 0 trade goods so it would have to be over two turns.

As for support swap, while I've been talking about that possibility with XXcha, it makes more sense to swap with you considering our many bordering systems, now and in the future.

The L1 does have a favor to ask in return, though. We have our own quest. As the descendents of the long-lost Lazax, our claim to Mecatol Rex rings truer than any other race's, but it seems to currently be occupied by some rather upstart plants. We request one free use of your famed Tekk'lar Legion, and the opportunity to buy it again when need arises.

Turtles, we unfortunately are unable to support two races for the throne simultaneously, but now that we've made our intentions known that should give you some assurances that you can go ahead and capture Daemon.



Your support for the Sardakk for the throne rings hollow when in the same breath you talk about your right to MR. I can see why you were usurped ;)
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:32 AM

I wanted to let you know my thoughts were heading towards you having my SFTT before you traded it away as I'd not want conflict from both of my neighbours. I did offer Nekro my support and offer trade relations but it was not meant to be. My goal was and still is to reach towards the center for the galaxy and peace of mind between at least one of my neighbours would be a good step in that direction.

As for my racial PN i'll have to give it some thought.

Is there a place to view all racial PN's? Maybe Blend can add that to the reference thread.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:40 AM

Okay L1, how about we trade Racial PN's, you promise not to trade it away and i'll promise not to pop yours until your strategy pool is at 0?

This could be something we can do regularly and with SFTT swap it may be quite a fruitful relationship.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:40 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 October 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

Your support for the Sardakk for the throne rings hollow when in the same breath you talk about your right to MR. I can see why you were usurped ;)


I support Sardakk as the new rulers of the Mordai throne.

As for what Tekklar Legion does:

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View PostTattersail_, on 21 October 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:

Okay L1, how about we trade Racial PN's, you promise not to trade it away and i'll promise not to pop yours until your strategy pool is at 0?

This could be something we can do regularly and with SFTT swap it may be quite a fruitful relationship.



Unfortunately L1's note doesn't work like Sol's or Barony's, where they can be used without cost to their owners. You can only cash in the L1Z1X note when the L1 player has a token to lose - and I don't have spare tokens to lose, so it's not on the table.

I'm not asking for Tekklar now, just to hand it to me when I'm in a ground combat with someone else, to be used right away. There's no cost to you but it helps me out. Much like me washing you ;)

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:56 AM

Waiting for my second math test today, will post my turn when I'm home
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:01 PM

View PostJazzarm, on 21 October 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:


Unfortunately L1's note doesn't work like Sol's or Barony's, where they can be used without cost to their owners. You can only cash in the L1Z1X note when the L1 player has a token to lose - and I don't have spare tokens to lose, so it's not on the table.

I'm not asking for Tekklar now, just to hand it to me when I'm in a ground combat with someone else, to be used right away. There's no cost to you but it helps me out. Much like me washing you ;)


I am not sure we played it that way. It'd be interesting to look back and find out!
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:31 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 October 2019 - 12:01 PM, said:

View PostJazzarm, on 21 October 2019 - 11:40 AM, said:


Unfortunately L1's note doesn't work like Sol's or Barony's, where they can be used without cost to their owners. You can only cash in the L1Z1X note when the L1 player has a token to lose - and I don't have spare tokens to lose, so it's not on the table.

I'm not asking for Tekklar now, just to hand it to me when I'm in a ground combat with someone else, to be used right away. There's no cost to you but it helps me out. Much like me washing you ;)


I am not sure we played it that way. It'd be interesting to look back and find out!


We did it correctly in game 2, at least.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:41 PM

We've always played it where the L1z1x need to have a CT, otherwise you can get silly things where Sol and L1z1x can generate nigh on infinite infantry by trading their PN back and forth.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:45 PM

I saw the lovely possibilities!
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