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#3041 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 29 February 2020 - 08:19 AM

View PostItwæs Nom, on 27 February 2020 - 06:38 PM, said:

Well I was gonna research a single tech but if I get a free refresh and a comm swap and 3tg to cover the costs of second research then I'll do instinct training and promise to use it on toast if he has one


That would be good, but if I'm going to go all out on Toasters homeworld I don't want to be paying for this.
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Posted 29 February 2020 - 08:33 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 29 February 2020 - 08:19 AM, said:

View PostItwæs Nom, on 27 February 2020 - 06:38 PM, said:

Well I was gonna research a single tech but if I get a free refresh and a comm swap and 3tg to cover the costs of second research then I'll do instinct training and promise to use it on toast if he has one


That would be good, but if I'm going to go all out on Toasters homeworld I don't want to be paying for this.


Alright I think I can do this with only the refresh and a swap, tho then I will likely not be able to play an ac I have ready in the way I intended to but I don't see anyone giving me the tgs so I'm just gonna check my calculations and go through with it if it fits together
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Posted 29 February 2020 - 08:38 AM

Anyone any idea when's Tapper playing leadership?
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Posted 29 February 2020 - 08:53 AM

He says he can delay two more turns, potentially more with an action card.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 04:29 PM

Hey Toaster:

If you can find a way to make D'rek use her 'cancel action' action now, I won't aid in the imminent takeover of your dominions.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 06:54 PM

D'Rek can score the 6 tokens this round.
So stopping me without stopping her is useless.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 06:58 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 01 March 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hey Toaster:

If you can find a way to make D'rek use her 'cancel action' action now, I won't aid in the imminent takeover of your dominions.


I can never bring or get enough plastic. It would also cost me a token. Considering D'rek finish this round we are not playing another round.

So good luck to you guys stopping me and D'Rek.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:21 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 01 March 2020 - 06:58 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 01 March 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hey Toaster:

If you can find a way to make D'rek use her 'cancel action' action now, I won't aid in the imminent takeover of your dominions.


I can never bring or get enough plastic. It would also cost me a token. Considering D'rek finish this round we are not playing another round.

So good luck to you guys stopping me and D'Rek.


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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:36 PM

And didn't you say you were going to spend 2 tokens so we'd trust you wouldn't win this turn? D'reks move was obvious, if you show you can't score this turn by spending some tokens I'll turn my fleets away from you and towards d'rek.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:45 PM

Did anyone draw plague? Removing just a few infantry on Toaster’s homeworld would give me a decent shot at taking it I think. Without plague it becomes more of a 50:50.
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:52 PM

The wormhole pn is still in Toaster's hands right?
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Posted 01 March 2020 - 08:55 PM

Yeah. It's probably the only way anyone apart from twelve can make an assault on d'reks homeworld as well, and because of d'reks copied tech really needs to be two people.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 02:01 AM

I am all for the wormhole token finally being played. Let chaos ensue!
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 05:28 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 March 2020 - 08:36 PM, said:

And didn't you say you were going to spend 2 tokens so we'd trust you wouldn't win this turn? D'reks move was obvious, if you show you can't score this turn by spending some tokens I'll turn my fleets away from you and towards d'rek.


That was before it was clear that she can win this round .
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:09 AM

View PostToasTer86, on 02 March 2020 - 05:28 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 March 2020 - 08:36 PM, said:

And didn't you say you were going to spend 2 tokens so we'd trust you wouldn't win this turn? D'reks move was obvious, if you show you can't score this turn by spending some tokens I'll turn my fleets away from you and towards d'rek.


That was before it was clear that she can win this round .


I mean that was clear from the strategy phase after a cursory look at the board. With you on board it becomes much easier to stop her.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:22 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 07:09 AM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 02 March 2020 - 05:28 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 March 2020 - 08:36 PM, said:

And didn't you say you were going to spend 2 tokens so we'd trust you wouldn't win this turn? D'reks move was obvious, if you show you can't score this turn by spending some tokens I'll turn my fleets away from you and towards d'rek.


That was before it was clear that she can win this round .


I mean that was clear from the strategy phase after a cursory look at the board. With you on board it becomes much easier to stop her.


My 2 dreadnoughts and 4 fighters from Tequ'ran // Torkan, won't help in this situation

They are blocked in position anyway, and as I have not Dread II or Carrier II or Fighter II . I don't see what I can do while being surrounded and having guns pointed at my face.

Explain to me what I can do to help, and I might be able to.
But I think she has 1 or more cease fires. She has Xxcha stop ability. She got her use out of Mecatol and her 3 VP so she does not care about mecatol anymore.
So we would need at least 2 people with enough forces to threaten her to be able to reach her home system. Because the first person she will just burn a token on.
She has blocked off the path to her home system quite well.

Tell me how I can stop her ??

To be honest the best way to stop her, is by doing nothing, she will lose the game if I win. If you guys do not commit to stopping me, she has to stop me, that will cost her tokens she does not have.
This tactic will have 4 outcomes:
1. she succeeds at stopping me, without burning her chances to win, then well you guys can try to stop her
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she succeeds at stopping me, but she also threw out her own chances to win
3. she does not succeed at stopping me, but had to commit enough resources that she can't win. Now you guys can help to stop me
4. she does nothing and looses because I win.

Playing this way forces D'rek to commit first, which stops her, which is the best thing I can do to stop her. If I just willy nilly burn some tokens now she will go into full defence mode.

So basically, who wins is this game is up to you guys. Either you help D'rek by stopping me first. Or you let D'rek do her own dirty work and automatically blow her own chances to win.

Will let you guys think about this, and get back to me with a reponse before I post my move.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:39 AM

D'rek what are you offering to the stop Toaster party?
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:13 AM

Well, I have plague now, so there are some options avilable to us.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:34 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 02 March 2020 - 08:13 AM, said:

Well, I have plague now, so there are some options avilable to us.


Has plague been played before?




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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:37 AM

@Toaster,

you think your use of the wormhole will help?
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