[Galactic Council]

Jazzarm, on 05 December 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 05 December 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

Jazz:

Jazzarm, on 03 December 2019 - 07:57 PM, said:

Pop Trade. +3 TG. Assuming Toaster pops L1 Trade Agreement, gain no commodities.

Refresh everyone. Cash in Naalu, Nekro, Arborec Trade Agreements. +9 TG

Trade 4:4 with Nom. (Turn their commodities into TG's for free)

Trade 3:3 with Tatts. (ditto)

Most of this is impossible as no one has yet refreshed their commodities. Given secondaries happen at the beginning of each player's turns rather than immediately after a primary is played, you cannot trade with folks who haven't yet refreshed (unless they already have TGs with which to trade), nor can you claim the TGs from your use of other people's Trade Agreements until they actually refresh.

For the commodity swaps, please let the players post it on their turns once they have commodities.

For the Trade Agreements, you can always let me know via your Game PM which Trade Agreements you will want to use this round and I will add their uses in on each of the players' turns.

Old habits die hard. Apologies for messing up the PBF following-secondaries system.

I'll edit the post.

No worries, I know the secondaries thing is different. In our first game or two some of our players who had already played the game and even some of the players who hadnt still did it! We learn with experience!

[ToasTer86]

We had a dutch holiday yesterday, sorry for delay. Writing up my turn now.

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 06 December 2019 - 07:26 AM

[Khellendros]

Tatts, what are you getting for making Jazz speaker?

[Galactic Council]

ToasTer86, on 06 December 2019 - 07:10 AM, said:

We had a dutch holiday yesterday, sorry for delay. Writing up my turn now.

No worries, I'm sure even the Dutch don't have as many holidays as the English do!

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 06 December 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:

Tatts, what are you getting for making Jazz speaker?

Since posting up over a week ago about offers for speaker, it's now you want to ask me that question?

He gave me a free refresh and washed my commodities. I was going to get nothing if I selected myself, which is what I was going to do. I did offer it to Toaster, and waived my right to first pick, but he did not come back to me with a deal.

[Tattersail_]

Tattersail_, on 02 December 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 02 December 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 02 December 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

I am thinking of making myself speaker. Any incentive to make someone else speaker, I am all ears.

I currently have a trade deal in place for everyone except you. I could buy it for a refresh, wash, and you keep firstpick?

Toaster, would you let me hold Fornacis for a round for Corner the Market? If there are no objections from Nom. If yes what's your price?

So you are offering me first pick, and a free refresh with wash.

So if anyone can better this deal then I am all ears. I'll waiver first pick for more as I know the speaker token is going to become a big deal.

Jazz's offer will be accepted. Nom cannot receive speaker token but he could add to someone behind him.

Toaster/Nom - I'd require 6 Tg's (to cover free refresh and wash) and 10 votes (you can ask Nom to chip in 3 Tg each and 5 votes each on one of the coming agendas? I would not stipulate which strategy I want so I'd be waivering first pick.

Morgoth/Khell/IH/Twelve/D'rek - depends on who wants it really. I'd customise the sale of speaker, the further away from me the lesser chance I have of gaining a strategy I'd want. I'd need to know

[Tattersail_]

(felt like a week those 4 days )

[Tattersail_]

Whoever is taking politics secondary, don't forget to let Blend know, so he can draw them ready for your turn.

[Tattersail_]

Oooh be prepared for those wormholes guys. Agendas are tasty. I'm the symp.

[Jazzarm]

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 10:18 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 05 December 2019 - 09:24 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

Anyways, I won't hold up the game any longer, apologies for that.

@ Jazz: I hope we can stick to our half-discussed deal. Remember, there's 2TGs and no interference from me next round in it for you if you leave Wellon/Tar'Mann alone this round. Otherwise, there's no TGs, ugly looks, and two nasty action cards headed your way if you do.

I've told you my price (2tg+wellon+tarmann), it's up to Tatts to confirm whether they're ok with giving me uncontested access to Wellon and Tar'mann next round.

I might have another deal for you but you're going to have to hold on a while before I can talk about it.

It's my action now. I can either go on Wellon now and build up Lodd Eru, or build at home and let all of this happen. But I need to know what I get out of it first. I'll hold my turn for a few hours.

[Khellendros]

Jazzarm, on 06 December 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 10:18 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 05 December 2019 - 09:24 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

Anyways, I won't hold up the game any longer, apologies for that.

@ Jazz: I hope we can stick to our half-discussed deal. Remember, there's 2TGs and no interference from me next round in it for you if you leave Wellon/Tar'Mann alone this round. Otherwise, there's no TGs, ugly looks, and two nasty action cards headed your way if you do.

I've told you my price (2tg+wellon+tarmann), it's up to Tatts to confirm whether they're ok with giving me uncontested access to Wellon and Tar'mann next round.

I might have another deal for you but you're going to have to hold on a while before I can talk about it.

It's my action now. I can either go on Wellon now and build up Lodd Eru, or build at home and let all of this happen. But I need to know what I get out of it first. I'll hold my turn for a few hours.

Ok, if you go on Wellon now you have a fight on your hands, and I’m not just talking about the ships in Wellon. If you let me keep Wellon and Tar’Mann this round, you can move in freely next round (as well as get those 2TGs before this round is over) without a fight. As Tatts has my SftT, he won’t be able to contest them until I move out, so you can coordinate your takeover with me to your best advantage and build up the necessary protection. Which of course means that if you wanted to you could keep them indefinitely for further PO objectives, or sell them back to Tatts. I’ll throw in my Trade Agreement as well for you to use next round.

[Khellendros]

@IH: you should put in your post that we’ve exchanged commodities.

[D'rek]

How *are* you going to get those ships out of that space, anyways, Khell? You can't have another Silence of Space card...

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 December 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

How *are* you going to get those ships out of that space, anyways, Khell? You can't have another Silence of Space card...

Or do I?! No, wait, I don’t.

Most likely I will just send them off to MR or somewhere else to be sacrificed, if they need to be moved out of the way.

[twelve]

IH I thought you were going to wait to play construction.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 December 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

D, on 06 December 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

How *are* you going to get those ships out of that space, anyways, Khell? You can't have another Silence of Space card...

Or do I?! No, wait, I don’t.

Most likely I will just send them off to MR or somewhere else to be sacrificed, if they need to be moved out of the way.

If they're just going to die why would you waste a CT attacking them. Sounds like you'll more likely just say "Ok Jazz, you can kill them now" next round, neh?

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 December 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 December 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

D, on 06 December 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

How *are* you going to get those ships out of that space, anyways, Khell? You can't have another Silence of Space card...

Or do I?! No, wait, I don’t.

Most likely I will just send them off to MR or somewhere else to be sacrificed, if they need to be moved out of the way.

If they're just going to die why would you waste a CT attacking them. Sounds like you'll more likely just say "Ok Jazz, you can kill them now" next round, neh?

Neh. I’m very happy to move them out of the way.

[Jazzarm]

Khellendros, on 06 December 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 06 December 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 10:18 PM, said:

Jazzarm, on 05 December 2019 - 09:24 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 December 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

Anyways, I won't hold up the game any longer, apologies for that.

@ Jazz: I hope we can stick to our half-discussed deal. Remember, there's 2TGs and no interference from me next round in it for you if you leave Wellon/Tar'Mann alone this round. Otherwise, there's no TGs, ugly looks, and two nasty action cards headed your way if you do.

I've told you my price (2tg+wellon+tarmann), it's up to Tatts to confirm whether they're ok with giving me uncontested access to Wellon and Tar'mann next round.

I might have another deal for you but you're going to have to hold on a while before I can talk about it.

It's my action now. I can either go on Wellon now and build up Lodd Eru, or build at home and let all of this happen. But I need to know what I get out of it first. I'll hold my turn for a few hours.

Ok, if you go on Wellon now you have a fight on your hands, and I'm not just talking about the ships in Wellon. If you let me keep Wellon and Tar'Mann this round, you can move in freely next round (as well as get those 2TGs before this round is over) without a fight. As Tatts has my SftT, he won't be able to contest them until I move out, so you can coordinate your takeover with me to your best advantage and build up the necessary protection. Which of course means that if you wanted to you could keep them indefinitely for further PO objectives, or sell them back to Tatts. I'll throw in my Trade Agreement as well for you to use next round.

Alright, I do like money. Pay me 2tg and your TA now and I'll follow Construction on Lodd Eru, deal? That guarantees no interference from me this round.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 06 December 2019 - 08:40 PM, said:

IH I thought you were going to wait to play construction.

I realised what I was thinking of doing wouldn't work, and playing it earlier made sense. If you wanted me to play it at a certain time you should have said.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 06 December 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 December 2019 - 08:40 PM, said:

IH I thought you were going to wait to play construction.

I realised what I was thinking of doing wouldn't work, and playing it earlier made sense. If you wanted me to play it at a certain time you should have said.

Well you gave me the impression you were playing it later and that was what I was looking for so didnt think I needed to. I'll just deal with it.