[Morgoth]

You what now? You told me you’d give me a free refresh because of good neighbourly relations. No previous refreshes involved. If you realise there’s too few tgs coming in then at least be honest about why you’re going back on that promise.

[Tattersail_]

It's been a whole day since the start of your turn Toaster. Just post it already. You're playing trade, everyone has answered you.

[ToasTer86]

People made this hard, the meta I play in these are standard charges.

@Morgoth I found paying 1 for gaining 3 yourself was not a bad price. Freely giving out your IFF caused me to almost loose 2 points and has cost me 2 resources.
So sorry

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 22 November 2019 - 09:03 AM

[Morgoth]

ToasTer86, on 22 November 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

People made this hard, the meta I play in these are standard charges.

@Morgoth I found paying 1 for gaining 3 yourself was not a bad price. Freely giving out your IFF caused me to almost loose 2 points and has cost me 2 resources.
So sorry

It is not a bad price, though neither did I give away the IFF for free. None of that however changes that you a mere day ago - what, one page back, two? - stated quite clearly I'd get a free refresh. You've changed your mind in the interim, but not because of any of those reasons as they were well known to you at the time.

But sure, I'll pay the tg.

This post has been edited by Morgoth: 22 November 2019 - 09:23 AM

[ToasTer86]

Morgoth, on 22 November 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

ToasTer86, on 22 November 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

People made this hard, the meta I play in these are standard charges.

@Morgoth I found paying 1 for gaining 3 yourself was not a bad price. Freely giving out your IFF caused me to almost loose 2 points and has cost me 2 resources.
So sorry

It is not a bad price, though neither did I give away the IFF for free. None of that however changes that you a mere day ago - what, one page back, two? - stated quite clearly I'd get a free refresh. You've changed your mind in the interim, but not because of any of those reasons as they were well known to you at the time.

But sure, I'll pay the tg.

Like I said sorry. I edited my turn and added you as a refresh for 1TG.

But this now made a difference of me getting only 3 vs 7 TG.
Playing trade would have other wise been bad because you all got more TG'S then me.

I know I went back and forth , this was because I realized I had to be consistent about it which I was not up untill now.

All who gave me free. Got a free back.
All others had to pay 1 TG

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 22 November 2019 - 10:11 AM

[Tattersail_]

You cannot receive my TG yet as we don't border. So it will have to be later in the round.

[Khellendros]

I think about the Trade card more in the longer-term benefits rather than what I can immediately gain from it. For example, a mostly reliable way of ensuring that I can acquire trade goods every round, not just in the round in which I hold the card itself.

[Tattersail_]

IH is up.

[Khellendros]

Where did IH get that ton of TGs from? Quick, somebody call in the Mentak!

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 22 November 2019 - 12:53 PM

[D'rek]

Lol, so bitter, Toaster. You can't just not list me, you have to specifically type out an angsty "no refresh for D'rek 'cause she didn't take my offer!", this after the equally bitter "THIS PLANET ISN'T JUST EXHAUSTED, IT WAS EXHAUSTED BY D'REK AND YOU MUST ALL KNOW IT" insert from last round. Passive-aggressive, much?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 22 November 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

Where did IH get that ton of TGs from? Quick, somebody call in the Mentak!

No seriously, how did he?

3 turns ago he was at 7TG. Then 2 turns ago he was at 10TG, but I don't see anywhere that he gained 3TG in-between?

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 22 November 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 22 November 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

Where did IH get that ton of TGs from? Quick, somebody call in the Mentak!

No seriously, how did he?

3 turns ago he was at 7TG. Then 2 turns ago he was at 10TG, but I don't see anywhere that he gained 3TG in-between?

Should have been 7 last round as trade wasn't played, then gained 3 from toaster using his trade PN, sold my trade PN for 1tg and gained another for leaving toaster piscium

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 22 November 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

D, on 22 November 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 22 November 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

Where did IH get that ton of TGs from? Quick, somebody call in the Mentak!

No seriously, how did he?

3 turns ago he was at 7TG. Then 2 turns ago he was at 10TG, but I don't see anywhere that he gained 3TG in-between?

Should have been 7 last round as trade wasn't played, then gained 3 from toaster using his trade PN, sold my trade PN for 1tg and gained another for leaving toaster piscium

So on Toaster's turn he played the Trade primary at which point you immediately played the Naalu Trade PN which gave you 3 of his commodities (becoming trade goods) and then those 3 trade goods went back in time 8 turns to your previous turn where they showed up in your goods count...?

You're the Yin, not the Shapers of Dorado. No time travel allowed.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 13 November 2019 - 11:50 AM, said:

Pass

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 2
Strategy Card: Construction exhausted

Command Pools: 1T | 4F | 0S

Goods: 0/2 C | 4 TG
Action Cards: 3
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhausted
Starpoint (3/1) exhausted
New Albion (1/1/green) exhausted
Vefut (2/2) exhausted
Arnor (2/1) exhausted
Ensapta (0/2) exhausted
Lor (1/2) exhausted
Cygni (1/1) exhausted
Librae (0/2) exhausted

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 15 November 2019 - 10:21 AM, said:

Score own 4 planets of same type PO
Add 3 Ct, now 2/4/2
Draw 3 action cards

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 4F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 7 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 Naalu
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4)
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2)
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2)
Lor (1/2)
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2)

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 16 November 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

Recieve nekro antivirus

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 4F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 7 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 Naalu 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4)
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2)
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2)
Lor (1/2)
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2)

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Where did these 3 come from?

Imperial Historian, on 19 November 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

Leadership secondary exhaust darien, vefut ensapta, lor and librae +4Ct

Construction secondary - 1 Ct, build a PDS on starpoint

Warfare, fighter in darien

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 3T | 5F | 3S

Goods: 0/2 C | 10 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhaust
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2) exhaust
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2) exhaust
Lor (1/2) exhaust
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2) exhaust

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 22 November 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

Imperial secondary - 1Ct draw so
Trade secondary - refresh commodities

Activate piscium, cygni, libri
Move in carrier, 2 fighters and cruiser from arnor lor

Build 1 destroyer, 2 fighters exhaust cygni, sarween tools

Recieve 1 tg from Toaster for not invading piscium

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 5F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 12 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 3 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhaust
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2) exhaust
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2) exhaust
Lor (1/2) exhaust
Cygni (1/1) exhaust
Librae (0/2) exhaust

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

I don't think Naalu's is right either. They get 3 from popping trade, 1 from Morgoth, don't get mine until I can trade with them so that's only 4, where does the other one come from to make 6?

[ToasTer86]

Tattersail_, on 22 November 2019 - 03:35 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 13 November 2019 - 11:50 AM, said:

Pass

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 2
Strategy Card: Construction exhausted

Command Pools: 1T | 4F | 0S

Goods: 0/2 C | 4 TG
Action Cards: 3
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhausted
Starpoint (3/1) exhausted
New Albion (1/1/green) exhausted
Vefut (2/2) exhausted
Arnor (2/1) exhausted
Ensapta (0/2) exhausted
Lor (1/2) exhausted
Cygni (1/1) exhausted
Librae (0/2) exhausted

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 15 November 2019 - 10:21 AM, said:

Score own 4 planets of same type PO
Add 3 Ct, now 2/4/2
Draw 3 action cards

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 4F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 7 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 Naalu
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4)
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2)
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2)
Lor (1/2)
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2)

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 16 November 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

Recieve nekro antivirus

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 4F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 7 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 Naalu 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4)
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2)
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2)
Lor (1/2)
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2)

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Where did these 3 come from?

Imperial Historian, on 19 November 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

Leadership secondary exhaust darien, vefut ensapta, lor and librae +4Ct

Construction secondary - 1 Ct, build a PDS on starpoint

Warfare, fighter in darien

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 3T | 5F | 3S

Goods: 0/2 C | 10 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 2 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhaust
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2) exhaust
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2) exhaust
Lor (1/2) exhaust
Cygni (1/1)
Librae (0/2) exhaust

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

Imperial Historian, on 22 November 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

Imperial secondary - 1Ct draw so
Trade secondary - refresh commodities

Activate piscium, cygni, libri
Move in carrier, 2 fighters and cruiser from arnor lor

Build 1 destroyer, 2 fighters exhaust cygni, sarween tools

Recieve 1 tg from Toaster for not invading piscium

CURRENT STATUS
Victory Points: 3
Strategy Card:

Command Pools: 2T | 5F | 2S

Goods: 0/2 C | 12 TG
Action Cards: 6
Promissory Notes: 3 Yin 1 arborec 1 Letnev 1 neckro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 3 unfulfilled
Planets:
Darien (4/4) exhaust
Starpoint (3/1)
New Albion (1/1/green)
Vefut (2/2) exhaust
Arnor (2/1)
Ensapta (0/2) exhaust
Lor (1/2) exhaust
Cygni (1/1) exhaust
Librae (0/2) exhaust

Technologies:
+ Sarween Tools -- When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator -- During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Hyper Metabolism -- During the status phase, gain 3 command tokens instead of 2.
+ plasma scoring

Arborec sfft

I don't think Naalu's is right either. They get 3 from popping trade, 1 from Morgoth, don't get mine until I can trade with them so that's only 4, where does the other one come from to make 6?

Toaster
Morgoth +1 TG for refresh
Changed -1 cause I did not get from tats

IH:
IH is +3 from my trade on
IH is +1 for his racial trade PN
IH is +1 for not invading my planet

So he should be net +5 now

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 22 November 2019 - 03:56 PM

[Imperial Historian]

My current total is right, i added 3 last turn by mistake because toaster retracted his trade play in between me starting posting and finishing

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 22 November 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

My current total is right, i added 3 last turn by mistake because toaster retracted his trade play in between me starting posting and finishing

But you still have 10 in the 2nd-most-recent turn

[Imperial Historian]

I have now removed it from my previous turn and gained 5 this turn.

[Khellendros]

“Pay 1TG for commodity refresh...unless you’re IH, in which case I’ll give you 5!”

[ToasTer86]

Khellendros, on 22 November 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

“Pay 1TG for commodity refresh...unless you’re IH, in which case I’ll give you 5!”

He paid 1 just like the rest.


But he gave me his trade PN so he got 1 return
+1. / Toaster +2
He had my trade PN
+3
He did not take my planet which is worth 1 resource this round / potentially 1 next round
+1