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#1001 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 08:26 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 November 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 07:04 PM, said:

View PostD, on 06 November 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

Bloody complicated deal you guys are making.

So in the end, Nom is getting a total of 3 TG and 6 votes to make Twelve the Speaker?

Wait what? I thought IH was getting speaker and was planning on getting politics to make me speaker next round? So who do I owe the 3 votes to?



Don’t let those Nekro mind drones confuse you. It’s 1tg and 3 votes (your three votes) to make IH speaker :p

So I'm paying 3 votes to be last in strategy order. Why am I doing this again?


To be first next time :)
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 08:27 PM

There is no complexity, you lot are just trying to confuse poor Nom and Twelve :p
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:05 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 05:51 PM, said:

(original just accidentally deleted){
Oh

Thanks

The offer still stands I guess
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Also just realised you were talking about my trade pn instead of racial but again for the same reasons that's too steep a price for me but I offer the 3 votes and 1 tg from whoever owns them at the time of transfer


But you will take only 1 planet right ? The hazordous one : Fornacis. If you land on the cultural one you block my point.

Let's hope I have enough counters to move out and move into the other cultural this round. Let's hope D'rek uses leadership faster. It would make the round go faster
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 06 November 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 05:51 PM, said:

(original just accidentally deleted){
Oh

Thanks

The offer still stands I guess
}


Also just realised you were talking about my trade pn instead of racial but again for the same reasons that's too steep a price for me but I offer the 3 votes and 1 tg from whoever owns them at the time of transfer


But you will take only 1 planet right ? The hazordous one : Fornacis. If you land on the cultural one you block my point.

Let's hope I have enough counters to move out and move into the other cultural this round. Let's hope D'rek uses leadership faster. It would make the round go faster


Yes only the hazardous one.

My mind isn't ready for this bs

Rn the deal should be, leaving me firstpick, leaving Naalu secondpick, free refreshes from Khell and Morghy, and 3 votes + tg from IH provided by whoever and I make IH speaker

?
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:20 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 06 November 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

Let's hope D'rek uses leadership faster. It would make the round go faster


I don't think me playing or not playing Leadership will make people post their turns quicker or slower. If anything, me not playing it will lead to people posting fewer (slow) turns before they pass.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:25 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

leaving me firstpick


5 different players are going to all leave you a particular SC? Seems unlikely that'll actually happen.

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

also leaving Naalu secondpick


Even less likely

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

free refreshes from Khell and Morghy


Getting less and less likely to ever actually happen as we move into the mid/late game.

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

3 votes + tg from IH provided by whoever and I make IH speaker


So IH is basically getting Speaker for free this round. You could have really milked a lot more out of this from him than just 1 TG from someone else entirely. And 3 measly votes is basically nothing in a game this big. IH gave a lot less to Twelve in exchange for 6 votes earlier this game...

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:37 PM

Yeah I dont think I want any part of this deal any more. IH has a seriously uncanny knack of getting good deals. Probably why he has won twice already.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:58 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

Yeah I dont think I want any part of this deal any more. IH has a seriously uncanny knack of getting good deals. Probably why he has won twice already.


Hey you are getting speaker for 3 votes, that's an absoloute bargain for you :p
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:00 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

Yeah I dont think I want any part of this deal any more. IH has a seriously uncanny knack of getting good deals. Probably why he has won twice already.


It’s because no one ever contests him, part of the reason why I simply said I’d double his offer, just to get him to put something else on the table. At least he then conceded to keeping Politics on this side.

I don’t remember anything about Naalu second pick or free refreshes, but I’m unlikely to pick Trade anyway.

If Twelve is out then I’m happy to go back to my 2TG, 6 votes offer to Nom to be named Speaker rather than IH.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:03 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 06 November 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

Yeah I dont think I want any part of this deal any more. IH has a seriously uncanny knack of getting good deals. Probably why he has won twice already.


Hey you are getting speaker for 3 votes, that's an absoloute bargain for you :p

I hate when the speaker token is part of an alliance of players. I cant be part of what I see as a problem if I ever want this behavior to change.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:11 PM

I get contested!

I think it's a great deal for all concerned (well it sucks for D'rek and tatts but unsurprisingly they doth protest) , but you guys do you.

The really interesting thing about the whole deal is nom has to make someone else speaker, and wants to remain early in the pick order so it's a lot less valuable than it would normally be.

And for what it's worth twelve im certainly not interested in getting involved in am alliance to keep the speaker token on one side of the table.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:34 PM

I assumed it would go to toaster or morgoth but all the way back defeated the purpose of the negotiation.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:39 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 November 2019 - 10:34 PM, said:

I assumed it would go to toaster or morgoth but all the way back defeated the purpose of the negotiation.


Well Nom originally offered it to me (for a free refresh if I took Trade, now I remember!), but then IH just had to get involved :p

Anyways, offer stands Nomnom.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:18 PM

Does Tatts know it's his turn right? What is he waiting for?
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:23 PM

Alright, I'm here and working on catching up on resolutions and stuff!
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:35 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 06 November 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 November 2019 - 10:34 PM, said:

I assumed it would go to toaster or morgoth but all the way back defeated the purpose of the negotiation.


Well Nom originally offered it to me (for a free refresh if I took Trade, now I remember!), but then IH just had to get involved :p

Anyways, offer stands Nomnom.


Didn't have to pick trade, just leave the first and second pick

And yeah I'll happily accept the counter offer unless ih wants to offer more
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:40 PM

View PostD, on 06 November 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

leaving me firstpick


5 different players are going to all leave you a particular SC? Seems unlikely that'll actually happen.

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

also leaving Naalu secondpick


Even less likely

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

free refreshes from Khell and Morghy


Getting less and less likely to ever actually happen as we move into the mid/late game.

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

3 votes + tg from IH provided by whoever and I make IH speaker


So IH is basically getting Speaker for free this round. You could have really milked a lot more out of this from him than just 1 TG from someone else entirely. And 3 measly votes is basically nothing in a game this big. IH gave a lot less to Twelve in exchange for 6 votes earlier this game...


The former offer of 3 people before me was already agreed, the naalu second pick is me being nice before asking for the planet of theirs

The 3 votes are still useful for preventing someone from voting on a certain idea

And the whole point of this thing for me is to move the politics pick to a poaition that suits me better
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 November 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

Does Tatts know it's his turn right? What is he waiting for?


Battle resolution on Nevant. I'll take my turn in the morning.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:44 PM

And yeah I'm generally open to hearing any counteroffers or bribes regarding course of my action and whatnot
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:53 PM

Alrighty, all resolved and caught up!

Apologies again for the wait on the Nevant resolution.
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