[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 21 August 2019 - 06:53 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 21 August 2019 - 06:50 PM, said:

What is wrong with my current formatting. I am currently desktop (and have been for the last several hours).

I find that nesting colours into quotes gets hard to keep track of quite quickly. Like if there's a couple of back and forth exchanges it becomes a total rainbow mess.

Given that there is just one color... cry me a river.

[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 21 August 2019 - 06:50 PM, said:

What is wrong with my current formatting. I am currently desktop (and have been for the last several hours).

If it is any help (and if you even would believe me at all), I did believe what I was writing about you. I was looking at each person on day 1 with different eyes and saw a lot of alt names cross your posts. I wrongly interpreted that as fingering a lot of people, which obviously was a mischaracterization. That doesn't mean I absolve you or think your activity since then is clean, free of suspicion. But I wasn't even done yet with a reread, mostly writing things down as I went, when you called me out and then proceeded to crawl down my gullet. And backing off (both intentionally and due to a busy day yesterday without a computer) apparently let other people think through things not involving just my faux pas (and even noting my potato tomato fuckup, which ironically I was not aware of even up to the the point Gamelon was asking me what I said).

So yes, I have been stupid this game at times. And yes, a lot of the perceived pity-parties are sincere apologetics as I try to contribute but fuck up quite a bit. So take it or leave it. But claiming you are pure and holier than me is laughable.

I'm hardly claiming my opinion is holy. I'm saying that I think most players here are not stupid, they think about what they're posting, and they do it for a reason. So when you post something that you won't stand by five minutes later it somewhat sets off alarm bells. Ultimately, I just kind of don't see how you make that misrepresentation from those facts. Not in such a convenient way as to only name the survivors.

Concretely, you took me asking Rikkter about Ven's case and me saying positive things about you and turned that into me swinging at both of you. I'm just not sure how that leap happens from a town player. Like, in concrete terms, your claim is that your analysis was just that you saw me say names? But then you missed out names that I actually did say.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 7 hours and 54 minutes remaining
6 Players still alive: Gait, Gamelon, Kilava, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Gait, Gamelon, Kilava, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara

[Gamelon]

Timeout falls at a really bad time for me, in the wee small hours. Which means I’m going to have to vote in the next couple of hours or not vote at all.

[Venesara]

I've read up.

Gamelon, what is your read on Shel? If you don't buy the reveal, why are you not throwing your weight behind a push for Shel, who you've now said explicitly is scum due to fake reveal?

Kilava has been skating around aimlessly it feels like. I don't like their play either but if we vote, we obviously vote *top* choice for scum, or else we lose. Why is Kilava your top pick for scum?

[Rikkter]

Back! Sorry been sleeping all day

[Gait]

Gamelon, on 21 August 2019 - 09:19 PM, said:

Timeout falls at a really bad time for me, in the wee small hours. Which means I’m going to have to vote in the next couple of hours or not vote at all.

Yeah, the timeout hour is rough :/.

With four votes needed and four town left, Rikkter's absence is throwing a major spanner in the works. If Rikkter is town then we don't have the numbers for a lynch unless scum kindly vote for each other. So where does that leave us? Not with great options.

[Gait]

X-post of course

[Rikkter]

When is timeout ?

[Gait]

A little more than 6 hours away by my count.

[Rikkter]

Ok I’ve gotten past a couple pages but still reading. Shelly’s reveal does seem odd given our numbers and PG CFING as a healer. Also the potato thing felt off. If we had/have roles town then I have to go back to Mess’ play. His self vote screams symp to me, with him having little time for full symp mode. I’m going back to day 2.

[Rikkter]

Damnit, I don’t get anything else out of day 2 except for some talk on Kilava and Shelly

[Gait]

3 scum would be really high for a 10 person game. Like, with that setup you could easily have a town lynch on day one and then D-Day on day two.

It's mathematically implausible imo.

[Rikkter]

Gait, on 21 August 2019 - 10:53 PM, said:

3 scum would be really high for a 10 person game. Like, with that setup you could easily have a town lynch on day one and then D-Day on day two.

It's mathematically implausible imo.

But a healer and guard are reasonable?

[Gait]

Rikkter, on 21 August 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

Gait, on 21 August 2019 - 10:53 PM, said:

3 scum would be really high for a 10 person game. Like, with that setup you could easily have a town lynch on day one and then D-Day on day two.

It's mathematically implausible imo.

But a healer and guard are reasonable?

No, personally, I don't think they are. Like I've said, I think Shel is faking.

[Gamelon]

Venesara, on 21 August 2019 - 09:39 PM, said:

I've read up.

Gamelon, what is your read on Shel? If you don't buy the reveal, why are you not throwing your weight behind a push for Shel, who you've now said explicitly is scum due to fake reveal?

Kilava has been skating around aimlessly it feels like. I don't like their play either but if we vote, we obviously vote *top* choice for scum, or else we lose. Why is Kilava your top pick for scum?

I...did not say that re Shel. In fact I do just about buy their reveal because of that potato slip.

Kilava has almost exclusively posted today to try and rebut things I’ve said about them, rather than making their own case.

[Gamelon]

In fact this post below is their only contribution of where we stand for today, and all it says is, “well, could be this, could be that”. Other than for me, but then, who is my partner Kilava?

This kind of post smacks of someone waiting to see where the wind blows before saying anything of commitment.

Kilava, on 21 August 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

My thoughts for this day:
Shel's reveal could be scum fake revealing, but I'm torn because he comes off as so sincere, it's up in the air for me whether he's lying or not. I'm confused by all the potato discussion, seems like a mistake to me more than anything else.
Ven is obviously inno, however I'm trying not to buy everything he says as gospel, since he knows as much as the rest of us, even though it's easier to trust him ofcourse.
I find it hard to pin point Gait, which is suspicious in itself, honestly I've been busy untangling the Gamelon-Sheltatha-Barghast situation to focus much on anything else. I know that has to change now.
Rikkter is a weird one - could very well be scum coasting the hell out of this game, although the early game he did stick his head out, but everybody has to do that at some point or it will look suspicious.
Gamelon is the scummiest to me right now. He's done the same spiel the entire game - a lot of noise but hardly any commitment and weird ass voting. Could be that's just his weird ass play style. But ngl the way he's so 'sure' about me makes me want to lynch him, OMGUS or not.
I've been accused of coasting, which I find very unfair - I've been around (for the most part), and been ready to help with lynches during timeouts and I've had no problem sticking my head out to get information. You might dislike my playstyle this game, but not everyone will play a game the same. Just because you use multi quotes doesn't mean you actually are saying anything more than if you just referenced something. I think people get confused about that sometimes.

That's all I have to say for now, I think.

[Gamelon]

Gait, you have claimed OMGUS like three or four times now this game.

[Gait]

Gamelon, on 21 August 2019 - 11:05 PM, said:

Gait, you have claimed OMGUS like three or four times now this game.

Do you have specific cases where you think this was hugely unjustified? OMGUS isn't exactly a rare thing, and it's been quite an OMGUSy game relatively speaking.

[Gait]

Like, there's a reason we have an acronym for it. It's like complaining that someone has mentioned WIFOM reasoning three whole times.