[Kilava]

Wait did I understand it correctly - Gamelon voted for me then went on vacation? Or did I read that wrong?

[Prazec Goul]

Gamelon, on 20 August 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Kilava and Barghast, or Kilava and Gait. Well, common denominator it is Kilava.

Vote Kilava

These are my three suspects, and I'm finding it most hard to see a Barghast-Gait connection out of the possible permutations, but I could be wrong about that. So that's why I'm voting the way I am. I've already stated that I won't be considering the others today, either because they are PI for me, or I just don't see much as scummy about them.

My plane is literally about to take off, so I won't be around anymore I'm afraid.

Voted, left and probably just wants to be lynched. This is the worst play from a town perspective.

[Gait]

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

It stinks more because of the time left in day and the two main suspects. Gamelon leaving off Shel like we should "look" there instead of at Barg?




I think Gamelon may be the best lynch for today for doing that.

Supposing Gamelon is partnered with either Barg or Shel, the question becomes: why not vote for the other one?

If he's partnered with Shel, I kind of think that he would've put Barg at equal votes rather than voting Kilava. He had already named Barg one of his main suspects so the set up was there. If he's partnered with Barg on the other hand, I can see him staying away from the Shel train. Shel looked more likely to be lynched (even calling himself the "prime lynch candidate") and if he's innocent then Gam could've turned around and played the off-train "told you so" card much like with GL.

I'm leaning Gam/Barg right now, it seems more plausible to me. I think I prefer to

Vote Barghast

Because I dislike the sense that he was setting up a railroad tomorrow, and because Shel/Barg strikes me as more plausible than Gam being partnered with Shel but choosing not to put Barg to parity.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 2 hours and 33 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Barghast, Gait, Gamelon, Kilava, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Prazec Goul )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Barghast ( Sheltatha Lore, Kilava, Gait )
2 Votes for Gamelon ( Venesara, Barghast )
1 Vote for Prazec Goul ( Rikkter )

Players not voted:

[Gait]

For the record, I should be around for time out .

[Prazec Goul]

Remove vote

Vote Gamelon




If he is going to be away, and the play this day stinks. He could definitely be scum. Other's may want to step in here, I'll switch if we cannot get the votes.

This post has been edited by Prazec Goul: 20 August 2019 - 01:37 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 2 hours and 22 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Barghast, Gait, Gamelon, Kilava, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Kilava ( Gamelon )
3 Votes for Barghast ( Sheltatha Lore, Kilava, Gait )
1 Vote for Prazec Goul ( Rikkter )
3 Votes for Gamelon ( Venesara, Barghast, Prazec Goul )

Players not voted:

[Venesara]

I'm here.

[Rikkter]

OK I'm awakish and sort of read what you posted while I was aleep. still a little drunk

[Rikkter]

why gamelon and not prazec? prazec revealed for no reason aftr a lot of heat.Were it me, I'd rather test his revral first then gamellm's lame defemdse

[Prazec Goul]

About 1 hour 10 minutes left. More than quick enough to skim the thread Rik, even 5 posts back.

[Venesara]

OK I got pulled away I'm back for real.

[Rikkter]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

why gamelon and not prazec? prazec revealed for no reason aftr a lot of heat.Were it me, I'd rather test his revral first then gamellm's lame defemdse

Me too

[Rikkter]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

why gamelon and not prazec? prazec revealed for no reason aftr a lot of heat.Were it me, I'd rather test his revral first then gamellm's lame defemdse

Me too

Drunk agre I b with nyseld

[Kilava]

LOL Rikkter is talking to himself.


I'll be around for the time that is left, in case I need to switch votes to get a lynch. I'd be okay with either of Barghast and Gamelon getting lynched, as I've said before, and now Gamelon will likely be modkilled either way, since it seems he's gone for a long time.

[Barghast]

This is a (long) sidenote. I said yesterday I will try to go over Gait's messages for peace of mind because it bothers me how little scrutiny they received so far. Not hugely relevant at the moment, because as things stand we only have time to go for me or Gamelon, but with the looming timeout I'd rather post it in case I'm not around for D4.

D1
Gait is the last person to check in. This leads to the Rikkter train but Gait does not immediately jump on board. They counter-vote Gamelon for a drive-by vote and it's hard to argue with the reason. Plenty of people have expressed doubts about Gam's coasting.
At the end of the day Gait x-posts with me and puts Rikkter at L-2.

Gait also does a bit of prodding and poking does a little bit of low-key defending of Sehltatha:

Gait, on 14 August 2019 - 07:15 PM, said:

I'm curious as to why Shelly moreso than Ven, and your general thoughts on Ven's post.

Gait, on 14 August 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

My initial feeling was that Shel's vote was a "poke and see what happens" type thing and I still buy that. Regarding my vote on Gamelon, the very easy "why not" bandwagon vote rubbed me the wrong way.

Rikkter's reaction has been rather OMGUS and I'm happy voting there.

Remove vote
Vote Rikkter

Barg's voting behaviour is also somewhat catching my attention at the moment. He didn't vote Rikkter earlier but he's now dropping a vote on Kilava, someone who currently has zero votes, with so little time remaining. I'm not sure what to make of Kilava but it's not generally the ideal time for a new train...

D2

Gait starts the LG train. In the moment, I thought they were making a good point:

Gait, on 14 August 2019 - 11:53 PM, said:

Reading back over it however, I am going to

Vote Galayn Lord

I had overlooked it until PG pointed it out but go look at the timing of GL's comment and what is going on around it. The few posts immediately before GL's comment include Shel's vote on Rikkter, Rikkter's reaction, Barghast weighing in, Ven's vote on Rikkter, and a couple of minutes after his post we get Rikkter's return vote on Shel... he's right there and he doesn't manage to comment on any of that? Even his response to me just makes some point about CFs rather than talking about, say, my vote. I think that deserves scrutiny.

On a re-read, however, it does look like a bit of a pattern. Gait picks on a potential coaster again and starts to build a train on them. If Gait is a killer then they are just picking easy targets - it's hard to argue against lynching a coaster. And it's worked excellently for Gait so far: like I said earlier, they have received close to no scrutiny at all in the game so far.

Then there's a bit of re-applied pressure to Gamelon:

Gait, on 15 August 2019 - 11:33 AM, said:

I see Gamelon is also playing the OMGUS game.

All in all, Gait looks happy to keep putting pressure on coasters. They eventually take down and re-apply their vote on Galayn. It was covered in some previous discussion. I think it was a bad move but Gait's reasoning doesn't read to me as scummy.

D3

Gait opens D3 with a vote on Prazec. It was already after Prazec has been called out for throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. The pattern continues - another day, another attempt at Gait to build momentum for an easy lynch. This time it's ruined by Prazec's reveal, so Gait quickly retracts their vote.

From there, they share a lot of observations and are engaged and producitve on thread. They vote for Sheltatha and then switch to me because they say I'm railroading.

What bothers me here is that Gait is very reluctant to look at lynch trains. They are on D1 and D2 trains so that could be why they're waving it away as a valid tactic.

To sum up:
Gait's playstyle is very clean. It's hard to poke holes in any individual case they made. They've been active on thread and shared some astute observations. But on a re-read, it shows they've been following a clear pattern every day: identify an easy target for town to lynch but don't push too hard. They're laying groundwork for trains without being too focused on anyone in partiular. This has been repeating every day and strikes me as odd.

[Venesara]

Rikkter, on 20 August 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

why gamelon and not prazec? prazec revealed for no reason aftr a lot of heat.Were it me, I'd rather test his revral first then gamellm's lame defemdse

Yeah this just doesn't follow right now. If the reveal was fake we can still lynch him. We dont' have the votes today, or the reasoning.

If he is not lying then without going into it his actions benefit us either way, as long as we don't lynch him first.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Good lord, I'm not dead?! You all are really active overnight. Reading up.

[Prazec Goul]

25 minutes left. I'll miss the last 10 minutes, so if no change I will swap to get the lynch.

This post has been edited by Prazec Goul: 20 August 2019 - 03:34 PM

[Prazec Goul]

edited time from 35 to 25