[Imperial Historian]

D, on 19 March 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Receive 6 TG's from Jol Nar

I did not agree to this and decline this opportunity.

Lol think tatts might be making a different move then.

So many negotiations!

[Blend]

Galactic Council, on 19 March 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

Gnaw/Blend - the extra Plasma Scoring shot has been added, it hit and a fighter was destroyed.

Thank you!

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 19 March 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

D, on 19 March 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Receive 6 TG's from Jol Nar

I did not agree to this and decline this opportunity.

Lol think tatts might be making a different move then.

So many negotiations!

That would be a strange precedent to set. Now anyone can make 1 move on the assumption that someone else will agree to a hypothetical deal, and when that person doesn't agree they get to change their entire turn? At best, sounds like it'll slow things to a crawl where every turn needs to be "confirmed" by all relevant players before the next turn can be posted...

[Tattersail_]

D, on 19 March 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Receive 6 TG's from Jol Nar

I did not agree to this and decline this opportunity.

You agreed to the deal, what has changed?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 18 March 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.

Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.

And the ships/infantry in corneeq?

Yes and the ships/infantry in corneeq

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.

Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.

And the ships/infantry in corneeq?

Yes and the ships/infantry in corneeq

Emphasis added

[Tattersail_]

It's up to you, if you decline the deal now then I am forced to change my action to take your home world, unless you want to amend the deal?

Maybe instead of your SFTT we can agree on something else?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 19 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.

Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.

And the ships/infantry in corneeq?

Yes and the ships/infantry in corneeq

Emphasis added

ah what's the difference on your turn or mine?

We can influence this game if we put aside our feud. I don't understand you.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

It's up to you, if you decline the deal now then I am forced to change my action

On what basis? You misread the chat thread and assumed a deal that was never agreed to, that's your fault not mine.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:59 PM, said:

D, on 19 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

D, on 18 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 18 March 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

@D'rek what will you pay me not to activate your home world this turn?

Edit - odds are great even if I move dread, carrier, fighter and 4 infantry to take your home planets and destroy the PDS. You'll retailliate with those remaining ships but you'll be weakened with less PDS and no guarantee you'll get the planets back and having to spend a CT on a new space dock to boot.

I'm proposing that instead of doing that I play construction giving you an opportunity to move ships away from Corneeq/Resculon. That way I don't destroy them and you can build in your home world as all those ships reach there. You pay me 6 trade goods to do this and your Support for the Throne for the loss of VP's and grief you have caused me. That way you get peace of mind that I won't be attacking you and it puts me back in the game to compete.

Seems pretty suicidal on your part since it makes it ever so easy for me to blockade your HW and any other planet you try to build a dock on and build with, but okay whatever, let's play some football. So you don't blob my homeworld on your turn, and then on my turn I build in JolNar and give you my sftt and the goods.

And the ships/infantry in corneeq?

Yes and the ships/infantry in corneeq

Emphasis added

ah what's the difference on your turn or mine?

We can influence this game if we put aside our feud. I don't understand you.

Aye, what's the difference. So let's stick with my original interpretation.

[Galactic Council]

A small rules announcement:

I seem to remember saying the opposite in the chat thread somewhere, so this is a clarification having investigated further (extensively, I might add. This was not easy to find an answer to): Relevant action cards CAN be used with or against abilities that state they happen at the beginning of a combat round, such as Creuss Dimensional Splicer, Mentak Ambush, or Yin Devotion. In the errata it actually says they cannot (with the specific example of DS and Shields Holding), but the designer has now said that this is wrong and needs to be corrected.

(There is another caveat to this with regards to DS specifically, but as Creuss aren’t in this game I won’t get into it!)

[Tattersail_]

D, on 19 March 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

It's up to you, if you decline the deal now then I am forced to change my action

On what basis? You misread the chat thread and assumed a deal that was never agreed to, that's your fault not mine.

This is why I was asking you, and you said to just take my turn. No one has taken their turn after me, and you cannot agree then disagree after I've posted my move.

So what's happening, you going to renége on our deal?

[Morgoth]

It wasn't my impression that she ever agreed. Nor that she was particularly receptive to your offers.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

This is why I was asking you, and you said to just take my turn.

I did say that. And then you did indeed take your turn.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

No one has taken their turn after me,

That is true, but is it relevant?

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

and you cannot agree then disagree after I've posted my move.

I haven't disagreed to anything that I previously agreed to.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

So what's happening, you going to renége on our deal?

Is it reneging if I never agreed to the terms you acted on in the first place? I don't think so.

Also there's no accent aigu on renege, because {a} no accents in English, and {b} that's not a word in french, either, it would be renonceras.

[Blend]

Gnaw - just wanna make sure you don't miss this:

Blend, on 19 March 2019 - 03:01 AM, said:

So Gnaw - you leave Quann, Dal Bootha and Xxehan alone, I leave Gwynan alone? I figure 3 resources and 3 influence worth of planets would be worth not losing all the ships and probably the space dock and infantry on Gwynan. What do you say?

I'd like an answer before I do my turn (which I know is still a Tapper away)

[Tattersail_]

D, on 19 March 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

This is why I was asking you, and you said to just take my turn.

I did say that. And then you did indeed take your turn.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

No one has taken their turn after me,

That is true, but is it relevant?

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

and you cannot agree then disagree after I've posted my move.

I haven't disagreed to anything that I previously agreed to.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

So what's happening, you going to renége on our deal?

Is it reneging if I never agreed to the terms you acted on in the first place? I don't think so.

Also there's no accent aigu on renege, because {a} no accents in English, and {b} that's not a word in french, either, it would be renonceras.

I have removed the TG's on my turn. You agreed to the deal and said you'll move the ships. So you were being vague on purpose? How kind.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 02:04 PM, said:

D, on 19 March 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

This is why I was asking you, and you said to just take my turn.

I did say that. And then you did indeed take your turn.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

No one has taken their turn after me,

That is true, but is it relevant?

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

and you cannot agree then disagree after I've posted my move.

I haven't disagreed to anything that I previously agreed to.

Tattersail_, on 19 March 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

So what's happening, you going to renége on our deal?

Is it reneging if I never agreed to the terms you acted on in the first place? I don't think so.

Also there's no accent aigu on renege, because {a} no accents in English, and {b} that's not a word in french, either, it would be renonceras.

I have removed the TG's on my turn. You agreed to the deal and said you'll move the ships. So you were being vague on purpose? How kind.

Octopusses always ride the vague wave

[Blend]

[D'rek]

Blend, on 19 March 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

How are you doing, Blend?

[Blend]

Heh, sick of waiting. LoL. In the last 24 hours, one person has actually posted their action. So frustrating! LoL

Although I am also still waiting for Gnaw to respond too, so I'd be delaying until I got that response either way.