[Morgoth]

Khell, so how about I give you my votes for 3 tg? With the caveat that I need to see what new agenda arrives first.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

Khell, so how about I give you my votes for 3 tg? With the caveat that I need to see what new agenda arrives first.

I only have 1 TG, and Twelve still has my Trade PN. However, maybe he'll be nice and give it back to me?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

I am going to Quash the travel ban agenda.

A wise choice

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Elect Twelve for the Crown of Emphidia

I could vote for you in return for a few trade goods. You're at no risk of losing it I assume? Or would it immediately be transferred to Tapper?

I don't know, but I assumed it would immediately go to Tapper.

Hmm, so according to one thread on boardgamegeek, I would not immediately cede the card to Tapper. I would only cede the card should a planet in my home system be taken (again) after gaining the card. This is interesting.

link?

I'm skeptical. It's not "if a player invades a HW planet", it's just "gain control" which Tapper has already done.

Even if it doesn't immediately go to Tapper, all he would need to do is do one tactical activation in that system, doesn't even need to lift up an infantry and put it back down. And ain't nobody getting to Jord.

[Imperial Historian]

How does that agenda work, does it follow the player or the homeworld?

IE does it stay as whoever takes a planet in khells system, or does it move to the home system of whoever takes a planet in khells system.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 12:39 PM, said:

How does that agenda work, does it follow the player or the homeworld?

IE does it stay as whoever takes a planet in khells system, or does it move to the home system of whoever takes a planet in khells system.

whoever holds the card

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

I am going to Quash the travel ban agenda.

So you are going to use the quash PN which you gave up your racial PN for in order to stop an agenda which has no downsides for you and only a potential upside (in that if the FOR agenda passes you will not be able to be looted by Nom through the wormhole)?

At least try and get someone to give you something to play it

That said gnaw when you get the quash PN back what do you want for it? Or tatts what do you want for the quash PN?

You haven't shown interest in it until now, I think. What's the likelihood of for passing?

To not Quash it I would want your racial PN to move that wormhole and your votes on the outcome I choose?

I'll give you gnaws trade PN for quash.

If you want to waste your quash on this agenda go for it. I'm not giving you anything not to quash it because I'm not getting in the blackmail game and I'm not entirely convinced a result for FOR would be good for me as then I can't sell my racial PN for moolah.

It is not blackmail, it is negotiation. You benefit most out of the travel ban agenda. All I am asking for is your racial PN to move the wormhole away from my system. If I get that I will not Quash travel agenda law.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 September 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

I am going to Quash the travel ban agenda.

So you are going to use the quash PN which you gave up your racial PN for in order to stop an agenda which has no downsides for you and only a potential upside (in that if the FOR agenda passes you will not be able to be looted by Nom through the wormhole)?

At least try and get someone to give you something to play it

That said gnaw when you get the quash PN back what do you want for it? Or tatts what do you want for the quash PN?

You haven't shown interest in it until now, I think. What's the likelihood of for passing?

To not Quash it I would want your racial PN to move that wormhole and your votes on the outcome I choose?

I'll give you gnaws trade PN for quash.

If you want to waste your quash on this agenda go for it. I'm not giving you anything not to quash it because I'm not getting in the blackmail game and I'm not entirely convinced a result for FOR would be good for me as then I can't sell my racial PN for moolah.

It is not blackmail, it is negotiation. You benefit most out of the travel ban agenda. All I am asking for is your racial PN to move the wormhole away from my system. If I get that I will not Quash travel agenda law.

If you want to waste quash go for it. I'll buy quash off you but I'm not going to give you something for not doing something.

[twelve]

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Elect Twelve for the Crown of Emphidia

I could vote for you in return for a few trade goods. You're at no risk of losing it I assume? Or would it immediately be transferred to Tapper?

Or I could just call in my owed votes. Though I'm thinking of actually making a deal with Tatts if I can first do a peace deal first.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Elect Twelve for the Crown of Emphidia

I could vote for you in return for a few trade goods. You're at no risk of losing it I assume? Or would it immediately be transferred to Tapper?

I don't know, but I assumed it would immediately go to Tapper.

What is this talk about immediately going to Tapoer? Why are you thinking this would happen?

[Morgoth]

twelve, on 11 September 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Elect Twelve for the Crown of Emphidia

I could vote for you in return for a few trade goods. You're at no risk of losing it I assume? Or would it immediately be transferred to Tapper?

I don't know, but I assumed it would immediately go to Tapper.

What is this talk about immediately going to Tapoer? Why are you thinking this would happen?

Tapper owns his home world.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 11:40 AM, said:

Btw twelve are you calling in any votes if mine?

I'm thinking about it. Im thinking of voting Tatts for the crown if I can work a deal out with him first re lasting peace but Gnaw also needs to be on board too.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

Hello everyone.

As we all know, the Crown of Emphidia is actually made of card and plastic jewellery, and looks like it has been carelessly dropped more than once. Now, there is only one race in the galaxy deserving of such a crown - the Saar. Elect the Saar to wear the Crown of Emphidia. We are miles behind in the galactic race, and we have very little chance of losing our home world (again), especially to the three leaders. You know it makes sense.

Okay you were talking about yourself not me. Makes way more sense now.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:29 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

Khell, so how about I give you my votes for 3 tg? With the caveat that I need to see what new agenda arrives first.

I only have 1 TG, and Twelve still has my Trade PN. However, maybe he'll be nice and give it back to me?

Nope.

[Imperial Historian]

Tatts why are you pausing, nothing can stop the xxcha ability?

Shame you played it though, was hoping d'rek would get her dreads stuck on mallice.

That said Gnaw you want to trade me quash?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 01:11 PM, said:

Tatts why are you pausing, nothing can stop the xxcha ability?

Shame you played it though, was hoping d'rek would get her dreads stuck on mallice.

I know. I wasn't bluffing.

I want to see new agenda as I may want to play a rider.

[Imperial Historian]

Ah fair enough, still think you are wasting quash. Wasn't worth me offering you anything not to do it as gnaw could just quash it and either result doesn't do much for me.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 September 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Ah fair enough, still think you are wasting quash. Wasn't worth me offering you anything not to do it as gnaw could just quash it and either result doesn't do much for me.

Gnaw said we both cannot use Quash in same phase.

That said, the agenda affected Nom, Tapper, Gnaw and D'rek with you standing the most to gain. I thought i'd remove that aspect from the agenda phase. Fingers crossed it doesn't bite me in the arse.

[Khellendros]

D, on 11 September 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 September 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 September 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Elect Twelve for the Crown of Emphidia

I could vote for you in return for a few trade goods. You're at no risk of losing it I assume? Or would it immediately be transferred to Tapper?

I don't know, but I assumed it would immediately go to Tapper.

Hmm, so according to one thread on boardgamegeek, I would not immediately cede the card to Tapper. I would only cede the card should a planet in my home system be taken (again) after gaining the card. This is interesting.

link?

I'm skeptical. It's not "if a player invades a HW planet", it's just "gain control" which Tapper has already done.

Even if it doesn't immediately go to Tapper, all he would need to do is do one tactical activation in that system, doesn't even need to lift up an infantry and put it back down. And ain't nobody getting to Jord.

I'm sceptical too, I'll find the link. Suffice to say, this is a pretty niche case.

But I think you're wrong on the rest. I think Tapper would have to lose control and regain control, not simply activate.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 11 September 2018 - 01:38 PM

[Khellendros]

https://boardgamegee...a-clarification