[Khellendros]

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

D, on 31 August 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 31 August 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

Yeah, except it hasn't gone like that.

It's been

Twelve plays Diplo rider.
Twelve plays Diplomacy.

And Gnaw hasn't removed anything yet.

So I think there's only 1 token there, because the second one would have replaced the first, as it does in Construction?

Ahh. Then yup, there is only 1 CT there. Bad play, Twelve. Unfortunate.

This rule is bullshit. Would have taken warfare instead if I'd known this. Though sounds like Khell would have taken it from me if I had.

Not without your permission, no.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 31 August 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

I thought you took Diplomacy because you wanted to refresh Winnu to build/get tech/get an influence token, not to try and double stop Gnaw.

The refresh of Winnu was of secondary concern and it allowed me to get a second pds. Which now allows me a little better odds than it would have otherwise.

[twelve]

Well on the bright side me having diplomacy kept Gnaw from using Logistics until after I used it so I can add a couple of destroyers and 3 more fighters. That might be enough to hold him off.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

D, on 31 August 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 31 August 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

Yeah, except it hasn't gone like that.

It's been

Twelve plays Diplo rider.
Twelve plays Diplomacy.

And Gnaw hasn't removed anything yet.

So I think there's only 1 token there, because the second one would have replaced the first, as it does in Construction?

Ahh. Then yup, there is only 1 CT there. Bad play, Twelve. Unfortunate.

This rule is bullshit. Would have taken warfare instead if I'd known this. Though sounds like Khell would have taken it from me if I had.

There was at least one situation where someone was going to have 2 CTs in a system last game, too, and the rule was discussed at that time.

[twelve]

Getting the second build in was a primary goal for me this round what with Gnaw having assault cannons now.

[twelve]

It's not a total loss

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

Well on the bright side me having diplomacy kept Gnaw from using Logistics until after I used it so I can add a couple of destroyers and 3 more fighters. That might be enough to hold him off.

Yeah if you can build again you have a very good chance of winning. Need something to keep that assault cannon from your big fish.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 31 August 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

Well on the bright side me having diplomacy kept Gnaw from using Logistics until after I used it so I can add a couple of destroyers and 3 more fighters. That might be enough to hold him off.

Yeah if you can build again you have a very good chance of winning. Need something to keep that assault cannon from your big fish.

Wish you or Nom could have refreshed your commodities. Having just one more resource could have gotten me a cruiser instead if 2 destroyers but hopefully I can use them next round for my flagship finally.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 31 August 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 04:27 PM, said:

Well on the bright side me having diplomacy kept Gnaw from using Logistics until after I used it so I can add a couple of destroyers and 3 more fighters. That might be enough to hold him off.

Yeah if you can build again you have a very good chance of winning. Need something to keep that assault cannon from your big fish.

Wish you or Nom could have refreshed your commodities. Having just one more resource could have gotten me a cruiser instead if 2 destroyers but hopefully I can use them next round for my flagship finally.

If I'd had another CT in strategy I would have refreshed it. I feel bad about not having come to your aid.

[Tattersail_]

Twelve how are you going to build?

Do you have any strategy or tactical tokens left?

If not you need D'rek to play leadership asap so you may need to pay her something and spend that influence from Winnu.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 31 August 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

Twelve how are you going to build?

Do you have any strategy or tactical tokens left?

If not you need D'rek to play leadership asap so you may need to pay her something and spend that influence from Winnu.

I have 1 strategic token left. Gnaw has to use logistics before he attacks so I get to exhaust Winnu for 3, so with Sarween tools I can add 2 destroyers and 3 fighters to the mix.

[twelve]

Looks like Tapper got an early start to the weekend. Also this weekend is a holiday weekend in the States so some of us might not be around. Though currently my only plans are to catch up on the sleep I missed this last week while my brother was in town.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 31 August 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 31 August 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

D, on 31 August 2018 - 04:40 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 31 August 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

How does that let you reach ensapta?

And more importantly why should I let you attack my friend gnaw and gain a point?

I'm quite happy to sell my PN to let you generate wormholes, or my action card to let you go from a to b, what you do with it is your business, but i'm not just going to move out of the way so you can attack my friend.

Awwwwwwwww

Alright fine, sell them to me.

What are you offering? I value both at 3TG. Give me your racial PN for mine and 3tg or equivalent and I'll play the action card when you want me too.

Yeahhh... no thanks. And dropping me for Gnaw midway through the negotiation, harsh. If that's how it's going to be, I guess that's how it's going to be. Don't expect me to help you stop Morgoth or Nom from winning when we hit the last round, you made this bed for yourself.

I think it was a fair offer for a VP and 4 TG from the action card you have, and an attack on someone who has always been friendly to me. And honestly you are by far the best positioned to get nearly all of the other 2vp objectives so I think it's more likely you'll win than anyone else.

[Galactic Council]

D, on 31 August 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

Just to be clear - a player will *never* have 2 CTs placed in a system. Any time, for any reason, that a second CT is placed into a system it is placed in reinforcements instead.

edit:

Quote

19.6 If a game effect would place a player's command token into
a system where he already has one, he returns the second
command token to his reinforcements.

Thank you Drek for clarifying this for everyone.

For the record, this is exactly the response I would have given, down to quoting the exact same rule. The whole 2 CTs can never happen thing has definitely come up once before in this game, and definitely a couple or few times in the last game.

[Galactic Council]

Tapper, on 31 August 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 31 August 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

Tapper this is going to D'rek?

Quote

Trade CU | Construction Rider | Play at the start of the Agenda Phase | Choose one agenda: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If your prediction is correct, place 1 space dock on a planet you control

Just confirming

Yep

Thanks for this confirmation - doing the trade now.

[Galactic Council]

Tatts:

Tattersail_, on 31 August 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

Activate Arretze -

Build 3 dreadnoughts, 4 fighters and 4 infantry (16-1) exhausting Abyz (3), Lazar (1) and spending 11 TG's.

You have 2 Space Docks in your home system that together give you a production of 7 (3 for Hercant and 4 for Arretze) so you can only build 7 things. You will have to get rid of some of the stuff you wanted to build above.

[Galactic Council]

Also, Khell, please add production to your turn. You won that battle by the a hair.

[twelve]

Galactic Council, on 31 August 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

Tatts:

Tattersail_, on 31 August 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

Activate Arretze -

Build 3 dreadnoughts, 4 fighters and 4 infantry (16-1) exhausting Abyz (3), Lazar (1) and spending 11 TG's.

You have 2 Space Docks in your home system that together give you a production of 7 (3 for Hercant and 4 for Arretze) so you can only build 7 things. You will have to get rid of some of the stuff you wanted to build above.

He has upgraded space docks that brings it up to 11

[Galactic Council]

twelve, on 31 August 2018 - 10:56 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 31 August 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

Tatts:

Tattersail_, on 31 August 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

Activate Arretze -

Build 3 dreadnoughts, 4 fighters and 4 infantry (16-1) exhausting Abyz (3), Lazar (1) and spending 11 TG's.

You have 2 Space Docks in your home system that together give you a production of 7 (3 for Hercant and 4 for Arretze) so you can only build 7 things. You will have to get rid of some of the stuff you wanted to build above.

He has upgraded space docks that brings it up to 11

Yeah, I just noticed that in his game posts - I guess I missed the Space Dock upgrade, trying to dig up when he did that for confirmation. Will have to upgrade his race sheet.

[Galactic Council]

Found it.

Alright, Tatts, disregard my post please! Am updating the map to include your production as is!