[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

IH looking at that move do you have plans for Mansa 3 next round for the PO? I'd prefer not to fight this early so maybe we can come to some sort of arrangement?

An arrangement for mansa 3 would be good. What do you want for it? I'd only need it for a round.

3tg's to move everything out completely, and if you get Leaderships to play that first turn. So you'd play leadership and pay me 3TG's and first turn i'll move my ships into Abyz/Fria.

edit, it doesn't have to be first turn, but I wouldn't be able to move them without you playing that and paying me the CT's to do it, as I have my own plans elsewhere.

I do not have 3TG. I could potentially trade you twelve's trade PN. Is this to occupy mansa permanently?

You said you'd only need it for the one round.

How about your trade PN with promise of refresh and you'll get 1 TG back when I use it?

I know you're better at making deals than me, you did well the last time we traded. The cost to move would be 3 Tg's next round at some point, is that better?

That's probably no good as I'll probably just be looted by the mentak. Hmmm let me think about it. I'll be effectively paying 9 goods as I'd have to spend a CT to move in, another to move out on top of paying you, not sure the exchange is worth it.

[Gnaw]

IH and Morgoth: care to share what strategy card you're picking?
Curious to know what the odds are that Leadership will still be around come my turn.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 25 July 2018 - 12:32 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth wanted technology, so I'm almost certainly taking leadership.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

IH looking at that move do you have plans for Mansa 3 next round for the PO? I'd prefer not to fight this early so maybe we can come to some sort of arrangement?

An arrangement for mansa 3 would be good. What do you want for it? I'd only need it for a round.

3tg's to move everything out completely, and if you get Leaderships to play that first turn. So you'd play leadership and pay me 3TG's and first turn i'll move my ships into Abyz/Fria.

edit, it doesn't have to be first turn, but I wouldn't be able to move them without you playing that and paying me the CT's to do it, as I have my own plans elsewhere.

I do not have 3TG. I could potentially trade you twelve's trade PN. Is this to occupy mansa permanently?

You said you'd only need it for the one round.

How about your trade PN with promise of refresh and you'll get 1 TG back when I use it?

I know you're better at making deals than me, you did well the last time we traded. The cost to move would be 3 Tg's next round at some point, is that better?

That's probably no good as I'll probably just be looted by the mentak. Hmmm let me think about it. I'll be effectively paying 9 goods as I'd have to spend a CT to move in, another to move out on top of paying you, not sure the exchange is worth it.

You'd have to have a certain amount of trade goods to be looted by them. It'd be more CT's than that otherwise, as I'd park a ship in the beta wormhole to start with, and move ships next to Mansa 3 to engage you. If you attack my ships, I wouldn't retreat either. I have decent actions cards to further hamper you. So asking for 3 TG's to give you a VP and lose a planet is totally reasonable.

That being said, you don't have to go for Mansa 3, it was just an option and an offer.

[D'rek]

Why does IH want Mansa III again?

[Tattersail_]

D, on 25 July 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Why does IH want Mansa III again?

The public objective, own 4 planets of the same trait. That's why Nevant or M. Xull were options for the wormhole. He owns 3 hazardous planets, although he could come to an arrangement with Gnaw for Daemon.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

D, on 25 July 2018 - 01:21 PM, said:

Why does IH want Mansa III again?

The public objective, own 4 planets of the same trait. That's why Nevant or M. Xull were options for the wormhole. He owns 3 hazardous planets, although he could come to an arrangement with Gnaw for Daemon.

Seems like a good reason NOT to let him just blithely take it, then? Or really, really charge him out the ass for it. Letting another player do a thing that gains them a VP should be expensive, and all the moreso if they are currently in the lead.

[twelve]

IH I encourage you to go for meer

[D'rek]

@Tapper, here's what I'm thinking.

1. You use your Orbital Drop (puts you at 0 strategy CT)
2. We trade your 2 commodities and racial PN for my 2 trade goods. I get pillaged for 1.
3. I use your racial PN to gain 2 infantry. Costs you nothing since you have no strategy CTs left.

Benefit for you is getting your commodities turned to TG. Benefit for me is I pay 1 TG for 2 infantry, but without the hassle of moving them from a space dock. Whaddaya think?

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 25 July 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

@Tapper, here's what I'm thinking.

1. You use your Orbital Drop (puts you at 0 strategy CT)
2. We trade your 2 commodities and racial PN for my 2 trade goods. I get pillaged for 1.
3. I use your racial PN to gain 2 infantry. Costs you nothing since you have no strategy CTs left.

Benefit for you is getting your commodities turned to TG. Benefit for me is I pay 1 TG for 2 infantry, but without the hassle of moving them from a space dock. Whaddaya think?

Gnaw already turned tappers commodities into TG his post isn't updated properly.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

D, on 25 July 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

@Tapper, here's what I'm thinking.

1. You use your Orbital Drop (puts you at 0 strategy CT)
2. We trade your 2 commodities and racial PN for my 2 trade goods. I get pillaged for 1.
3. I use your racial PN to gain 2 infantry. Costs you nothing since you have no strategy CTs left.

Benefit for you is getting your commodities turned to TG. Benefit for me is I pay 1 TG for 2 infantry, but without the hassle of moving them from a space dock. Whaddaya think?

Gnaw already turned tappers commodities into TG his post isn't updated properly.

Awwww

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 25 July 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

D, on 25 July 2018 - 03:54 AM, said:

D, on 24 July 2018 - 10:20 PM, said:

I believe that if I have no CTs in strategy you still get one, but will need to double-check. That sounds like a good deal to me, but as you say have to wait until we're neighbours / an agenda phase.

re^^

The most common consensus on boardgamegeek and other forums, and I agree with it, is:

The L1z1x, Xxcha, and Muaat racial Promissory Notes can only be used if those races still have a strategy token available to be spent. (Which aligns with rule 1.5: "When a player
resolves an ability, he must resolve the ability in its entirety.")

The Sol is different - their racial PN explicitly says "Remove 1 token from the Sol player's strategy pool, if able".

The Barony of Letnev's racial PN, which forces the Barony to lost 2 trade goods (or 1 if they only have 1), also can still be resolved even if the Barony has no TG due to the way it is written - on it the effects are broken into different paragraphs making them independent effects to resolve. (As per Rule 1.7)

Makes sense. Would you still be interested in a trade?

Yeah, still interested, paying 1 CT is not that bad. If we connect/have an agenda phase next round we can do it then.

[Tattersail_]

What country is Morgoth in now?

[Galactic Council]

Is it his turn? I have a provisional for him, give me a minute.

[Tattersail_]

Galactic Council, on 25 July 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

Is it his turn? I have a provisional for him, give me a minute.

Yep, then I pass.

Twelve has no CT's, Gnaw has no Tct's, so I think it's back to D'rek.

Then Khell and Nom have 1 TCT left, IH has 0, Tapper has 0, Morgoth will have ? amount, then no one will have any left. This right?

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 25 July 2018 - 03:35 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Yep I will be passing when it comes back round.

[Galactic Council]

Sorry, was starting to post then work got in the way, then we had a fire alarm. Am here now, will post Morgoth's move in a sec.

[Galactic Council]

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 25 July 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

Is it his turn? I have a provisional for him, give me a minute.

Yep, then I pass.

Twelve has no CT's, Gnaw has no Tct's, so I think it's back to D'rek.

Then Khell and Nom have 1 TCT left, IH has 0, Tapper has 0, Morgoth will have ? amount, then no one will have any left. This right?

Twelve still needs to play Imperial, though.

[Galactic Council]

Galactic Council, on 25 July 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 July 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 25 July 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

Is it his turn? I have a provisional for him, give me a minute.

Yep, then I pass.

Twelve has no CT's, Gnaw has no Tct's, so I think it's back to D'rek.

Then Khell and Nom have 1 TCT left, IH has 0, Tapper has 0, Morgoth will have ? amount, then no one will have any left. This right?

Twelve still needs to play Imperial, though.

Err, ItWasBliss rather.

[twelve]

How did IH get Pillaged? he didn't have 3 trade goods. He traded his extra to me for my PN.