[D'rek]

By the way, I'm not planning to keep Lodd Eru. I took it because I wanted the red tech specialty during last agenda phase, but then the researching agenda got veto'd so it ended up a total waste. The cruiser+inf will be gone in a couple turns and you can retake it without any investment or bitterness.

[Khellendros]

D, on 02 November 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I figured as much, hence my pseudo-wasting a Skilled Retreat on plugging the alpha-wormhole with a destroyer.

I was wondering what that was about.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I'm open to giving someone the ability to move a wormhole and make a play at Jord, but realistically that needs to be done before Tapper's next turn whem he can reinforce so can't be me. Morgoth has my ceasefire so I can't move against him.

Anyone have any suggestions/offers?

I'll do it.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 02 November 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I'm open to giving someone the ability to move a wormhole and make a play at Jord, but realistically that needs to be done before Tapper's next turn whem he can reinforce so can't be me. Morgoth has my ceasefire so I can't move against him.

Anyone have any suggestions/offers?

Gnaw for the upteenth time. Remove the ship from the alpha this go and I'll move on Daemon. He has to choose where to play Diplomacy. It's the part of the game where being friends won't get you the win.

He's probably hoping to wait for Khell to play Leadership and then immediately Diplo his homeworld, but if Khell holds off on that for another turn he's stuck either wasting the refresh ability or using it elsewhere.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 02 November 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I'm open to giving someone the ability to move a wormhole and make a play at Jord, but realistically that needs to be done before Tapper's next turn whem he can reinforce so can't be me. Morgoth has my ceasefire so I can't move against him.

Anyone have any suggestions/offers?

I'll do it.

Heck, if it means moving the alpha wormhole away from me I'll do it even sooner

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 02 November 2018 - 06:43 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I figured as much, hence my pseudo-wasting a Skilled Retreat on plugging the alpha-wormhole with a destroyer.

Huh missed that. Back to the drawing board...

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know it's me, contemplating my moves, d'reks homeworld seems to be my best chance of getting anywhere near the necessary number of points, but is at best a 50:50 shot and has all sorts of potential downsides. Reassessing possible options after Tapper's play.

I'm open to giving someone the ability to move a wormhole and make a play at Jord, but realistically that needs to be done before Tapper's next turn whem he can reinforce so can't be me. Morgoth has my ceasefire so I can't move against him.

Anyone have any suggestions/offers?

A wormhole in Thibah system. Attack Winnu. I’ll retreat back to Thibah.

[Imperial Historian]

Out for the night, can't decide what to do and don't want to hold the game up anymore. Will respond to offers later.

[D'rek]

@Tatts - can we do Production Biomes next turn? I'm not too worried about the timing on retaking New Albion, but doing PB sooner rather than later would be a welcome relief.

[Galactic Council]

Game map has been updated to the end of Tatts' turn!

[Khellendros]

I can't wait for this game to be over so that we can start another and I can try to begin to wipe my largely disgraceful performance from my mind. Maybe the Barony next time. Nothing like a little violent destruction to soothe the pain.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 02 November 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

@Tatts - can we do Production Biomes next turn? I'm not too worried about the timing on retaking New Albion, but doing PB sooner rather than later would be a welcome relief.

I don't have any strategy counters right now, maybe after leadership has been popped.

[twelve]

Well this is unfortunate. Was definitely hoping for a different order of )cards getting used.

[Khellendros]

As Nom did not activate trade, I require someone or someones to lend me 5 trade goods. You will be paid back as soon as the refreshes happen. This will also be to the benefit of all who are not named Tapper.

[Itwæs Nom]

@Khell: im willing to pass on the battleststation but not sure about the price

I'm also willing to give you a free refresh so you can pay for it:D

Probably not to IH though

@D'rek: I'll keep that in mind

@twelve: I'll give you a free refresh but I'm not giving one to Morghy

Yes I'm aware youv'e got their trade pns

This post has been edited by Itwæs Nom: 03 November 2018 - 12:01 AM

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

@Khell: im willing to pass on the battleststation but not sure about the price

I'm also willing to give you a free refresh so you can pay for it:D

Probably not to IH though

@D'rek: I'll keep that in mind

@twelve: I'll give you a free refresh but I'm not giving one to Morghy

I have IH's trade PN so refreshing him will only be giving the TGs to me, and you want me to pay you, no?

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 03 November 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

@Khell: im willing to pass on the battleststation but not sure about the price

I'm also willing to give you a free refresh so you can pay for it:D

Probably not to IH though

@D'rek: I'll keep that in mind

@twelve: I'll give you a free refresh but I'm not giving one to Morghy

I have IH's trade PN so refreshing him will only be giving the TGs to me, and you want me to pay you, no?

Yeah I know just edited the post actually

But this way he will not be able to get refresh next round either soooo

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 03 November 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 November 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

@Khell: im willing to pass on the battleststation but not sure about the price

I'm also willing to give you a free refresh so you can pay for it:D

Probably not to IH though

@D'rek: I'll keep that in mind

@twelve: I'll give you a free refresh but I'm not giving one to Morghy

I have IH's trade PN so refreshing him will only be giving the TGs to me, and you want me to pay you, no?

Yeah I know just edited the post actually

But this way he will not be able to get refresh next round either soooo

Ahhh, but IH and I also said that our peace would last at least up until I cashed in his Trade PN, so if you refresh it there's a possibility I go try to kill the Ghosts, whereas there's no chance of that currently

[twelve]

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

@Khell: im willing to pass on the battleststation but not sure about the price

I'm also willing to give you a free refresh so you can pay for it:D

Probably not to IH though

@D'rek: I'll keep that in mind

@twelve: I'll give you a free refresh but I'm not giving one to Morghy

Yes I'm aware youv'e got their trade pns

So you give me a free refresh so Mogoth gets 3 trade goods as the point leader because he holds my trade agreement pn, but you won't give Mogoth a free refresh when all he'll get out of it is his trade pn back. I know you can pillage one for when he gains 3 but you are still giving the points leader 2 more trade goods to be used as production. Hell I'll give you one of the trade goods I would get if you refresh his as well when I can.

[Imperial Historian]

So khell you want the ability to move one of my wormhole's to near Jord? Can you even get there or are you expecting someone else to go through?

Twelve why should I attack the most annoying faction in the game to attack when Gnaw has been my friend?

Gnaw if you give me a route to winnu I wouldn't even be able to hold it with twelve's ridiculous fleet parked next to it.

Nom at this point in the game you should surely be looking at who has more points than you and not helping them. Anyone doing poorly probably needs a helping hand so they don't get swallowed by one of the point leaders

Morgoth and tapper should clearly not be getting any help.

Can we all agree to a trade embargo against them? Do they hold anyone's trade PNs, can you not give them a refresh also? I'm happy to donate at least 1 commodity to anyone massively hurt by this if I get a refresh.