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#3441 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 01:58 PM

View PostTapper, on 06 September 2018 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 06 September 2018 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

Not sure who is or who isn't getting pillaged so speak up..

Khell, I'd give you 1 TG for 2 votes on that agenda?
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What are your thoughts on the wormhole agenda? I'd give you an action card for 4 of your votes on that agenda.

Edit - just in case the agenda does not appear then your 2 or 4 votes on an agenda of my choice..

I am currently not being pillaged.

As for your offer: it is tempting to accept, because I don't feel strongly one way or another. On the other hand, I currently hold 6 action cards, draw 2 more, and 1 from you would lead to 2 discards end of turn, so the card you offer me should either be playable straight away or be better than 2 cards I currently hold. I also do not look forward to having to commit votes to a different agenda if this one is Quashed or Vetoed - might be that the vote you call me in on, is one I want to win :D.

In other words, it all depends on the card.


The card I can offer is Skilled Retreat. I see your predicament there. How about you wait until I draw two myself and give you a selection to choose from next round?

I think it is prudent to wait until we've both drawn during the status phase.


That's fair enough.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:00 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 06 September 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 06 September 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 06 September 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

well, we're right on the cusp anyway so I might as well tell you.

One blocks all travel through a and b wormholes, the other destroys all pds in, or bordering a system with a wormhole.



Now I wish I hadn't moved that wormhole. D'rek losing 3 PDS would be amusing.


Interesting, especially as I have the option of moving one of my wormholes in the status phase.


So IH would you be For or Against this agenda?

What about you Gnaw?
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:01 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 06 September 2018 - 01:42 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 06 September 2018 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

Not sure who is or who isn't getting pillaged so speak up..

Khell, I'd give you 1 TG for 2 votes on that agenda?
@Tapper

What are your thoughts on the wormhole agenda? I'd give you an action card for 4 of your votes on that agenda.

Edit - just in case the agenda does not appear then your 2 or 4 votes on an agenda of my choice..

I am currently not being pillaged.

As for your offer: it is tempting to accept, because I don't feel strongly one way or another. On the other hand, I currently hold 6 action cards, draw 2 more, and 1 from you would lead to 2 discards end of turn, so the card you offer me should either be playable straight away or be better than 2 cards I currently hold. I also do not look forward to having to commit votes to a different agenda if this one is Quashed or Vetoed - might be that the vote you call me in on, is one I want to win :D.

In other words, it all depends on the card.


The card I can offer is Skilled Retreat. I see your predicament there. How about you wait until I draw two myself and give you a selection to choose from next round?

I think it is prudent to wait until we've both drawn during the status phase.


That's fair enough.


And also to wait to see where IH moves a WH. Even if Tapper is ambivalent about closing the wormholes or not, I doubt he wants to commit votes towards a result that would destroy 2 of his PDSs.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:01 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 06 September 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 06 September 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 06 September 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

well, we're right on the cusp anyway so I might as well tell you.

One blocks all travel through a and b wormholes, the other destroys all pds in, or bordering a system with a wormhole.



Now I wish I hadn't moved that wormhole. D'rek losing 3 PDS would be amusing.


Interesting, especially as I have the option of moving one of my wormholes in the status phase.


So IH would you be For or Against this agenda?


It's win-win for him.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:03 PM

IH doesn't really decide whether it gets passed or not though. What would you prefer D'rek?
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:06 PM

I have no real preference on that agenda. Will probably call in my owed vote from d'rek this round though.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:15 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 06 September 2018 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 08:06 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 06 September 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

Tatts, there's a law we're to vote for come the political phase that you'll get a real kick out of I think. But it means nothing to me now that D'rek removed my poor little fleet. So, in return for two tgs now, I will not vote against you.

alternatively

Gnaw, there's a law we're to vote for come the political phase where one of the results will be disastrous for you but quite amusing for me now that my fleet is gone. In return for 2 tgs now I will not vote against you.


Anything that affects me badly can be quashed by me, and Gnaw has a similar ability.


It doesn't effect you badly. You are the only player whom will suffer no negative effect for either for or against. Gnaw will suffer greatly from one effect, but benefit from the other.

Remember, you still owe me votes so I get to call them in first.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:18 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

IH doesn't really decide whether it gets passed or not though. What would you prefer D'rek?


I can always rebuild my dreads. I'd prefer to not lose my PDSs. More so than that, I'd prefer it be quashed so IH doesn't get even more advantage given to him (for all his bluster of how he's not in the running to win (Just like last time, hmmmm) he is an excellent position to fulfill many of the possible public and secret objectives... and you're still giving him Mansa for a freebie one this round after all. He really doesn't need even more help).

View PostImperial Historian, on 06 September 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

I have no real preference on that agenda. Will probably call in my owed vote from d'rek this round though.


Huh?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:18 PM

What was who offering for my beloved experimental battlestation again please?
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:23 PM

View PostGnaw, on 06 September 2018 - 08:59 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 08:57 AM, said:


From your point of view though Morgoth, you need the movement otherwise you'd have to go through Nom, IH or Khell to get anywhere


Forcing the leaders to feed on each other....

Of course that would mostly benefit D’rek.

Seriously? You are pretending you care about who scores and might win the game? My turn to face palm you.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:32 PM

I'm thinking it's likely that D'rek plays that Construction Rider this agenda phase if it looks like PDS might be kablooied.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:37 PM

@Nom

View PostGnaw, on 05 September 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 September 2018 - 07:44 PM, said:

Gnaw why don't you bargain with Nom for that AC


Hmmmm.

Nom, what would like for that?

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 06 September 2018 - 02:32 PM, said:

I'm thinking it's likely that D'rek plays that Construction Rider this agenda phase if it looks like PDS might be kablooied.

It places a Space Dock by default.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:42 PM

View PostTapper, on 06 September 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 September 2018 - 02:32 PM, said:

I'm thinking it's likely that D'rek plays that Construction Rider this agenda phase if it looks like PDS might be kablooied.

It places a Space Dock by default.


It only places a space dock. No option for a PDS. Mostly useless to me now that Morgoth blew away my Ministry, alas.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:46 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 06 September 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

I have no real preference on that agenda. Will probably call in my owed vote from d'rek this round though.

Again I get first option. But I don't care either way on this one so go ahead.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:51 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 September 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

What was who offering for my beloved experimental battlestation again please?

I offered you Khell's trade agreement pn but Tatts is likely going to break a second deal this game and won't broker the deal between us. I would greatly appreciate it if you didn't trade it to either Tatts or Gnaw. I'm already at a huge disadvantage as it is and this will likely tip me over the edge.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:52 PM

Twelve, are you going to call in your votes on a particular agenda? I thought Tapper covered Morgoth in that deal. Either way it is only 2 votes is that right? Similar elsewhere.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:54 PM

View Posttwelve, on 06 September 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 September 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

What was who offering for my beloved experimental battlestation again please?

I offered you Khell's trade agreement pn but Tatts is likely going to break a second deal this game and won't broker the deal between us. I would greatly appreciate it if you didn't trade it to either Tatts or Gnaw. I'm already at a huge disadvantage as it is and this will likely tip me over the edge.


I have not made a deal with you at any stage regardless of your whimpering. I understand your predicament but every other person who has actually had a deal with me has had that deal made and honoured. Maybe you won't deal with me in future games but I don't recall one time I have back stabbed you, or reneged on a deal struck.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 02:56 PM

Gnaw's turn.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 03:06 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 September 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

Twelve, are you going to call in your votes on a particular agenda? I thought Tapper covered Morgoth in that deal. Either way it is only 2 votes is that right? Similar elsewhere.

Tapper covered some of Morgoths owed votes. Morgoths still oWes me 4. The wormhole agenda doesn't help or hurt me significantly enough in either direction to bother calling them in. But I might call them in so you are screwed from making any plans as you and Gnaw keep screwing me for Negative benefit to you both. But I probably need to see what both agendas are before making that decision.
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