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#1361 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 08:52 AM

View PostD, on 27 July 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

Such strawman, how come you never win at mafia, Khell?

View PostKhellendros, on 27 July 2018 - 07:19 PM, said:

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Could have used what on Silvano? Used LOGISTICS on it.

Could have taken Imperial rather than Logistics, my two choices? No thanks :crybaby: I don't see why not. Since you so arduously *claim* you had no intention of moving your fleet again, you didn't actually have any use for LOGISTICS. IMPERIAL was, therefore, the better choice... if you truly had no intention of fighting.

I've provided ample zero actual evidence that I had no intention of attacking you, to the point of making my actual plans frankly transparent Oh, they're apparent all right. And why did I have no intention? Because that would serve exactly zero of any current objectives I would want to complete. You territories are of complete disinterest to me.

You can play all high and mighty and wounded indignant all you like, but you tried to attack me, and now you're sore about the consequences. Well boo hoo. Oh, hardly. I knew the "consequences". Except that we both know they were coming either way, so I have no regrets about trying (and failing) to mitigate them. It's not indignation at being attacked, it's scorn at your mewly pretensions. I don't see why you can't just own up to your intentions instead of this charade of "I was driving my truck at full speed towards you, how dare you try to slow me down, you gave me no choice but to hit you!".




How can I use Logistics on Silvano when I can't even activate it until Nom moves off it, which he did after turn 2, the point at which our deal required me to use Logistics? At least try not to ignore entire parts of things I have already said.

Logistics was still useful for me because it provided me with an extra CT for future use. I started this round with only 1 token in tactical and strategy.

At least now we know how you would have handled a buildup of armaments during the Cold War. Pre-emptive kablooie. Negotiating with Nom to move through Lodor. Placing a wormhole in the asteroid field on the opposite side of the map to you. The current objectives all being away from you. If that all points to me coming for you then you might want to consider that actually you're the one with the hawkish policy. Not that you will. Oh and I probably lied in a PM to Blend for...reasons? too.

Whatever then.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 09:31 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 28 July 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

I think there's pros and cons to each decision we make and uncertainty because Twelve constantly surprises me with his moves. If we decide something on thread he'll plan accordingly. Logistics works just as well for building. A lot of the strategy cards has advantages that he'll benefit from.

That being said, instead of looking for what Twelve can and cannot do I'll look at what I can or cannot do at present. The main thing being moves, I'll gain 2 CTs from status then a further 2 if Leadership popped early. However, by stalling that by 1 turn I can pop trade and gain a further 3 cts which gives me flexibility, increasing fleet size and options. I'll then be able to build a fleet that can compete with Twelve or even Khell if he has designs coming my way. It's my best option right now.

What is best for you? I don't think Diplomacy would be unless you're using your racial traits.



You’ve got your heart set on trade don’t you? That pretty much forces me to take Politics. We can’t have him getting that.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:22 PM

I was really lucky having an SO the same as a PO that I could achieve.
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:07 AM

Gnaw, If you pick politics and tatts gives me a free refresh I’ll pay you two commodities to make me speaker. I’ll also let you reserve the strategy card you want.
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:08 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 28 July 2018 - 07:22 PM, said:

I was really lucky having an SO the same as a PO that I could achieve.


Hah, yeah, me too!
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:14 AM

I’m returning home on thursday, so I promise a more active participation once I’ve slept for a day or two!
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 07:55 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 29 July 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

I'm returning home on thursday, so I promise a more active participation once I've slept for a day or two!



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Posted 29 July 2018 - 02:26 PM

What's taking so long to do your status updates?
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 July 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

What's taking so long to do your status updates?


Ain't even really had a chance to get on a pc personally, will do it tonight
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 05:30 PM

Left a provisional with blend but guses he was waiting for everyone else to post before doing mine. Will do mine a bit. Desperately need to get a shower after camping for the last 3 days
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 10:50 PM

Sorry, been mostly away from the computer all weekend. Gonna go update Morgoth's post to include all the information then get the next Strategy phase started.
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 11:12 PM

Gnaw still hasn't posted his status phase yet.
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 11:26 PM

Yep, noticed that as I was taking care of everyone's status phase updates.

Will hold off for Gnaw's post then.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:21 AM

Here i am playing around in Indonesia and still post more efficiently than you guys!
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 06:30 AM

@Blend - in the latest map, missed removing a token from Mallice.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:07 AM

Tatts, if I don’t take Diplomacy, Twelve will use Logistics to take Everra from me. I still think you should take Politics. *shrug*
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:55 AM

View PostGnaw, on 30 July 2018 - 10:07 AM, said:

Tatts, if I don’t take Diplomacy, Twelve will use Logistics to take Everra from me. I still think you should take Politics. *shrug*

Tatts, take whatever you like. You haven't crossed me (technically) yet so I have no quarrel with you. Do what helps your game. Attacking me won't do that. Once I'm gone Gnaws troops will be on your border and he doesn't have your support for the throne to prevent him from attacking you. Where as you would have his to dissuade you from attacking him.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:58 AM

And how fucked up is my situation that both the player to my left and my right get to pick strategy cards immediately before me.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:59 AM

View PostGnaw, on 30 July 2018 - 10:07 AM, said:

Tatts, if I don't take Diplomacy, Twelve will use Logistics to take Everra from me. I still think you should take Politics. *shrug*


No chance. How could he do that? If he moved the dreads in he'd leave his homeworld vulnerable. You could also cancel his action to move into Everra in the first place. If he wanted to move then he'd HAVE to take Thibah off me.

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Leadership is not getting popped on turn 1, so he is left with the strategy card he picks and 1 action.


On your first turn you'd move more ships into Everra or if you are concerned about your flagship move into Daemon or use diplomacy and bunker up.


If Twelve gets politics then he'd get 2 action cards and speaker, place himself speaker and get what strategy card next? Can you even guess?


It's best planning for what you can do rather than what he might because there's way too many variables to guess.


If he moves into Thibah which is his only move option, in my opinion, then he'll take hits from your flagship before the battle and I won't retreat. Fight to the death. However, I can build in Sakalug to engage whatever Fleet he sends there next round.


I don't think he's moving though, if he moves he is more vulnerable than if he bunkers up, adds another ship to his HW with that 4 fleet supply of his, and he has the PDS to help him.


It's the round after that he'd have to move with that extra ship unless he goes fleet supply 5.


That'd mean you putting more ships into Everra and me moving towards Thibah would be ideal. I hate having to put this all on thread because he's obviously going to read and maybe plan accordingly.


He could destroy your flagship maybe this round, but then you'd move in and destroy whatever was left, and i'd move in to his HW and block any more builds.





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Posted 30 July 2018 - 11:03 AM

Gnaw if Twelve gets speaker token and nominates himself speaker then i'll research my racial tech this round.

so if he nominates himself speaker that'd mean I get last choice of strategy cards, which means he'll be swapping whatever he chooses with me.

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