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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:18 AM

Blend, addendum to standing orders for Loncara Ssodu space cannon. Do not fire at Hacan ships entering Thibah system.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:25 AM

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 09:03 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

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View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

If we go all the way back to the start D'rek had plans for Tura Nora first.


Cease concerning yourself with the far side of the stars Hacan.
We have urgent matters to discuss.


Of course, shoot


Our sectors are resource poor and overpopulated. For there to be peace in the galaxy first there must be a reduction in those who hunger for those spare resources.

The Winnu teeter on the brink. Should you also give them a push we can share the spoils and work together to bring wise leadership to our galaxy.

I.e. anyway you can park a ship in their home system thereby blockading them?


I literally could only get 1 cruiser there this round and he has a PDS with GLS. I could advance to Thibah with 2 cruisers and a carrier which is what I was planning to do anyway.

Like IH says can you not fire upon any ships built in that system with your PDS from your flagship? It would prevent him from building.

I didn't think you'd move so early to be honest. I was going to prepare to invade next round, because i'd need more infantry for ground battle.

The carrier cruiser and 3 fighters could take out Arinam/Meer, you'd get shots in from your flagship in that battle and you wouldn't have to use GLS. Meaning you can save GLS for when/if he builds.

I can either, move carrier to Thibah with 2 cruisers this round, or build a carrier, loads of infantry this round and use Warfare next round to invade his home system. That'd be 2 carriers 2 cruisers and loads of infantry moving in.


I had no choice but to go this round. Twelve has a tendency to build lots of dreads. Needed to cut that off early.

I’m short a CT. I can either destroy his fleet in arinam/meer OR shoot at anything he builds in Winnu system. IMO the existing fleet takes precedence. If you take Thibah immediately I can provide cover fire should he move against you later in the round.



Lol, this 'tendency' based on one game in which he had to build lots of dreads for a secret objective ;)

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:32 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 23 July 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

Lol, this 'tendency' based on one game in which he had to build lots of dreads for a secret objective ;)


You forget Eclipse.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:46 AM

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 09:03 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

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View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

If we go all the way back to the start D'rek had plans for Tura Nora first.


Cease concerning yourself with the far side of the stars Hacan.
We have urgent matters to discuss.


Of course, shoot


Our sectors are resource poor and overpopulated. For there to be peace in the galaxy first there must be a reduction in those who hunger for those spare resources.

The Winnu teeter on the brink. Should you also give them a push we can share the spoils and work together to bring wise leadership to our galaxy.

I.e. anyway you can park a ship in their home system thereby blockading them?


I literally could only get 1 cruiser there this round and he has a PDS with GLS. I could advance to Thibah with 2 cruisers and a carrier which is what I was planning to do anyway.

Like IH says can you not fire upon any ships built in that system with your PDS from your flagship? It would prevent him from building.

I didn't think you'd move so early to be honest. I was going to prepare to invade next round, because i'd need more infantry for ground battle.

The carrier cruiser and 3 fighters could take out Arinam/Meer, you'd get shots in from your flagship in that battle and you wouldn't have to use GLS. Meaning you can save GLS for when/if he builds.

I can either, move carrier to Thibah with 2 cruisers this round, or build a carrier, loads of infantry this round and use Warfare next round to invade his home system. That'd be 2 carriers 2 cruisers and loads of infantry moving in.


I had no choice but to go this round. Twelve has a tendency to build lots of dreads. Needed to cut that off early.

I'm short a CT. I can either destroy his fleet in arinam/meer OR shoot at anything he builds in Winnu system. IMO the existing fleet takes precedence. If you take Thibah immediately I can provide cover fire should he move against you later in the round.


Ah, so if he uses logistics secondary and then moves out of his home system?


Instead of invading Thibah this round I can park some cruisers there.


He has 3TG's and no planets to exhaust. He can literally only build 2 cruisers or 1 dread can't he?
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:55 AM

Using logistics yes. When Diplomacy is played he can refresh two planets - Winnu and Meer. Using his racial tech that gives him 7 resources to build more. Of course then he’s stuck there for the remainder of the round.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

Twelve. Apologies dude. Nothing personal. It was either you or IH and I learned my lesson on fucking with the Ghosts.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:04 AM

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

Using logistics yes. When Diplomacy is played he can refresh two planets - Winnu and Meer. Using his racial tech that gives him 7 resources to build more. Of course then he's stuck there for the remainder of the round.


He cannot use diplomacy before Logistics, and that's already been played. So say he uses it and builds 2 cruisers or a dread, then activates his home system after diplomacy that's when you can fire on his ships.

As he goes before you, he may even try and move the ships from Meer into Mec Rex or wherever he was planning.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:05 AM

@IH now Nom has moved into Xull, where would you prefer the wormhole?
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:08 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 10:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

Using logistics yes. When Diplomacy is played he can refresh two planets - Winnu and Meer. Using his racial tech that gives him 7 resources to build more. Of course then he's stuck there for the remainder of the round.


He cannot use diplomacy before Logistics, and that's already been played. So say he uses it and builds 2 cruisers or a dread, then activates his home system after diplomacy that's when you can fire on his ships.

As he goes before you, he may even try and move the ships from Meer into Mec Rex or wherever he was planning.


He can’t move from Meer. It’s got a CT on it.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:16 AM

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 10:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

Using logistics yes. When Diplomacy is played he can refresh two planets - Winnu and Meer. Using his racial tech that gives him 7 resources to build more. Of course then he's stuck there for the remainder of the round.


He cannot use diplomacy before Logistics, and that's already been played. So say he uses it and builds 2 cruisers or a dread, then activates his home system after diplomacy that's when you can fire on his ships.

As he goes before you, he may even try and move the ships from Meer into Mec Rex or wherever he was planning.


He can't move from Meer. It's got a CT on it.


He has 1 sct and 1 tct left, so most obvious move for him is to build ships with logistics and then activate home system to build more after diplomacy is played.

I am going to stall a turn to see what he does. If he moves ships out of Winnu into Thibah then I will engage, if he builds in Winnu via an activation then you can have a pop with the flagship.

This sound?
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:20 AM

Pretty much what we have to do I guess.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:23 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 July 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

Twelve just to check given current circumstances do you still want me to move the destroyer?

Sorry yesterday was a very trying day personally and in game as well. Think I suffered from a mild case of heat exhaustion. Yeah still move it. I have no idea why Gnaw choose Everra instead of Lodd Eru to attack. you guys basically decided that that was his and Lodor would be yours. I basically only had 1 other planet besides my home world literally up to the turn right before it. I have the weakest starting position was no threat to attack either Blend or Gnaw. Now I have no choice but to waste CT on attacking Gnaw and because of his tech probably lose yet another system and be unable to take the system back. I still don't know how Gnaw still has so many secondary cts. To use for the tech. Guess I need to know what's going on in his head.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:29 AM

View PostGnaw, on 22 July 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 22 July 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

Nicely played Gnaw. I would not want to be in twelve's position right now.


You can see now why I'm wanting to keep you and Tatts happy.

Nom, sorry to cause you heartburn. I really had no intention of going to Lodor. Needed a maskirovka.

@GC. That edit was a back error not a true edit. Sorry.

You fucked us both with this move. I have no choice but to try and take it back. Why didn't you go for Lodd Eru? You and IH had already decided it was yours. I have no production now and have to waste CT to attack which wastes your CT to ceasefire me and I can't stop until you eliminate me or I successfully defend. And if you drag this out I'll have zero chance to win so my game will deVolvo to making sure you won't win either. I don't understand the logic. Of course IH thought it was a good move as you made his game so much easier.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:35 AM

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 12:28 AM, said:

@Tatts. Are you going to take Thibah? More importantly are you interested in taking Winnu next round?

.....

What did I do to deserve a double team round 3 elimination? I think I finished 7th last game so it's not like I know what I'm doing. IH won last game and he had a very slow start. Now he has a strong fast start and you are making it even easier for him to score more points.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:39 AM

View PostD, on 23 July 2018 - 01:02 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 23 July 2018 - 12:56 AM, said:

Tapper what can I do to convince you to use Diplomacy as your next action. I desperately need it now or else I'm out of the game round 2.


If Tapper does want to wait one more turn before using DIPLO (not a bad idea considering Khell's planets are all exhausted currently), I can trade you (via Tatts, if he is willing) an "as an action" AC to let you stall 1 turn until after Tapper uses DIPLO.

I'm interested but now I'm not even sure if Gnaw traded me for my commodities. If I were him with what he did probably not so couldn't pay Tatts handling fee let alone you or Morgoth for the cards.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:43 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 23 July 2018 - 07:26 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 23 July 2018 - 12:56 AM, said:

Tapper what can I do to convince you to use Diplomacy as your next action. I desperately need it now or else I'm out of the game round 2.


Twelve just in case you've not realised if you activate winnu with anything other than logistics gnaw gets 5 PDS shots on anything you build or have in the system. Which is really nasty.

5! what! Fucking bullshit flagshio op is this? This is where I do the flip the table if this was a live game.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:47 AM

Actually it's 3 hitting on a 5 my mistake. Still pretty powerful and really tough for you to do much about.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:49 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 09:03 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 23 July 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 23 July 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

If we go all the way back to the start D'rek had plans for Tura Nora first.


Cease concerning yourself with the far side of the stars Hacan.
We have urgent matters to discuss.


Of course, shoot


Our sectors are resource poor and overpopulated. For there to be peace in the galaxy first there must be a reduction in those who hunger for those spare resources.

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I.e. anyway you can park a ship in their home system thereby blockading them?


I literally could only get 1 cruiser there this round and he has a PDS with GLS. I could advance to Thibah with 2 cruisers and a carrier which is what I was planning to do anyway.

Like IH says can you not fire upon any ships built in that system with your PDS from your flagship? It would prevent him from building.

I didn't think you'd move so early to be honest. I was going to prepare to invade next round, because i'd need more infantry for ground battle.

The carrier cruiser and 3 fighters could take out Arinam/Meer, you'd get shots in from your flagship in that battle and you wouldn't have to use GLS. Meaning you can save GLS for when/if he builds.

I can either, move carrier to Thibah with 2 cruisers this round, or build a carrier, loads of infantry this round and use Warfare next round to invade his home system. That'd be 2 carriers 2 cruisers and loads of infantry moving in.

I had no shot this game from the get go. Both my neighbors were secretly plotting to carve me up from the get go.
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 10:58 AM

I agree with everything Twelve said. Everyone get Gnaw and IH!
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:00 AM

IH will you trade me 3 tg for 3 commodities? I'm assuming gnaw never did even though he said he would? Also after that trade how many trade goods do you have left and what can I get for them?
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