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#5401 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 03:15 PM

I'm just waiting on a response from gnaw/nico/anyone else who wants to make a deal then will make a move.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 03:46 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

I'm just waiting on a response from gnaw/nico/anyone else who wants to make a deal then will make a move.



I'll make a deal with you.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:01 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 05 July 2018 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

I'm just waiting on a response from gnaw/nico/anyone else who wants to make a deal then will make a move.



I'll make a deal with you.


Do you have 3TG to trade for my PN?
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:13 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 05 July 2018 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

I'm just waiting on a response from gnaw/nico/anyone else who wants to make a deal then will make a move.



I'll make a deal with you.


Do you have 3TG to trade for my PN?


Nope.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:25 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

So no one interested in any deals?

Gnaw I'll put an offer on the table for this round for your support for the throne. I'll give you 3 trade goods, my racial PN, my ceasefire, I won't attack rex and I won't take imperial. Offer is only in effect now though. Interested?

Nico if gnaw isn't interested in my ceasefire would you be interested in it for 3tg and we maintain the productive peace we currently have? Or my racial PN

Tatts you really like offering out your ceasefire PN which you don't have don't you :D blend still has it I think

Anyone I'll make a trade of my racial PN for 3 tg but I want to do it this round.


Deal
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:42 PM

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

So no one interested in any deals?

Gnaw I'll put an offer on the table for this round for your support for the throne. I'll give you 3 trade goods, my racial PN, my ceasefire, I won't attack rex and I won't take imperial. Offer is only in effect now though. Interested?

Nico if gnaw isn't interested in my ceasefire would you be interested in it for 3tg and we maintain the productive peace we currently have? Or my racial PN

Tatts you really like offering out your ceasefire PN which you don't have don't you :D blend still has it I think

Anyone I'll make a trade of my racial PN for 3 tg but I want to do it this round.


Deal


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:42 PM

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

So no one interested in any deals?

Gnaw I'll put an offer on the table for this round for your support for the throne. I'll give you 3 trade goods, my racial PN, my ceasefire, I won't attack rex and I won't take imperial. Offer is only in effect now though. Interested?

Nico if gnaw isn't interested in my ceasefire would you be interested in it for 3tg and we maintain the productive peace we currently have? Or my racial PN

Tatts you really like offering out your ceasefire PN which you don't have don't you :D blend still has it I think

Anyone I'll make a trade of my racial PN for 3 tg but I want to do it this round.


Deal



Dude, if he's giving you all that, then he's desperate for the VP as he's found a way to win the game with it. He won't need any of that stuff if the game's over next round so he's happy to give it to you. And what use to you is his ceasefire PN if he has your SftT? Obviously he won't attack you if he has that.

I really don't see how it can be in any way a good idea to give one player both the speaker chip AND another VP at this juncture.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

So I think we can safely say with that trade IH is now on 10VP. 1 for the SftT, 2 for the unit tech VP which he's just achieved with the last action, and more than likely a secret objective.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:51 PM

Putting someone on 10VP and giving them first pick of strategy cards. Clap clap clap everybody. Clap clap clap.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 05:00 PM

I think gnaw is gambling I won't be able to withstand all the forces which are bound to hit me next turn and will sneak the win on initiative. I'm gambling that I can... Though the more I look at the map maybe it was a bad gamble.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:34 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 05 July 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

So no one interested in any deals?

Gnaw I'll put an offer on the table for this round for your support for the throne. I'll give you 3 trade goods, my racial PN, my ceasefire, I won't attack rex and I won't take imperial. Offer is only in effect now though. Interested?

Nico if gnaw isn't interested in my ceasefire would you be interested in it for 3tg and we maintain the productive peace we currently have? Or my racial PN

Tatts you really like offering out your ceasefire PN which you don't have don't you :D blend still has it I think

Anyone I'll make a trade of my racial PN for 3 tg but I want to do it this round.


Deal



Dude, if he's giving you all that, then he's desperate for the VP as he's found a way to win the game with it. He won't need any of that stuff if the game's over next round so he's happy to give it to you. And what use to you is his ceasefire PN if he has your SftT? Obviously he won't attack you if he has that.

I really don't see how it can be in any way a good idea to give one player both the speaker chip AND another VP at this juncture.



I'm gambling on something. IH is gambling on something.


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 09:24 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.


No. He can’t.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 09:40 PM

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.


No. He can’t.



Ah very vood point. So its now or never for him.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 09:41 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.


No. He can't.



Ah very vood point. So its now or never for him.


Yep
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:26 PM

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.


No. He can't.



Ah very vood point. So its now or never for him.


Yep


Reads rules on speaker token again. Shit.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:28 PM

Been out all night will update post with details in morning and then next action after morgoth plays.
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Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:02 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 July 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 05 July 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 05 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

IH getting Politics would be worse than Imperial imo especially since he doesn't/cannot take Rex for that VP doesn't Have to anymore. Yet he can give himself Speaker token and Imperial next round if it goes on.


No. He can't.



Ah very vood point. So its now or never for him.


Yep


Reads rules on speaker token again. Shit.


So. You boobooed?
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Posted 06 July 2018 - 08:57 AM

It certainly adds a new tactical dimension to things. I've left provisionals with D'rek, I have family visiting so unsure when I'll get chance to post.
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Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

The dynamics of this game are quite interesting. Being a relatively strong military power for most of the game, and somewhat of a bogeyman for the later parts, being able to take Imperial has been a lost cause for me for quite some time. I recognize that, and understand why, and so I had to shift my focus from Mecatol Rex to someplace else. Sure I could have prevented anyone else from taking it, but that would simply have left me at a disadvantage. Now IH, whom have struggled with a weak position early, but in a relatively peaceful part of the galaxy, stand in a much better position to win. I should have tried to get Gnaw's support for the throne too, but to be honest I just assumed he'd never part with it at this point.
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