[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 28 June 2018 - 02:03 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 27 June 2018 - 09:17 PM, said:

Gnaw, all this talk of taking rex off you but no response from you. I think you have a high chance of winning if you retain rex but I'd be willing to chance it and assume you might lose your homeworld if I had a chance of winning. Would you give me your support for the throne or racial PN in exchange for my ceasefire PN?

Everyone else has said they won't be taking rex so pretty high chance you'd retain it.

I’ve got a friend in the hospital. She not only won’t let me take my phone in to the room with her, she made me promise to leave it at home so I wouldn’t be running off to the bathroom, cafeteria, etc to check it. Hence my absences.

Somebody is going to take it off me. Might as well be you. I’m hoping someone will actually - means Tapper is likely to give me speaker and then maybe it will go another round after next. Then maybe I’ve got a shot.

Hey, I’m happy. First game and I’m in the running for winning instead of last. I’m ecstatic with that result.

In that case what will you give me to take rex now

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 28 June 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:

Tatts, I think you fucked Nico over. You are still in the system he paid you to leave and he has 1 tactical action left (I think). If he doesn't have an action card to use to stall then he can't move to retake the system you had him pay 5 trade goods for.

Pretty shitty neighbor if you ask me.

Yeah Nico has been a bit of a mystery he could have gained a CT last turn but chose not to, thought he would have insisted tatts moved out by now. Pretty devious play by tatts though delaying the move long enough that he meets the letter of the agreement but still retains abyz fria.

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Yeah target gnaw on mansa 3, the tech planet within your range as a stalling move rather than any of the other people you can target...

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 28 June 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:

Tatts, I think you fucked Nico over. You are still in the system he paid you to leave and he has 1 tactical action left (I think). If he doesn't have an action card to use to stall then he can't move to retake the system you had him pay 5 trade goods for.

Pretty shitty neighbor if you ask me.

Well I have not been paying attention to his tactical actions to be honest, and his last post didn't have an update in it.

Nicodimas, on 26 June 2018 - 07:13 AM, said:

Warfare Secondary : Build Cruiser_2
Build two fighters
Build two infantry


Activate delta wormhole with Cruiser + infantry.

If I knew he had 1 move left I would have moved last turn. The reason I didn't move earlier was to keep IH honest. My fleet there is kind of protecting Nico's homeworld as I'd prefer to have him in the game, mainly due to us Supporting each other for the Throne. I have no intention of keeping Abyz and Fria from him, so if he does have an action card/stall tactic I will move out next turn.

Another thing, couldn't he have got a command token last turn as well?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 07:24 AM, said:

twelve, on 28 June 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:

Tatts, I think you fucked Nico over. You are still in the system he paid you to leave and he has 1 tactical action left (I think). If he doesn't have an action card to use to stall then he can't move to retake the system you had him pay 5 trade goods for.

Pretty shitty neighbor if you ask me.

Yeah Nico has been a bit of a mystery he could have gained a CT last turn but chose not to, thought he would have insisted tatts moved out by now. Pretty devious play by tatts though delaying the move long enough that he meets the letter of the agreement but still retains abyz fria.

If I had moved then you could have taken Nico on or planned to early but I think my fleet has kept you honest.

[Morgoth]

Your altruism is truly a sight to behold, tatts!

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 07:32 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Yeah target gnaw on mansa 3, the tech planet within your range as a stalling move rather than any of the other people you can target...

I doubt Tapper could reach it, he'd need silence of space and flank speed surely? Closest route is 3 spaces, and Gnaw has ships in the way.

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 28 June 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Your altruism is truly a sight to behold, tatts!

Lol. I've repeatedly said that I have no intention of taking Nico out, and that if I did I'd exchange support for the throne with you so you wouldn't lose out. I quite like Nico's tax on the galaxy existing as I don't have an established trade partner and relatively shitty commodities.

I can stall far longer than anyone so altruism is a bit hard to buy tatts.

[Imperial Historian]

Twelve tempted to take the research technology action card you have strongly suggested you have. Care to offer me a reason not to take it?

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 28 June 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Your altruism is truly a sight to behold, tatts!

Hey, I'd lose a VP if Nico got eliminated, so purely selfish reasons

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 07:44 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 28 June 2018 - 07:39 AM, said:

Your altruism is truly a sight to behold, tatts!

Lol. I've repeatedly said that I have no intention of taking Nico out, and that if I did I'd exchange support for the throne with you so you wouldn't lose out. I quite like Nico's tax on the galaxy existing as I don't have an established trade partner and relatively shitty commodities.

I can stall far longer than anyone so altruism is a bit hard to buy tatts.

That's true, I love how you have all those action cards, it must feel quite good?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:

Twelve tempted to take the research technology action card you have strongly suggested you have. Care to offer me a reason not to take it?

Ha ha, see this is just pure gold. Yssaril are quite a strong race imo. So much flexibility

[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:

Twelve tempted to take the research technology action card you have strongly suggested you have. Care to offer me a reason not to take it?

I'll give you a couple of trade goods to take it.

[Khellendros]

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 28 June 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Morgoth had three planets you could have targeted as well. That wouldn't have removed his support for the throne and he is your main competition.

Twelve, I am not exactly competing with anyone for the win unless the game lasts three more rounds.
To be a contender, you need to fulfill Secret Objectives and I am not going to fulfill either one of the two I hold, not for a very long time.

Furthermore, if I was looking to harm Morgoth out of competition, this really was not the card to use: out of his Morgoth's five hazardous planets, Urtha, Zohbat and Bereg are already emptied of Infantry.
Meer and Daemon are half a move away from his (stacked) home planet - which is where some or all of that infantry would then end up on. All of these planets are exhausted so I would not harm his production, either.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

If it helps I'm happy to say that I won't take imperial/politics (or whichever other card you desire if you push the speaker token back round). Blend Tatts Nico Gnaw would you join in on this? Think it is in everyone's best interest for morgoth, twelve and khell to be as low a pick as possible in order to stop them winning next turn and giving us all a chance the following turn.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 08:48 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

If it helps I'm happy to say that I won't take imperial/politics (or whichever other card you desire if you push the speaker token back round). Blend Tatts Nico Gnaw would you join in on this? Think it is in everyone's best interest for morgoth, twelve and khell to be as low a pick as possible in order to stop them winning next turn and giving us all a chance the following turn.

Tapper's not really discussed his intentions. It's his choice, and could implement stipulations

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 08:48 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

If it helps I'm happy to say that I won't take imperial/politics (or whichever other card you desire if you push the speaker token back round). Blend Tatts Nico Gnaw would you join in on this? Think it is in everyone's best interest for morgoth, twelve and khell to be as low a pick as possible in order to stop them winning next turn and giving us all a chance the following turn.

Interestingly, I see Morgoth and Gnaw as the only ones who could potentially win next round. Gnaw if he keeps Rex and imperial. After that, IH is best positioned to do well next round, and his intentions are a little more self-serving than he suggests above. The best I can do is reach 10VP next round, and that's IF I spend all my tokens in the spend tokens VP at the start and pass straight away. So yeah. Twelve I really don't see retaking his homeworld AND gaining 3VP all in the same round.

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Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 28 June 2018 - 08:48 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

If it helps I'm happy to say that I won't take imperial/politics (or whichever other card you desire if you push the speaker token back round). Blend Tatts Nico Gnaw would you join in on this? Think it is in everyone's best interest for morgoth, twelve and khell to be as low a pick as possible in order to stop them winning next turn and giving us all a chance the following turn.

Interestingly, I see Morgoth and Gnaw as the only ones who could potentially win next round. Gnaw if he keeps Rex and imperial. After that, IH is best positioned to do well next round, and his intentions are a little more self-serving than he suggests above. The best I can do is reach 10VP next round, and that's IF I spend all my tokens in the spend tokens VP at the start and pass straight away. So yeah. Twelve I really don't see retaking his homeworld AND gaining 3VP all in the same round.

Don't be fooled by IH and Tapper's low VP's. It only take a round with 3 VP's followed by another to win, then it may be an initiative race. Leadership, Diplomacy, Politics, Construction. Top 4 cards at the moment.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 28 June 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Tapper, on 28 June 2018 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sorry Gnaw. This was purely a stalling move to see if someone would take Rex and I can make you Speaker, which would be the preferred option for both of us (and worth that 1 infantry).
I am also pretty sure we then would not let Imperial fall to Morgoth, either.

Great idea, give Morgoth third pick of strategy cards and a guaranteed low initiative choice. We should probably just end the game straight after you do that.

Because of course, Captain Fatalism.

I hear a lot of what I should do and why. I hear very little how breaking a stable, game-long pact with both my neighbours is going to benefit me.
My extremely slim chances of victory only exist if I do score 3+ points. To do so, I need scoring opportunities - not just for public objectives, but also for secret ones - and those are very much fueled by strategy selection.