[twelve]

Yeah as of right now all my vote are for the economic initiative directive. I thought you did a vote count earlier. Between yours, gnaws and Tappers committed votes and the fact that both Khell, and I are committed to the other I think you have enough to pass it. I'll double check the math to be sure though

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:22 PM, said:

Twelve. One vote.


Think of how disappointed you will be if Tatts’ ships don’t go BOOM!

I'm going to do a vote check. If I think it's needed I'll throw in a few.

[Blend]

Yeah, I think if both you and Khell are putting your votes in Economic Initiative, then it shouldn't be a problem either way. So above deal is what I offer. Agreed?

Twelve, I will show you another Action Card you may find more useful than the one I showed you. Let me know which of the two you would like.

[twelve]

Blend, on 31 May 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

Alright, alright..

So, Twelve:

I trade an Action Card to you in exchange for the one you've shown me and will give you the 2TGs from Production Biomes next round. Agreed?

Gnaw:

I give you my Trade Agreement PN, a promise of non-agression for one round, and promise to refresh my commodities in exchange for the Naalu token PN which I promise to use in the upcoming round. Agreed?

Agreed.

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 31 May 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

Alright, alright..

So, Twelve:

I trade an Action Card to you in exchange for the one you've shown me and will give you the 2TGs from Production Biomes next round. Agreed?

Gnaw:

I give you my Trade Agreement PN, a promise of non-agression for one round, and promise to refresh my commodities in exchange for the Naalu token PN which I promise to use in the upcoming round. Agreed?

Agreed

[Gnaw]

Why are we trusting Khell to do anything at this point?

Anything that helps us is counterproductive to his goals, no?

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

Why are we trusting Khell to do anything at this point?

Anything that helps us is counterproductive to his goals, no?

True, but for it to be an issue, Twelve would have to vote AGAINST the Wormhole objective alongside Khell, if I did the maths right, and I trust that Twelve will do as he has said, he has yet to betray our alliance.

[Blend]

Twelve - lemme know which action card you want of the two I've shown you and I'll send D'rek a PN to confirm our trade.

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 31 May 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

Why are we trusting Khell to do anything at this point?

Anything that helps us is counterproductive to his goals, no?

True, but for it to be an issue, Twelve would have to vote AGAINST the Wormhole objective alongside Khell, if I did the maths right, and I trust that Twelve will do as he has said, he has yet to betray our alliance.

Ah. Okey. I thought we were looking at trusting him to throw votes at the TG agenda. If he’s AGAINST ours then we know he can’t fuck it up for us except by accident. Oh shit. It’s Khell. He’s really good at fucking things up by accident!

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:34 PM, said:

Blend, on 31 May 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

Why are we trusting Khell to do anything at this point?

Anything that helps us is counterproductive to his goals, no?

True, but for it to be an issue, Twelve would have to vote AGAINST the Wormhole objective alongside Khell, if I did the maths right, and I trust that Twelve will do as he has said, he has yet to betray our alliance.

Ah. Okey. I thought we were looking at trusting him to throw votes at the TG agenda. If he’s AGAINST ours then we know he can’t fuck it up for us except by accident. Oh shit. It’s Khell. He’s really good at fucking things up by accident!

Yes, well, there's always a chance that someone's gonna fuck everything up - it's happened to me like three times so far this game - but I think that without support from pretty much everyone that's not you, I, or Tapper that can vote, he can't fuck over the Wormhole vote at this point (unless there's an action card we haven't seen out there that can do something we haven't seen yet)

[twelve]

Blend 6 total 5 for wormhole
Khell 12 total 0 for/against wormhole
Morgoth 11 can't vote
IH 11 not sure where committed
Tapper 12 total 11 for wormhole
Tattersail 7 would like it to fail
Twelve 17 total 0 for/against wormhole
Gnaw 11 total 10? For wormhole
Nico 3 total not sure where committed.

So by my count we have 26 committed to passing the wormhole directive. If Tatts, IH and Nico put all their votes to against, which will cost them a fleet token which Nico can't afford to do and I'm pretty sure IH doesn't want either, that would be 20 against.

Unless I'm way off on my assumptions I think you guys are winning this in a landslide already without me chipping in.

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 31 May 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

Why are we trusting Khell to do anything at this point?

Anything that helps us is counterproductive to his goals, no?

Because if he votes against he is down to just 1 fleet token. If he wants to win he can't afford to have that small of a fleet. His command ship is good but not that good. And didn't someone buy his votes? If they did it's binding.

[Blend]

Yeah, plus IH can't vote on the Wormhole agenda cause he placed the Rider on it, so it's very unlikely that anyone can screw the vote. So no need to chip in Twelve, sorry, wasn't mathing properly earlier.

[twelve]

Blend. I will accept the new card. Thanks.

[twelve]

Blend, on 31 May 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:

Yeah, plus IH can't vote on the Wormhole agenda cause he placed the Rider on it, so it's very unlikely that anyone can screw the vote. So no need to chip in Twelve, sorry, wasn't mathing properly earlier.

Yup forgot about this. You guys have this locked up.

[Blend]

Alright, I've PM'd D'rek about both trades.

Thanks guys, nice doing business with you!

[twelve]

My pleasure and good luck. I hope it helps.

[Blend]

twelve, on 31 May 2018 - 07:54 PM, said:

My pleasure and good luck. I hope it helps.

I guess we shall see how things go - hopefully someone doesn't decide to sabotage me, plus holding what I'm hoping to take after I take it is also a concern of mine.

[Blend]

Twelve - just so it's clear, you won't get the TGs from Production Biomes until I actually activate it as a Strategic Action during the upcoming round.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 31 May 2018 - 07:50 PM, said:

Trade blend action card for action card and production biomes 2 trade goods

This is not a very clear way of writing it (reads like it could be an AC, production biomes, and 2 additional trade goods), and the production biomes doesn't happen until a later phase so it is non-binding and misleading to write it here.


I'll update the PM AC lists in a bit.