[D'rek]

ItGnaws shows Blend a PN

Tatts shows Blend a PN

[Blend]

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

Tapper, on 25 April 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Tatts, Gnaw, is there a chance we can make a combined offer to Blend to get the Speaker token to Tatts? My main wish is an early enough Strategy selection to have options. I am sure that also goes for you guys. As such, why not pool resources in a communal offer to Blend?

It will eliminate competition amongst each other in which each new 'best' bid is just an invitation by him for a new one.

Like what do you have in mind?

Right now, an offer equivalent to what Khell offered in round 1, or so. Ideally, we already break it down in TG and divide the cost 3/2/1 in order Tatts-ItGnaws-me.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

If I give you 4TGs, then take your 4 commodities, that gives me 4TGs. So I'd be paying you to take the things I paid you back. It all balances out to a zero return for me.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

If I give you 4TGs, then take your 4 commodities, that gives me 4TGs. So I'd be paying you to take the things I paid you back. It all balances out to a zero return for me.

you'd be swapping commodities for TG's and still have 6 commodities left to trade with wouldn't you? The point would be that I wouldn't be able to trade commodities with anyone else.

[Tattersail_]

If you think its a bad idea, I was going for a fair trade, then that's up to you. I wasn't getting one up on you in the deal.

[Tattersail_]

Anyway regardless of the speaker token, are you able to trade 1:1 on the first go round?

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

If I give you 4TGs, then take your 4 commodities, that gives me 4TGs. So I'd be paying you to take the things I paid you back. It all balances out to a zero return for me.

you'd be swapping commodities for TG's and still have 6 commodities left to trade with wouldn't you? The point would be that I wouldn't be able to trade commodities with anyone else.

When I use that PN, I get TGs for stealing your commodities. You're literally asking me to give you 4TGs so I can take 4TGs from you.

I'd be willing to give you the speaker chip in exchange for your PN, and only letting Khell, Twelve, and one other person of your choice refresh their Commodities for free.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:

Anyway regardless of the speaker token, are you able to trade 1:1 on the first go round?

I've currently got a tentative agreement for a 2:2 with ItWasGnaw and a 2:2 with IH.

I'm not sure if Twelve needs to do any swaps with me, but I'd agree to a 1:1 as long as Twelve doesn't need 2.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

If I give you 4TGs, then take your 4 commodities, that gives me 4TGs. So I'd be paying you to take the things I paid you back. It all balances out to a zero return for me.

you'd be swapping commodities for TG's and still have 6 commodities left to trade with wouldn't you? The point would be that I wouldn't be able to trade commodities with anyone else.

When I use that PN, I get TGs for stealing your commodities. You're literally asking me to give you 4TGs so I can take 4TGs from you.

I'd be willing to give you the speaker chip in exchange for your PN, and only letting Khell, Twelve, and one other person of your choice refresh their Commodities for free.

You were willing to do it without the PN before. The reason I threw the PN in is so that I can literally swap 4:4 with you. You wouldn't be put out and neither would I.

Otherwise I just get 4 TG's from the commodities by exchanging with neighbours and you or Twelve anyway.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:

Anyway regardless of the speaker token, are you able to trade 1:1 on the first go round?

I've currently got a tentative agreement for a 2:2 with ItWasGnaw and a 2:2 with IH.

I'm not sure if Twelve needs to do any swaps with me, but I'd agree to a 1:1 as long as Twelve doesn't need 2.

This is before I refresh and use trade strategy card, so similar with you, do you have any spare? Or would you swap a TG for a commodity off me?

[twelve]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:

Anyway regardless of the speaker token, are you able to trade 1:1 on the first go round?

I've currently got a tentative agreement for a 2:2 with ItWasGnaw and a 2:2 with IH.

I'm not sure if Twelve needs to do any swaps with me, but I'd agree to a 1:1 as long as Twelve doesn't need 2.

Im not sure yet. Im thinking of buying one of Khells pns so I might be light on commodities to trade.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Alright, Tatts - I don't see any point in the adding the PN and TG trade to our agreement - it's just superfluous.


At the moment, my best offer comes from ItWasGnaw - the speaker chip is yours for that PN, so long as I don't get a better offer!

because you'd end up with 10 commodities/trade goods over 6? Fair enough, I don't mind going last next turn.

If I give you 4TGs, then take your 4 commodities, that gives me 4TGs. So I'd be paying you to take the things I paid you back. It all balances out to a zero return for me.

you'd be swapping commodities for TG's and still have 6 commodities left to trade with wouldn't you? The point would be that I wouldn't be able to trade commodities with anyone else.

When I use that PN, I get TGs for stealing your commodities. You're literally asking me to give you 4TGs so I can take 4TGs from you.

I'd be willing to give you the speaker chip in exchange for your PN, and only letting Khell, Twelve, and one other person of your choice refresh their Commodities for free.

You were willing to do it without the PN before. The reason I threw the PN in is so that I can literally swap 4:4 with you. You wouldn't be put out and neither would I.

Otherwise I just get 4 TG's from the commodities by exchanging with neighbours and you or Twelve anyway.

Yeah, so it doesn't give me anything extra. I can just trade commodities with you regardless - why would I give up TGs just to get them back whenever you refresh your commodities? Not to mention, I wouldn't have enough TGs to give you until you use the Trade primary so that I can use the secondary and then do commodities swaps. So I wouldn't even be able to get them back this round, and there's no guarantee you'd be refreshing commodities next round, particularly if someone makes you pay for it. So that would put me down 4 TGs this round for 4TGs down the road. Not interested.

As it stands, I like ItWasGnaw's PN better than the original offer I had made you where I'd give you the speaker chip in order for you to only allow Khell and Twelve the free refresh.

So I've modified my request. I'm now willing to give you the speaker chip instead of ItWasGnaw IF you give me that PN AND you only let Khell and Twelve the free refresh. I tossed in a third person of your choice so that it balances out the request a little bit.

Hey, it's up to you! Either get to choose your strategy card first, or get to choose it last. As I said, I'm not particularly invested in what strategy card I end up with, so I don't care which of your hands it ends up in!

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2018 - 03:47 PM, said:

Anyway regardless of the speaker token, are you able to trade 1:1 on the first go round?

I've currently got a tentative agreement for a 2:2 with ItWasGnaw and a 2:2 with IH.

I'm not sure if Twelve needs to do any swaps with me, but I'd agree to a 1:1 as long as Twelve doesn't need 2.

This is before I refresh and use trade strategy card, so similar with you, do you have any spare? Or would you swap a TG for a commodity off me?

I have 1 TG left over from the previous round - I wouldn't have any issues with swapping it with your commodity if you want.

[Tapper]

Hey ItGnaws, just to avoid accidents: Am I correct in assuming you are claiming the Dal Bootha system?

[Khellendros]

What is that token that Morgoth and Tapper have on Daemon and...that planet in Tapper's systems?

[Blend]

Khellendros, on 25 April 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

What is that token that Morgoth and Tapper have on Daemon and...that planet in Tapper's systems?

They are just there to denote that they own those planets, even if they don't have any infantry on them. There's one on one of the planets in my home system as well, for example.

This post has been edited by Blend: 25 April 2018 - 06:07 PM

[D'rek]

Blend, on 25 April 2018 - 06:06 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 25 April 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

What is that token that Morgoth and Tapper have on Daemon and...that planet in Tapper's systems?

They are just there to denote that they own those planets, even if they don't have any infantry on them. There's one on one of the planets in my home system as well, for example.

^^that

There are various game effects that allow a player to take over a planet without actually landing ground forces on it, in which case you place a control token (I call 'em flags) on the planet. You can also use these tokens to indicate you control the planet if you move all your ground forces off of it.

A planet is controlled by a player if they have either a control token or any units on the planet - as long as either of these is on the planet they control it, can exhaust it for resources/influence/tech specialty, etc. Otherwise it is not controlled and cannot be used by any player until someone takes it over.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 25 April 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

What is that token that Morgoth and Tapper have on Daemon and...that planet in Tapper's systems?

Anyway, it's your move, Khell.