[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

So you're researching, Assault cannons, X89 and LWD? Hmm

Whoever grabs tech next round would do to keep it until very late in the round.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

You know it takes an action right? So you would have to activate the system, use x89 as an action and then activate the system again in order to take the planet (and it only affects one planet). I was originally thinking it was amazing, but on reflection it's only good.

Yeah, understanding how it works made it a much more disappointing tech to me. I didn't want to risk researching, the benefits did not outweigh the risks to me.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

You know it takes an action right? So you would have to activate the system, use x89 as an action and then activate the system again in order to take the planet (and it only affects one planet). I was originally thinking it was amazing, but on reflection it's only good.

That'd mean he could only take one planet back, and without space docks he would have to wait another round before using it again. As infantry are vastly important. Morgoth could basically move all of his ships and leave the infantry there. It'd be hard for anyone to take those planets.

[D'rek]

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

You know it takes an action right? So you would have to activate the system, use x89 as an action and then activate the system again in order to take the planet (and it only affects one planet). I was originally thinking it was amazing, but on reflection it's only good.

Yeah, understanding how it works made it a much more disappointing tech to me. I didn't want to risk researching, the benefits did not outweigh the risks to me.

With Fleet Logistics it's a lot more fun, though.

[Blend]

D, on 26 June 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

You know it takes an action right? So you would have to activate the system, use x89 as an action and then activate the system again in order to take the planet (and it only affects one planet). I was originally thinking it was amazing, but on reflection it's only good.

Yeah, understanding how it works made it a much more disappointing tech to me. I didn't want to risk researching, the benefits did not outweigh the risks to me.

With Fleet Logistics it's a lot more fun, though.

Yes and no.

I'd still need to get ships onto a system, then somehow remove the token (which, granted, would work with Logistics if I had it at the right time), THEN bomb it, then invade it again. It's still taking me two turns to get it done.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 26 June 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 26 June 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've just realised quite how much firepower is in zohbat now. Now that is a fleet. Surprised there aren't more infantry though, morgoth could just not send his infantry swarms into space and quite happily hold those planets for as long as he wants.

It's a little thing we call X-89. I think that will do the trick.

You know it takes an action right? So you would have to activate the system, use x89 as an action and then activate the system again in order to take the planet (and it only affects one planet). I was originally thinking it was amazing, but on reflection it's only good.

Yeah, understanding how it works made it a much more disappointing tech to me. I didn't want to risk researching, the benefits did not outweigh the risks to me.

With Fleet Logistics it's a lot more fun, though.

True but you still can't take the planet, even if all the infantry are dead.

[D'rek]

Still not perfect... just not as terirble. More fun.

[Tattersail_]

Why Moll Primus Blend? Just curious.

Silvano would've made a good choice for you or Tapper as it's close and a tech planet to boot. Poor Nico.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 26 June 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Why Moll Primus Blend? Just curious.

Silvano would've made a good choice for you or Tapper as it's close and a tech planet to boot. Poor Nico.

I just plain don't like Nico. He pillaged way too much from me.

Realistically, I'm just hoping it keeps IH's eyes planted on that end of the galaxy instead of at my soft underbelly.

[twelve]

I'd say fuck you Morgoth but better you use it on Zohbat than on either Jol or Nar.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 26 June 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

I'd say fuck you Morgoth but better you use it on Zohbat than on either Jol or Nar.

What do you mean brother?

[twelve]

Parley.

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 June 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Why Moll Primus Blend? Just curious.

Silvano would've made a good choice for you or Tapper as it's close and a tech planet to boot. Poor Nico.

I just plain don't like Nico. He pillaged way too much from me.

Realistically, I'm just hoping it keeps IH's eyes planted on that end of the galaxy instead of at my soft underbelly.

Thanks Blend was wondering why you did that but I have no designs on your soft underbelly, if I did I'd have moved against you last turn.

[Nicodimas]

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 June 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Why Moll Primus Blend? Just curious.

Silvano would've made a good choice for you or Tapper as it's close and a tech planet to boot. Poor Nico.

I just plain don't like Nico. He pillaged way too much from me.

Realistically, I'm just hoping it keeps IH's eyes planted on that end of the galaxy instead of at my soft underbelly.

Lol what a waste of such a good action card too!

[Blend]

Nicodimas, on 26 June 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 June 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 June 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Why Moll Primus Blend? Just curious.

Silvano would've made a good choice for you or Tapper as it's close and a tech planet to boot. Poor Nico.

I just plain don't like Nico. He pillaged way too much from me.

Realistically, I'm just hoping it keeps IH's eyes planted on that end of the galaxy instead of at my soft underbelly.

Lol what a waste of such a good action card too!

It's completely useless to me at this point. The only use I *COULD* have for it is to make one of IH's system's a softer target for me, but IH has too much of a retaliatory fleet for me to realistically do anything useful to him. So instead I fuck with other people in hopes of keeping attention away from my end of the galaxy and we'll see how things go from there. I have no illusions about winning, it's not at all likely to be possible for me to do so, so at this point it's a matter of causing a bit of havoc while I'm still in it!

[Blend]

It has been interesting playing this game. I'd really like to try it with the regular maximum of 6 players. If we had 6 players, we'd have more space to stretch out and move before having to come into conflict with others. At this point in the game, it's unrealistic for anyone to be able to achieve many of the "own X amount of planets with X requisite" objectives, because it's difficult to take systems, but even more difficult with the way action economy is built to be able to then hold the planets once you've taken them.

That's been MY major downfall, I think. Hacan are just not militarily minded, and, frankly, even though I've been able to finagle some pretty good deals, my corner of the galaxy is very resource/influence poor, so I haven't really been able to ever get an upper hand in anything. If it hadn't been for Twelve and my alliance, I wouldn't have held any real power at any point in this game. I'm able to put together fleets that allow me to take systems, but I can never hold them because someone else has always got a fleet somewhere else nearby to just take it back with. Heck, if it weren't for his ExoTriremes, Tapper would have been a lot less likely to keep Lodor last round.

I hope that next game we play, we can make it just a 6 player game, maybe two of them going at once or something, or two 4-5 player games. I'd like to give this a shot with less players so that everyone can experience the full spectrum of abilities the way they're meant to be balance-wise. I think if we had an extra ring of hexes, THAT would be more appropriate for an 8-9 player game.

[Gnaw]

A next game requires someone to mod. And/or we come up with a way for the mod to play.
Open action cards would help. List them under technology in the status updates.

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 26 June 2018 - 05:00 PM, said:

A next game requires someone to mod. And/or we come up with a way for the mod to play.
Open action cards would help. List them under technology in the status updates.

True that - I'll certainly be looking at all of this afterwards to see what I'd need to be able to do it. I'd certainly like to play, but even modding would be fun, I think! Even better if we can figure out a way for the mod to play.

[Khellendros]

@ Gnaw:

Did you gain 4 or 5 CTs? Because you said 4 but then apparently added five to your pool.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 26 June 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

@ Gnaw:

Did you gain 4 or 5 CTs? Because you said 4 but then apparently added five to your pool.

Based on the planets exhausted 5 but the final numbers don't add up. I think he should be on 2/4/2 but he's on 1/4/0 so I have no idea.