[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 07 June 2018 - 07:16 AM, said:

Nicodimas, on 07 June 2018 - 02:01 AM, said:

Blend, on 07 June 2018 - 01:46 AM, said:

And I forgot that Nico could pillage on every transaction. Shoulda made you all give me TGs to cover the pillages!

17TGs! Nico's fucking rolling in dough. "Waaaah, I've got no game left."

Hey ! It’s TI

Emotions sometimes get drawn out. Actually I can say without a doubt TI is the only game that gets me quite this pissed when fuck something up.

I’m like the zen level type board gaming...

( But that means it’s a good game )

Are you going to accept IH's offer or not?

Too late for that now, given the pillages already happened. They could negotiate a new deal for IH's next turn, though.

[Morgoth]

Khellendros, on 07 June 2018 - 12:39 PM, said:

I picked Sol because I thought they would be the simplest, most basic race to play in a first game. I've been pleasantly surprised to find that they're really fun to be as well! The starting tech and racial traits, while not flashy in any way, are all fundamentally really useful, and the unit upgrades and flagship are pleasingly powerful.

It's also works very well thematically I think. I think all the races are better in TI4 in that regard (compared to 3rd), but I do especially like the hyper-breeding Solarians

[Tattersail_]

Khell's early game strategy was also a factor in his good game position, it'll be harder for other people to hold Mec Rex coming in to late game as people are going to have X89 and War suns soon, which help a lot with population.

[Khellendros]

D, on 07 June 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 07 June 2018 - 07:16 AM, said:

Nicodimas, on 07 June 2018 - 02:01 AM, said:

Blend, on 07 June 2018 - 01:46 AM, said:

And I forgot that Nico could pillage on every transaction. Shoulda made you all give me TGs to cover the pillages!

17TGs! Nico's fucking rolling in dough. "Waaaah, I've got no game left."

Hey ! It’s TI

Emotions sometimes get drawn out. Actually I can say without a doubt TI is the only game that gets me quite this pissed when fuck something up.

I’m like the zen level type board gaming...

( But that means it’s a good game )

Are you going to accept IH's offer or not?

Too late for that now, given the pillages already happened. They could negotiate a new deal for IH's next turn, though.

Ah, true. I just wanted it clarified so I know whether I can refresh next turn or not, but right now I guess the answer is no.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 07 June 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

Just so you know Twelve, if you had sabotaged that deal between me and Blend, then secondary of Logistics puts my dreads in Herrah, I move all ships in. I knew I needed a good nights sleep before making my move. I'm going to honour our deal though.

Thank you for letting me leave Tatts. But just fyi if I had stopped the trade I wasn't going to use logistics that last action.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 07 June 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

Blend, on 07 June 2018 - 01:46 AM, said:

And I forgot that Nico could pillage on every transaction. Shoulda made you all give me TGs to cover the pillages!

17TGs! Nico's fucking rolling in dough. "Waaaah, I've got no game left."

Yeah surprised twelve hasn't stopped Nico building by dropping a ship in his home system... Then noticed nico had only 2 tokens in fleet. If he had more he'd have been able to build his flagship and a couple of dreads which I think would have torn twelves fleet apart, hell his flagship and one dread would stand a chance at doing that.

Plus he'd have 3 more than and 2 commodities if he'd accepted my deal!

I was planning on doing that this round but Tatts decided to get all big and bad and kick me out.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 07 June 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 June 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

Just so you know Twelve, if you had sabotaged that deal between me and Blend, then secondary of Logistics puts my dreads in Herrah, I move all ships in. I knew I needed a good nights sleep before making my move. I'm going to honour our deal though.

Thank you for letting me leave Tatts. But just fyi if I had stopped the trade I wasn't going to use logistics that last action.

It was Blends turn, I am after Blend, logistics was already played. It's okay anyway, I'm honourable.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 07 June 2018 - 01:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 June 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

Blend, on 07 June 2018 - 01:46 AM, said:

And I forgot that Nico could pillage on every transaction. Shoulda made you all give me TGs to cover the pillages!

17TGs! Nico's fucking rolling in dough. "Waaaah, I've got no game left."

Yeah surprised twelve hasn't stopped Nico building by dropping a ship in his home system... Then noticed nico had only 2 tokens in fleet. If he had more he'd have been able to build his flagship and a couple of dreads which I think would have torn twelves fleet apart, hell his flagship and one dread would stand a chance at doing that.

Plus he'd have 3 more than and 2 commodities if he'd accepted my deal!

I was planning on doing that this round but Tatts decided to get all big and bad and kick me out.

Better to have Nico in the game than out

[twelve]

Morgoth, on 07 June 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

Should have protected himself better though. That's the thing with going hard on tech early, it's hard to keep up with fleet construction at the same time. Which is why I railed at Khell and Blend for letting twelve do just that the first couple of rounds.

Lot of good it's done me. Getting my but kicked a lot in combat recently.

[Khellendros]

Guys, I'd appreciate it if someone double-checks this for me as maths is really not my strong suit, but:

I've been looking through everyone's moves and command token usage, and there appear to be discrepancies (some possibly serious) between the number of command tokens you're showing and the amount of moves being made. A lot of this appears to come from people activating the Leadership secondary, adding those tokens to their total, and then making a move BUT NOT subtracting the token just used from their total.

The people who might be affected (or I'm very wrong and discount this entire post) are: Gnaw, Nico, IH, Blend, Tatts. Twelve possibly also if his sabotaged action means he has to still discount a strategic token for attempting that component action.

The worst is possibly Blend, who might be on -1 strategic tokens.

This is what I think everyone should be on currently, BUT it is difficult to keep track because quite a few are not going back to clean up their posts after they do a 'quick post':

Tatts: 1, 6, 0
Gnaw: 2, 3, 3
Tapper: 3, 5, 2
Morgoth: 1, 5, 4
Khell: 2, 2, 5
Twelve: 4, 7, 2 or 3 (depending on whether that sabotaged action counts as a used token)
Blend: 1, 3, -1
IH: 2, 4, 2
Nico: 2, 2, 1

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 07 June 2018 - 03:24 PM

[Blend]

Pretty confident mine are correct - are you remembering that I don't have to pay to use the Trade secondary?

[Tattersail_]

I have only used Trade which was free, Warfare and Imperial, so mine is right. I had the leadership strategy card and didn't play the secondary.

[Khellendros]

Blend, on 07 June 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Pretty confident mine are correct - are you remembering that I don't have to pay to use the Trade secondary?

I'm not counting it, and actually, if Production Biomes is a component action, you might be on -2.


You started off with 1, 3, 2; You then did an AC component action and a tactical action, 0, 3, 1; you then took 2CTs with Leadership, 1, 3, 2; and did an AC component action, 1, 3, 1 AND activated production biomes (1, 3, 0?); you then did imperial secondary and another AC component action, 1, 3, -2.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 07 June 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

I have only used Trade which was free, Warfare and Imperial, so mine is right. I had the leadership strategy card and didn't play the secondary.

You started with 2, 5, 1; you added 3 with Leadership, 2, 6, 3; you tried to move to Gnaw, 1, 6, 3; you used warfare, imperial, and an AC component action, 1, 6, 0.

[twelve]

Khell, I gained 1 tactical back for using logistics. And I'm at 3 strategic as I haven't spent any yet this round.

[twelve]

Action cards don't take CT to use unless specified.

[Tattersail_]

You do not have to pay a token to use Leadership secondary...

[Imperial Historian]

Khell I think you are assuming action cards take a command token? The vast majority don't. My mageon implants also don't. It depends on the card and component action.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 07 June 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 07 June 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

I have only used Trade which was free, Warfare and Imperial, so mine is right. I had the leadership strategy card and didn't play the secondary.

You started with 2, 5, 1; you added 3 with Leadership, 2, 6, 3; you tried to move to Gnaw, 1, 6, 3; you used warfare, imperial, and an AC component action, 1, 6, 0.

Component action cards do not require command tokens

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 07 June 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

Khell I think you are assuming action cards take a command token? The vast majority don't. My mageon implants also don't. It depends on the card and component action.

I thought that anything that said, 'Play as an Action' counted for a token? (as in, you play it on its own, not as part of a tactical action or something else).

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 07 June 2018 - 03:38 PM